Fat girls are easy

Kirsty_UK

It would be handy if the reporters recognised (and discussed) the difference between correlation and causation in this case.

a massive distinction - I remember in school a teacher using the example of stork populations fluctating with human birth rates and how correlation being mistaken for causation could lead to people assuming storks bring babies!

TourThePast

It would be handy if the reporters recognised (and discussed) the difference between correlation and causation in this case.

a massive distinction - I remember in school a teacher using the example of stork populations fluctating with human birth rates and how correlation being mistaken for causation could lead to people assuming storks bring babies!

Which gives me the perfect opportunity to link my favourite webcomic, on this very subject. :bigsmile:

http://xkcd.com/925/

There is no chance of your average breakfast show host being able to understand and interpret the results of scientific studies for the "benefit" of their listeners. The way I see it, there is a good reason they didn't manage to get a "proper job" in the first place...

Thamantha

yay for XKCD! It is a brilliant comic

killerqueen17

I don't think the study was dodgy at all it sounds like it was done very professionally the trouble is in how the results are being misrepresented.

As far as additional factors there are always additional factors in any social research that's why you have to have large test groups so that individual variance can be negated out.

This is why why we need to have science reporters again. Very few news departments maintain staff who actually know how to report on scientific data so instead we get half explained news stories about fat girls being easy and cars that run on water.

As I said before we should focus on addressing the issue rather than getting angry about the research. Let's make sure young women don't feel like they need to provide sex in order to feel validated regardless of their shape..

Very good points! Agree, agree, agree.

bmqbonnie

Honestly, it doesn't really bother me. We agree that people with low self esteem are more likely to give it up, yes? Is it such a stretch to say overweight people are more likely to have low self esteem? I know my self esteem is better at a lower weight than a higher one, though that's not the only determining factor.

Note I say MORE LIKELY. No one is saying that every single female with a BMI in the overweight range is going to be easy.

I'm overweight. If that puts me in a category that says I'm more likely to be this or that, that doesn't mean that I'm not an outlier. It's an average.

Meh. It's a rock station, not a motivational talk station. If they play good rock that's good enough for me- though I usually do change the station when they talk. I want to listen to music, not listen to them blab.

FearAnLoathing

Its just a radio station,who cares really. Its a, joke an people need to stop being so sensitive

Navie42

Correlation does not equal causation.

sunkisses

Yeah, I'm with the camp of people who hold the study separate from the people who brought the study to the radio listeners. My close friend has a popular morning show on a big station out here, and he presented that same study last week. He chooses these studies for the possibility of sensationalization. That's the part that sucks, but unless you're listening to NPR (and sometimes even then...) this is what they do with research. I try to find the original study and then base my judgements on that.

Sunrize1

Unbelievable, Im having a hard time believing this was a a true study. You did the right think by turning it off! I think you should write the radio station as well!

RangerSteve

There are people in here talking about writing in and complaining. Seriously? It's a radio show. If you don't like it.......<GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASP> turn it off? When did people become so sensitive?

oyvonnee

Last time I checked I couldn't find any overweight women pushing to get to the front of the "Let's get naked" line. :laugh:

SiltyPigeon

Men are easy.

Contrarian

I'm easy.

CryTerrell

Ew, that's just gross.

vim_n_vigor

Men are easy.

They didn't need a study for that, just which chicks are easier targets. Studies lately don't mean so much anyway. I can't believe money is wasted on them or that anyone pays attention anymore.

Samerah12

I'm not being insensitive here, but these things are said because more often than not it's true to a certain degree. In today's society with body image being so heavily focused on, someone who views themselves as overweight and unattractive may love the attention from guys who are just looking to get laid. In the end it's two adult decisions. The radio station was simply bold enough to state it.

Don't take it personal, ignore it and enjoy some music.

Thank you!

And honestly, why is it that women who might want a one night stand automatically have low self esteem and no respect for themselves?? Frankly I find that an insulting double standard and I hear it most often from other women.

cloneme_losehalf

They didn't use me as a part of the study!!!! I would have been a minority of what they claimed to have found! HA!!! I would not be single if I was one of their statistics. I think a lot of guys THINK that the statics is true based on dates over the last few years :explode: What a shame they go home disappointed! Maybe they should not meet with such expectations!!!

FearAnLoathing

Yes you should write the station I mean who do they think they are talking about something you dont like in a country with free speech

rhiannon1621

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone is also entitled to vent if they dont like something. I think the people who are saying so stop listening and dont whinge should take their own advice, if you dont like the topic close it and don't comment? Seems like doublt standards to me......

aurorasangel2000

Yes, thank you very much!!! Size doesn't have anything to do with it. It's your self-esteem and what you believe.

aurorasangel2000

I think it's a bogus stat. I am no researcher, but in my lifetime I have seen that low-selfesteem in women is pretty much the same percentage wise regardless of weight or looks. There are very confident large women I know, and thin ones that society would deem "hot" who have still developed eating disorders.

So yes, women with lower self-esteem are more likely to have sex, but how about heavier women that have sex because they enjoy it, not because they are debasing themselves?

And why is no one mentioning the guys who sleep with these girls. Seems to me that many, many men sleep around not from a genetic predisposition for promiscuity, but in order to prove themselves and feel wanted.

So if you are going to discect a womans sexuality in the way it sounds like this show have, they had better be more fair across the board.

Thank you very much!!!

carpediem3

I've also noticed most the morning talk shows on the radio are not kid friendly & degrade many walks of life. I made a cd of the music my kids like and we listen to it on the way to school every morning

ejohndrow

38% of all statistics are made up.

lkm111

I love that they equate "fat" and "ugly". They could not be more wrong. There are many skinny people who are quite ugly, especially on the inside.

xxxTiaxxx

It's true though. Just cause someone on here may be bigger and doesn't do that doesn't mean other larger girls don't. It's a case study and unfortunately the results are in

wolfchild59

Personally, I avoided sex for a long time because of my weight. I had no desire to be seen naked, even by guys that were clearly interested in me despite my size. When I got to my heaviest (while I was married) I even became shy about being naked in front of my husband, who (obviously) didn't care about my size and just loved me for everything I was, but it was just a mental block for me. So I can't imagine associating anyone being easy directly to being overweight because that just seems so unlike my experiences and those of other overweight friends (who I've talked about this with in the past).

calibri

38% of all statistics are made up.

Sources? I heard it's 68%.

Fredrigo

So I decided to look up the actual study and it's being misrepresented even more than I thought. The study itself was intended to address the fact that research showed obstetricians and gynecologists were less likely to do appropriate follow-up on birth control for women who had a High BMI due to the widely held belief among them as professionals that they were less likely to engage in sex. The researchers wanted to prove that this was false so they could correct the practice. In the process not only did they find that women with a high BMI engage in sex as frequently they discovered they engaged in sex more frequently.

This University research (not to be confused with that done by private commercial labs) was undertaken in an attempt to help protect women. Now due to the poor excuse for journalism in this country half of you seem to be under the impression this study was intended to target women for exploitation.

I again ask you to focus on the problem that has been pointed out. Ironically getting angry at how you heard about the story is just providing the attention that will drive the media to continue to cherry pick facts and portray thing in the most sensational way in the future.

Here is an excerpt from an interview about the study

“I was glad to see that the stereotype that you have to be slender to have sex is just that, a stereotype,” Harvey said.

Kaneshiro said the data showed that overweight women were more likely to report having sexual intercourse with a man, even when she controlled for age, race and type of residence. Ninety-two percent of overweight women reported having a history of sexual intercourse with a man, as opposed to 87 percent of women with a normal body mass index.

“These results were unexpected and we don’t really know why this is the case,” Kaneshiro said.

Harvey said the important part to take away from the study is that physicians and others who work in women’s medical health should never make assumptions about sexual behavior based on outward appearances.

Notice how much the content changes if you only read this part

Kaneshiro said the data showed that overweight women were more likely to report having sexual intercourse with a man, even when she controlled for age, race and type of residence. Ninety-two percent of overweight women reported having a history of sexual intercourse with a man, as opposed to 87 percent of women with a normal body mass index.

“These results were unexpected and we don’t really know why this is the case,” Kaneshiro said.

shauna121211

I'm not really sure why it's so offensive to discuss a "study" on the radio...

Fredrigo

I'm not really sure why it's so offensive to discuss a "study" on the radio...

I'm offended because it was bad science journalism.