PLEASE STOP! (If you don't know the nutritional values, don

TS65
TS65 Posts: 1,024 Member
edited September 26 in Food and Nutrition
Just a vent here...

If you don't know the nutritional value of a food, please don't add it to the database. I just looked up Honey Baked Ham and ended up with 3 different nutritional values. Who does that help - adding something with wrong info? It doesn't help you! AND it can mess up other people who may not think to double-check. Please.. just stop and do a little research before adding something!

ARGH!

Oh - and if you see an incorrect food - tag it! You are asked if the info is correct, if it isn't - check no! Hopefully that will help MFP get rid of the incorrect items.

*end rant*
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  • skinnyhopes
    skinnyhopes Posts: 402 Member
    OMG! That's so true. It gets pretty annoying sometimes!
  • a_stronger_steph
    a_stronger_steph Posts: 434 Member
    Hmm, good point. I only add a food to the database if I have the package with the nutritional info in front of me, but I am not so good at reporting the obviously incorrect listings that I come across. I'll start tagging things more often (and verifying when the info IS correct, for that matter)! :)
  • 512cheangela
    512cheangela Posts: 133
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?
  • Becca_007
    Becca_007 Posts: 596 Member
    Welcome to OUR world:noway:
  • Juliebean_1027
    Juliebean_1027 Posts: 713 Member
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?

    :laugh:
  • lajuana27
    lajuana27 Posts: 13
    I spent several minutes the other day trying to decipher which was the correct version of the food I was adding to my log. In the end, they were all wrong, and I just entered the values from the label.

    And you're right, we should all start tagging the incorrect ones as well, I will definitely start doing that!
  • proverbs31chick
    proverbs31chick Posts: 485 Member
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?

    SOOOOOOOOOOO true, there are like a million options.
  • BrandNewMia
    BrandNewMia Posts: 461
    There was a thread like this a few weeks ago and Mike (MFP creator) actually commented on it and said that cleaning up the food database is one of their top priorities. So hopefully one day SOON it will be a lot better!

    I have learned that when I find the correct value for a food that I am looking up, I save it in "My Meals" so I don't have to hunt for it again. What ticks me off is when I correct a particular item, then the next time I try to use it someone has changed it. Grr!!! :mad:
  • alison2429
    alison2429 Posts: 236 Member
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?


    So true!!!
  • SeasideOasis
    SeasideOasis Posts: 1,057 Member
    IM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE!!!

    I once found grilled chicken...guess how many grams of protein were listed? ZERO?!!? Are you kidding?! ZERO!!

    -=grumbles=- :angry: :grumble: :noway:

    I started adding things like "Summer's (insert food here)" because it wont leg you pick something that "might" be the same...even if it is not. Ive begun using the scanning bar code future on my Android APP to help better track anything store bought since people seem too lazy to put into in correctly...
  • ♥_Ellybean_♥
    ♥_Ellybean_♥ Posts: 1,646 Member
    :drinker:
  • Charli666
    Charli666 Posts: 407
    I am with you, but i was amazed at how different chicken pieces from different shops had such differing values, so it could be that they do know, and there are different values in different varieties
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    Welcome to OUR world:noway:

    LOL! Right!
    When in Doubt go to NutritionalData.com and/or Coheso.com
  • ReneeOfTheFae
    ReneeOfTheFae Posts: 117
    Devil's advocate here. Keep in mind that some recipes have different ingredients. Some pigs are raised differently, which can change the content of the meat. And not all fruits are the same size. I agree that it's like pulling teeth trying to find exactly what you need to log, but let's face it: not all food is the exact same thing every time.
  • BrandNewMia
    BrandNewMia Posts: 461
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?

    SOOOOOOOOOOO true, there are like a million options.

    For fruits, veggies and meats I only use the foods that were entered by MFP specifically and NOT the users. Foods in the database that begin with a * were entered by MFP users and I just don't trust 'em!
  • VixFit2011
    VixFit2011 Posts: 663 Member
    Thank you! I'm new here so I agree. I've found many things that don't match. I've been trying to enter correctly from what's on the labels of the foods I eat.
  • HoopFire5602
    HoopFire5602 Posts: 423 Member
    Uggg...I hate this too. I've tried to fix all of the ones I use that are F*ed up, but there are just so many that are wrong.
  • thekern
    thekern Posts: 21
    Oh no, I haven't even thought about the fact that people could be submitting incorrect info! I'll definitely have to keep my eye out for that kind of stuff a little better. You can be sure I'll be tagging things as incorrect if I see them!
  • Painten
    Painten Posts: 499 Member
    Don't forget that the nutrition values vary widely from country to country. I and i know some others are including thr country on the lable, also that items from multipacks differ from the single items, i note that too.
  • tam8374
    tam8374 Posts: 270 Member
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?

    I AGREEE!!! I never really know which one to pick. There are so many for a med. size banana.
  • NanBar
    NanBar Posts: 283 Member
    search the usda nutritional data base.
  • DeniseGdz
    DeniseGdz Posts: 592 Member
    Oh no, I haven't even thought about the fact that people could be submitting incorrect info! I'll definitely have to keep my eye out for that kind of stuff a little better. You can be sure I'll be tagging things as incorrect if I see them!

    I didn't know that either!! But I will not add/be adding anything unless I have the nutritional value (from now on)!!
    How do you tagg items if their incorrect???

    Learning on the Fly - :ohwell:
  • chantalsantos
    chantalsantos Posts: 18
    ...and really, how many different BANANA options does a girl really need?

    SOOOOOOOOOOO true, there are like a million options.

    For fruits, veggies and meats I only use the foods that were entered by MFP specifically and NOT the users. Foods in the database that begin with a * were entered by MFP users and I just don't trust 'em!
  • NeuroticVirgo
    NeuroticVirgo Posts: 3,671 Member
    I am with you, but i was amazed at how different chicken pieces from different shops had such differing values, so it could be that they do know, and there are different values in different varieties

    Also its sometimes different between countries, US vs Canada vs UK....etc. I noticed some people will label them (Canada) Fruit Loops, or something, but not everyone does. I thought it was interesting that a big brand would be different from place to place, but the labels are different, that could also be were some of this is coming from.

    what urks me is when someone enters only the calories and puts 0 for everything else. lol
  • chantalsantos
    chantalsantos Posts: 18
    how do you know which one was put on there from MFP? the ones that say generic?
  • NeuroticVirgo
    NeuroticVirgo Posts: 3,671 Member
    Don't forget that the nutrition values vary widely from country to country. I and i know some others are including thr country on the lable, also that items from multipacks differ from the single items, i note that too.

    LOL I must have posted same time as you.
  • Shandke
    Shandke Posts: 116 Member
    Agreed nothing more frustrating than selecting an item and having no nutritional data or worse, the wrong data. I LOVE the scanning function available on my droid phone though!
  • spcopps
    spcopps Posts: 283
    I am with you, but i was amazed at how different chicken pieces from different shops had such differing values, so it could be that they do know, and there are different values in different varieties

    Also its sometimes different between countries, US vs Canada vs UK....etc. I noticed some people will label them (Canada) Fruit Loops, or something, but not everyone does. I thought it was interesting that a big brand would be different from place to place, but the labels are different, that could also be were some of this is coming from.

    what urks me is when someone enters only the calories and puts 0 for everything else. lol

    This is true about the different countries..maybe mfp could add 1 more field in at the top of the food form that says "country". JMO.
  • chantalsantos
    chantalsantos Posts: 18
    -BrandNewMia- im sorry i didnt mean to re-post ur quote there i was trying to reply to ur post which was a question , how can you tell when it from MFP? but i just reposted ur quote im not good with the whole message board thing
  • wolfchild59
    wolfchild59 Posts: 2,608 Member
    Go to a store or do some online browsing and look at the nutritional labels for three different honey hams from three different sources and you're likely to get three different results that way too. Yes, something like a chicken breast not havin protein entered is clearly wrong. But don't assume entries are "wrong" just because they're different.

    Also keep in kind that companies themselves change nutritional info. Not long ago FiberOne 90 calories chocolate PB bars disappeared from the shelves and reappeared a few weeks later. When the new ones hit shelves again I picked up a box. Compared the info to the old box we still had at home (I buy 'em for the hubby mostly and he'd stockpiled when he saw they were disappearing from shelves) and two or three of the nutritional items had changed. And when I took one to throw in the car when I'd be on the road for awhile, when I went to enter it in MFP, all of the entries were "wrong" because they still had the old info. So I had to create a new entry that matched the new label. No one had entered the info wrong, it just became wrong as soon as the company updated their label.

    To sum up, I just wouldn't be so quick to come down on the users of MFP for creating a messy database. There are a lot of factors out there that contribute to multiple and different entries. And I didn't even touch on how labels for the same exact products could be different between the US and other countries due to their food labeling laws. lol
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