No eating Fruit to help lose those pounds!!!

DianaPowerUp

Hogwash. Eat a balanced diet. 3500 calories = 1 pound no matter how you cut it. Eat 3500 calories less than you burn in a given time period and you will lose a pound.

Miracle soup Diet. Low Carb. High Fiber. No dairy. You can go on line pick out any theory and find just as many pro sites as con sites.

Your best bet is a balanced diet while practicing portion control.

Yes and no. Sure, if you want to just lose lbs, you could eat twinkies and drink soda all day, and as long as you eat 3500 cal less than you burn, you WILL lose weight. However, not all calories are nutritionally equal. You might be thin at the end of the day, but you'll be "skinny fat", and very unhealthy, weak, lack energy, etc etc.

The point the OP is making is that ONE way to really tweak your diet, and to aid in weight loss, is to watch your fruit intake. Fruit is wonderful - full of fiber, nutrients....and sugar. And while it's "fructose" and not "sucrose", your body still sees it as sugar, and reacts accordingly. So....point being, everything in moderation (like you mentioned!), esp. the sweet stuff, EVEN fruit.

fteale

I never even reach half my allocated carb intake, so I am not going to worry about a few apples. I think if anyone is wondering about the nutritional benefit of FRUIT they have really taken the obsession too far.

Did you know, humans, guinea pigs and fruit bats are the only animals that don't produce our own vitamin C - and guinea pigs and fruit bats are fruitarians, which has been taken as evidence that we are in fact supposed to be eating mostly fruit. Certainly not cutting it out.

And peppers? bleurgh. Not while I have taste buds.

lcoulter23

the only sugars I eat come from fruits and HEALTHY cereals, like cheerios. I occasionally drink 4 oz of no sugar added Welch's 100 % Concord Grape Juice. No matter what I eat my body produces too much insulin. I am insulin resistant so my insulin gets stored as fat and my body makes more. I take medicine to control it, but it still happens. I cut out all junk food. I eat a lot of strawberries and grapes and blueberries and raspberries and when they are in season I like fresh Gala apples and apple cider.

sceck

Not a big fruit eater here...but have been eating the berries for breakfast on my yogurt (blueberries, raspberries, blackberries). Love fresh veggies! And have introduced beans lately as complex carbs. Seems to be working for me. Still wish they had the Glycemic Index on the site. Some of the fruits are high.

mariapuhl

I hate fruit.... never eat it.... the only one I like I can no longer eat (long story... I throw up now if I try to eat it).... so I like this post....

But, I know many people rely on fruit as their "sweet" craving (luckily, I don't have those, probably why I don't like fruit). So I think cutting it out entirely for most people would not only be impossible, but bad since they'd probably just replace those sweet cravings with other things, which are probably worse for them.

iRun4wine

I think this is a classic case of anyone can find a person, article, "study" etc. that can justify or condemn just about everything if they look hard enough...

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Noz7

There is fruit and then there is fruit.
The first thing is that fruit has fructose which is not metabolised the same way as glucose (google it, its super interesting)... fructose is more like ethanol and goes to fat easier (balanced by fibre tho')
The second is that berries don't usually have as much fructose but rather a healthier sugar which is much lower GI. I have berries in my breakfast and are reputed to be hormone balancing.
Personally, I see the strong benefit in eating say more pumpkin than watermelon... just for the sake of satiety - which calories would you rather afford? Diabetics avoid watermelon and say 'I can't eat that anymore'... because of the GI
But having said some stuff against fruit; a lovely peach, mint, cos, oil and lemon is a relatively low calorie snack if you go easy on the oil... a big treat with bursts of sweetness that go on and on because the lettuce etc stretches it so you don't scoff the lot straight away!

autumn13

I just have to say I don't think soooooo.....I eat so clean I will not ever give up fruit!!!!!!!

123nikki123

I don't think you need to give up fruit...that sounds CRAZY! But, you could eat fruit that is lower on the glycemic index such as apples and grapefruit

lodro

I can see how this would work when you are trying to rush losing weight. But lots of good things come from fruit and for most people that have sugar cravings, fruit is a fantastic way to get the right kind of sugars in your body. You body is meant to make insulin for when you get too high, but I'd recommend cutting sugar intake from other sources. Fruit has the good sugar!

fruit sugars are sugars, as far as your body is concerned. the insulin response will not be that different either. the guy said: vegetables instead of fruits. it's about the sugar/carbohydrate content. it's unprecedented in human history, having so much fruit around, all year. in my climate, seasonally, i can have berries in summer, tree fruits like apples and pears in autumn, and that's it. perhaps the rare orange in winter, and one banana every year, not two a day! that's a "normal" pattern of fruit consumption. fruit is rare, vegetables are far more common and should be far more common in anyone's diet, I think.

skitchlu

bump!

YeaILift

Hiya people,

Here is a tip from my nutritionist:

Don't eat fruit! I thought he was just being weird and stupid, however he is making sense and I have seen the proof. I have lost a significant amount of weight on top of what I was previously, because of this. I would estimate an extra pound a week. It is hard to say for definite, but I would be confident it's a pound or damn close to it.

The logic is that fruit contains a lot of vitamins, minerals and sugar. This sugar makes the body produce insulin. However if you’re eating vegetables instead you are still getting the vitamins (things like peppers which have far more Vit-C than oranges) but without the sugars.

This has seriously helped me keep way below my carb intake for the day as well as hit all my vitamins and minerals including proteins etc etc.

Hope this helps people as much as it has me.


Michael

Quite simply, your nutritionist is spouting off out dated information. Total calories and macros play a much larger factor in weight loss that sugars, GI, GL, Nutrional Timing, etc. As long as you are hitting your macros and calories, there is no scientific reason to eliminate fruit from your diet. (Especially when you can plan your total calories and macros in advanced on this website.)

wriglucy

Quick comment..... nutritionists do not need degrees.
And since when does a personal trainer have degrees in nutrition? I know some may, but I'm pretty positive it's not a requirement.

Just my thought. I personally wouldn't listen to anyone until I knew their credentials.

fteale

the only sugars I eat come from fruits and HEALTHY cereals, like cheerios. I occasionally drink 4 oz of no sugar added Welch's 100 % Concord Grape Juice. No matter what I eat my body produces too much insulin. I am insulin resistant so my insulin gets stored as fat and my body makes more. I take medicine to control it, but it still happens. I cut out all junk food. I eat a lot of strawberries and grapes and blueberries and raspberries and when they are in season I like fresh Gala apples and apple cider.

Well done for eating fruit, but cheerios aren't healthy at all. Try to aim for cereals with less that 15g of sugar per 100g. Cheerios are very high in sugar. Sorry!

joaniegray

I have berries every other day with my natural yogurt and honey, and I put fresh squeezed lemon or lime juice in my homemade salad dressing and sometimes lime or lemon in my water. I agree, it does seem to help with weight loss to avoid fruit.
At the same time, an apple a day is not a bad thing either. I think moderation is the key and fitting it into your calories per day. Definitely doing without fruit jump starts a diet but I would not do it forever, as they are good for you.

Good post tho, interesting ideas.

ohohraptor

I am not sure I can go without fruit. I have problems getting my veggies in. But I find this very interesting...

Me too. I could eat fruit all day.

jrt9999

I eat lot's of fruit and carbs... But then again I work out hard and starting to build some serious muscle. Need to keep the machine fueled. Losing weight also.

writtenINthestars

Quick comment..... nutritionists do not need degrees.
And since when does a personal trainer have degrees in nutrition? I know some may, but I'm pretty positive it's not a requirement.

Just my thought. I personally wouldn't listen to anyone until I knew their credentials.

Being a PT does not automatically mean you have a degree in nutrition-you are correct. It is NOT a requirement. I went to a PT center a few weeks back and they had a nutritionist on deck, but the PT's were simply PT's.

RoadDog

I think this is a classic case of anyone can find a person, article, "study" etc. that can justify or condemn just about everything if they look hard enough...

You don't even have to look that hard. Pick any theory and research it. You'll find data supporting it and data trashing it.

SwissMaedel

Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, you don't have to avoid it completely, but if you're just eating fruit all day long to make up for non-sugary foods, that probably won't help you lose weight since fruit has a lot of sugar in it.

KristaPFT

I had a trainer tell me to keep it in moderation. Of course they are healthy but also high in sugar. I would say 1-3 servings a day and i like to have it after a workout or so to fill in the depleted glycogen.. plus ive heard ur body digests sugars fast after a workout. Correct me if im wrong

No you are right Mixed with protein is a good after workout smoothie

AlyssaC2010

My nutritionist, who is a also a professor, says the complete opposite. She says that fruits and veggies are GOOD for you. I mean, obviously if you're eating a ton of fruits and no veggies then your carb intake will be higher. But like other people have said, moderation is key. As is with everything else. For me, I'm more of a fruit person b/c I like sweets so I'll eat a lot of fruit in the summer time so I don't go for the chocolate.

tanniew78

I eat fruit every day and have lost a minimum of 5 lbs a week. So.... whatever. I prefer to LIVE my life. I also eat Oreos. And chocolate... And still lose... I choose to LIVE life rather than cut back so drastically that I WILL fail. Cuz eventually your body catches up to all the tricks.

AlyssaC2010

Quick comment..... nutritionists do not need degrees.
And since when does a personal trainer have degrees in nutrition? I know some may, but I'm pretty positive it's not a requirement.

Just my thought. I personally wouldn't listen to anyone until I knew their credentials.

Nutritionists don't need degrees? Because to be a registered dietitian by the American Dietetic Association you have to go to an accredited school by them and complete a year long dietetic internship that is also accredited by them. I'm in school to be an RD and have been told that to practice, you have to go through schooling...and I've always been under the impression that nutritionists are the same as registered dietitians unless they didn't go to an accredited school...however, I could be wrong. But either way, I'd imagine that you'd have to go to school because looking stuff up on the internet isn't always helpful if you're looking at old research, not in the right places, etc. Sorry to go on & on, I just needed to say that

iRun4wine

I think this is a classic case of anyone can find a person, article, "study" etc. that can justify or condemn just about everything if they look hard enough...

You don't even have to look that hard. Pick any theory and research it. You'll find data supporting it and data trashing it.

Yep- exactly my point. I remember a post on here a few years ago about how McDonald's fries have less fat (saturated fat, maybe... I don't even remember the details) than a cup of whole milk, and the person posting argued that McDonald's fries would be the better option :noway:

meg0013

not true. fruit sugar is fructose, a simple monosaccharide, whereas regular sugar (sucrose) is a disaccharide containing glucose & fructose. glucose is broken down in the body in several metabolic processes (glycolysis, CAC, etc) to produce ATP (energy) which then signals the release of insulin.

fructose, however, can't be used the same way as glucose. if sugar is needed for energy, then the body will convert fructose to glucose in a separate metabolic pathway. but most of the time, fructose is converted into glycogen and stored away.

so, there is a difference between the sugars. they can have the same effect, but not nearly to the same extent, hence why most nutritionists say they are okay in moderation.

i'm studying pharmacy & have taken several classes on this stuff (biochemistry 1&2, mammalian physiology, etc). if you really want to know more about your body & how it breaks down the foods you eat, look into biochemical research