Sugar = Poison

jrusso28

Watch this video, I know its long but it is definitely worth watching.
I am curious for all your reactions.

Sugar: The Bitter Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

SunLove8

Bump for later when I got some time on my hands....

picturesing

BUMP

slimdebbiecakes

bump for later as well lol

tabi26

Bump

IrishChick71

I try to stay away from HFCS because I do think it has something to do with the high rate of obseity in our country. But I also believe in the old saying "Everything in moderation." Too much of anything we put in our mouths will make us fat...PERIOD.

I don't believe that the fruit God gaves is poison...unless we add poison to it. Simple as that.

Grokette

I try to stay away from HFCS because I do think it has something to do with the high rate of obseity in our country. But I also believe in the old saying "Everything in moderation." Too much of anything we put in our mouths will make us fat...PERIOD.

I don't believe that the fruit God gaves is poison...unless we add poison to it. Simple as that.

Well, if you look at it from that angle, why was the "fruit" on the forbidden tree? Maybe God was trying to tell us way back then that it is poisonous................

I don't believe in Everything in Moderation. There are many things the human body does not need in moderation.

tross0924

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

IrishChick71

I try to stay away from HFCS because I do think it has something to do with the high rate of obseity in our country. But I also believe in the old saying "Everything in moderation." Too much of anything we put in our mouths will make us fat...PERIOD.

I don't believe that the fruit God gaves is poison...unless we add poison to it. Simple as that.

Well, if you look at it from that angle, why was the "fruit" on the forbidden tree? Maybe God was trying to tell us way back then that it is poisonous................

I don't believe in Everything in Moderation. There are many things the human body does not need in moderation.

I'm not going to get into a religious talk with you because I think the correlation is ridiculous, to be frank.

But let me be more clear in my statement since it wasn't to you.

Everything FOOD-WISE that comes from the ground or had a mother is okay to eat in moderation. (unless it has venom....sorry I had to add that.

Let's stick to the subject. shall we? Not my personal beliefs.

I think the OP was asking about the video?

Now excuse me while I go pull a "Forbidden fruit" off the "Tree of Life" I grow in my back yard LOL

IrishChick71

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Agreed :happy:

madivp

I only had time to watch half of it, but will go back to finish. I am a coke drinker and after that will be stopping it. I always knew it was bad for me but not how bad it really was.

Grokette

I try to stay away from HFCS because I do think it has something to do with the high rate of obseity in our country. But I also believe in the old saying "Everything in moderation." Too much of anything we put in our mouths will make us fat...PERIOD.

I don't believe that the fruit God gaves is poison...unless we add poison to it. Simple as that.

Well, if you look at it from that angle, why was the "fruit" on the forbidden tree? Maybe God was trying to tell us way back then that it is poisonous................

I don't believe in Everything in Moderation. There are many things the human body does not need in moderation.

I'm not going to get into a religious talk with you because I think the correlation is ridiculous, to be frank.

But let me be more clear in my statement since it wasn't to you.

Everything FOOD-WISE that comes from the ground or had a mother is okay to eat in moderation. (unless it has venom....sorry I had to add that.

Let's stick to the subject. shall we? Not my personal beliefs.

I think the OP was asking about the video?

Now excuse me while I go pull a "Forbidden fruit" off the "Tree of Life" I grow in my back yard LOL

I was pondering a hypothetical and philosophical question. My apologies that you took such great offense to a mere question. The correlation is not ridiculous, it is something to ponder and think about.

Everything from the ground is NOT meant to be eaten. There are berries that are poisonous, but would be classified as berries.....

Nothing I said pointed at your "personal" beliefs...........Like I said, I was posing a question in general to spark thought and provoking conversation.

lodro

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Fruits and other foods we started cultivating are higher in sugar content than the botanic varieties found in nature. And then, nature "put" sugar there to make the fruits and their seeds attractive to birds and other animals, so as to help the seeds spread. And to have something to induce fermentation so a seed would have its own source of nutrients when it needs to sprout.

Nature didn't "put" the sugar there to feed humans. But it put nutrients in fruits for the same reason we "put" nutrients into embryos: to procreate.

IrishChick71

I try to stay away from HFCS because I do think it has something to do with the high rate of obseity in our country. But I also believe in the old saying "Everything in moderation." Too much of anything we put in our mouths will make us fat...PERIOD.

I don't believe that the fruit God gaves is poison...unless we add poison to it. Simple as that.

Well, if you look at it from that angle, why was the "fruit" on the forbidden tree? Maybe God was trying to tell us way back then that it is poisonous................

I don't believe in Everything in Moderation. There are many things the human body does not need in moderation.

I'm not going to get into a religious talk with you because I think the correlation is ridiculous, to be frank.

But let me be more clear in my statement since it wasn't to you.

Everything FOOD-WISE that comes from the ground or had a mother is okay to eat in moderation. (unless it has venom....sorry I had to add that.

Let's stick to the subject. shall we? Not my personal beliefs.

I think the OP was asking about the video?

Now excuse me while I go pull a "Forbidden fruit" off the "Tree of Life" I grow in my back yard LOL

I was pondering a hypothetical and philosophical question. My apologies that you took such great offense to a mere question. The correlation is not ridiculous, it is something to ponder and think about.

Everything from the ground is NOT meant to be eaten. There are berries that are poisonous, but would be classified as berries.....

Nothing I said pointed at your "personal" beliefs...........Like I said, I was posing a question in general to spark thought and provoking conversation.

Apology accepted....but you have to admit, your post was about what I posted and not about the video itself which is what caught me by surprise.

No worries though. It's shrugged off and plowed over.

I do agree not everything that comes from the ground is innocent. (Thus the venom comment ) But it is common sense to know what you are eating before you put it into your mouth.

But then again, I guess maybe it isn't common sense to most people and that is why they are in the situation they are in.

But I can only answer for myself.

IrishChick71

Sorry. No idea why that posted twice

vzepol

Now excuse me while I go pull a "Forbidden fruit" off the "Tree of Life" I grow in my back yard LOL

Funny, I needed this

IrishChick71

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Fruits and other foods we started cultivating are higher in sugar content than the botanic varieties found in nature. And then, nature "put" sugar there to make the fruits and their seeds attractive to birds and other animals, so as to help the seeds spread. And to have something to induce fermentation so a seed would have its own source of nutrients when it needs to sprout.

Nature didn't "put" the sugar there to feed humans. But it put nutrients in fruits for the same reason we "put" nutrients into embryos: to procreate.

For some reason I just got the urge to sing "The Circle of Life" from the Lion King.

lodro

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Fruits and other foods we started cultivating are higher in sugar content than the botanic varieties found in nature. And then, nature "put" sugar there to make the fruits and their seeds attractive to birds and other animals, so as to help the seeds spread. And to have something to induce fermentation so a seed would have its own source of nutrients when it needs to sprout.

Nature didn't "put" the sugar there to feed humans. But it put nutrients in fruits for the same reason we "put" nutrients into embryos: to procreate.

For some reason I just got the urge to sing "The Circle of Life" from the Lion King.

/joins chorus to sing

Ironically, in this respect, the cultivation of high sugar varieties of certain fruits is very successful from the tree's or plant's point of view because we help in its procreation.

But seriously, even 75 years ago, fruits were not so plentiful as to be available every day, in numerous servings per day. Most fruits were entirely seasonal and certain high sugar varieties we're not globally available, or only rarely so. So here too, our eating pattern has changed to such an extent that we don't even recognize it as unnatural anymore. We have increased the glycemic load of fruit considerably by eating it in huge quantities. That's the issue, not the sugar in fruit per se.

deeharley

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Fruits and other foods we started cultivating are higher in sugar content than the botanic varieties found in nature. And then, nature "put" sugar there to make the fruits and their seeds attractive to birds and other animals, so as to help the seeds spread. And to have something to induce fermentation so a seed would have its own source of nutrients when it needs to sprout.

Nature didn't "put" the sugar there to feed humans. But it put nutrients in fruits for the same reason we "put" nutrients into embryos: to procreate.

For some reason I just got the urge to sing "The Circle of Life" from the Lion King.

/joins chorus to sing

Ironically, in this respect, the cultivation of high sugar varieties of certain fruits is very successful from the tree's or plant's point of view because we help in its procreation.

But seriously, even 75 years ago, fruits were not so plentiful as to be available every day, in numerous servings per day. Most fruits were entirely seasonal and certain high sugar varieties we're not globally available, or only rarely so. So here too, our eating pattern has changed to such an extent that we don't even recognize it as unnatural anymore. We have increased the glycemic load of fruit considerably by eating it in huge quantities. That's the issue, not the sugar in fruit per se.

So, eat local, eat seasonal?

rachypompa

Odd, but I watched this earlier today ... posted in on a thread about staying under your sugar goals ... I never stay under the sugar goals on here, even when I don't feel that I've had anything sweet.

My understanding, from watching the video, is that the issue isn't with those naturally occurring sugars, though they should be eaten in moderation. As he says near the end, they come packaged with Fibre which helps ... the problem is that we have learnt to extract sugar from 'plants' (i.e. we're not eating it in it's natural state) and food companies are adding it to almost everything, and that since the US government deciding that "low fat" is the way, the food companies have been removing fat and to make up for lack of flavour they've been adding sugar. I've been looking through my cupboard and the full fat versions just about always have less sugar ...

I have to say that watching this made me cry. If it is true, and I'm willing to believe it, then it's an absolute tragedy. How many lives have been lost because of it? Also I'm concerned about the amount of sugar my kids eat ... they love ketchup ... and the 'sweets', and icecream, they're already addicted to sugar!

kayemme

So, eat local, eat seasonal?

it helps!!

Dawntodusk

I'm looking forward to watching it - especially since I cut sugar from my diet last year.

jrusso28

This is a total eye opener for me.
My wife and I are both going to be re-evaluating what we are eating.

I agree with some of the previous posters above about the fruit.
I can only speak for the wife and I, but we are taking in too much of it.
We had begun by substituting fruit for sweets, which is better than eating all those sweets.
But since we are taking in so much more fruit we are adding lots of sugar to our diets.

I started going through our cabinet last night and looking at all the new (healthy food) I bought since I started this new way of eating and tracking my calories. Its amazing that although lots of the items are low fat ana low calories they contain lots of sugar and very little fiber.

We plan to increase our fiber intake (over 20) and lower our sugar intake (below 30) and see what kind of a difference that makes.

Will keep you folks posted on how my little experiment goes.

dls06

Everyone has a strong opinion about the sugar in fruit but put a Peanut butter Cup or Muffin recipe on the blog and everyone loves it?

jrusso28

I'm not posting this thread to open the debate over is fruit sugar as bad as other sugar.
The video discusses sugars in the diet in general and how they have been affecting our health.

Personally, I will do my best to stay away from sugar in general.
That includes the peanutbutter cups and muffins as well as the fruit.

seansquared

Nature doesn't put sugar in vegetables, fruit, and other foods for kicks. It's there for a reason

Yeah, it's there to feed the plant. Apple trees don't care about you, they aren't here for you, they just happen to bear edible fruit.

Fruit and vegetables are also high-fiber sugar delivery systems, which means the sugar hits your bloodstream slowly and steadily unless you're pounding apples like it's your job, of course! They aren't peanut butter cups!

seansquared

This is a total eye opener for me.
My wife and I are both going to be re-evaluating what we are eating.

I agree with some of the previous posters above about the fruit.
I can only speak for the wife and I, but we are taking in too much of it.
We had begun by substituting fruit for sweets, which is better than eating all those sweets.
But since we are taking in so much more fruit we are adding lots of sugar to our diets.

I started going through our cabinet last night and looking at all the new (healthy food) I bought since I started this new way of eating and tracking my calories. Its amazing that although lots of the items are low fat ana low calories they contain lots of sugar and very little fiber.

We plan to increase our fiber intake (over 20) and lower our sugar intake (below 30) and see what kind of a difference that makes.

Will keep you folks posted on how my little experiment goes.

Good man! I have a feeling you will see great results. I cut out sweets altogether and have been shedding weight like crazy over the past year. I will still have a slice of cake at a birthday party or a few beers out with the guys, but I make sure I "pay it back" by hitting the weights.

bmontgomery87

Well, if you look at it from that angle, why was the "fruit" on the forbidden tree? Maybe God was trying to tell us way back then that it is poisonous................

I don't believe in Everything in Moderation. There are many things the human body does not need in moderation.

dls06

I'm not posting this thread to open the debate over is fruit sugar as bad as other sugar.
The video discusses sugars in the diet in general and how they have been affecting our health.

Personally, I will do my best to stay away from sugar in general.
That includes the peanutbutter cups and muffins as well as the fruit.

My point about the peanut butter cup and muffins is.
When someone post something about the sugar in fruit or something about Carbs vs. Fat.
Everyong jumps on to say how bad one way or another.
But put a Peanut butter cup or Muffin recipe and all you see if Great, Have to try this, Bump.
That was my point, never a negative comment. But talk about Apples?

jojoworks

Personally I think this is a great debate to be having. As the beacon of scrutiny has focused on sugar and the various ways we consume it I've been wondering (after watching Sugar The Bitter Truth and reading the NYT's article Is Sugar Toxic) if we don't need to track sugar differently. Would it matter if we tracked fructose, glucose and sucrose? If the site designers even could fashion this, would the data be helpful to us?

My take on the fruit debate is that I will eat some fruit in moderation because I believe that in addition to fiber and some good basic nutrients, you also get some really good flavanoids and micro-nutrients you wouldn't otherwise. You can't take a pill or supplement for everything. Why not eat some frozen wild blueberries, a grapefruit and a banana once in a while?

be nice to each other, respectful debate is healthy and enjoy your food!

Barneystinson

I'm not posting this thread to open the debate over is fruit sugar as bad as other sugar.
The video discusses sugars in the diet in general and how they have been affecting our health.

Personally, I will do my best to stay away from sugar in general.
That includes the peanutbutter cups and muffins as well as the fruit.

My point about the peanut butter cup and muffins is.
When someone post something about the sugar in fruit or something about Carbs vs. Fat.
Everyong jumps on to say how bad one way or another.
But put a Peanut butter cup or Muffin recipe and all you see if Great, Have to try this, Bump.
That was my point, never a negative comment. But talk about Apples?

Some of us don't even bother commenting on muffin recipes and other junk "health" food because we're probably too busy face-palming like the image the guy above posted.