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  • SatelliteCrush80
    SatelliteCrush80 Posts: 3,575 Member
    Hi everyone :flowerforyou:

    So nice to see a group of other women who are incredibly active and also EAT! A little about me...I am 5'8, weigh 145ish (yay for fluctuation), and am a distance runner who also does P90X. This is actually my second attempt at it, as I got frustrated during the first round with my lack of results...likely due to not eating enough. My calorie totals vary by day, but I try not to go any lower than 1800 on easy/active rest days. Other days, depending on whether I am lifting, running, or both I shoot for 2000-2400.

    Look forward to talking to you!

    wELCOME!! I am 5'8" as well and I am also doing p90x for the second time, and run on cardio days instead of plyo/kenpo. I am wondering if you net 2000-2400 of your total daily intake is 2000-2400??? I didnt have any results after a full 12 weeks doing round 1 of p90x, although I felt stronger my weight and measurements are essentially the same. I am in week 5 of second round. I am 164ish and my goal is 148, but I have been fluctuating 162-166 for the past 8 mos!!

    I wear a BodyBugg, so I pretty much shoot for those amounts as a total. But then again, I have my MFP settings to very active so I don't account for exercise cals...I just eat. Yesterday for example, I did Plyometrics and ran. My BB said that I burned about 2800 for the day, and I ate somewhere around 2200.
  • TluvK
    TluvK Posts: 733 Member
    My food diary is open, but I don't log in it at the moment. Logging was making me an obsessive, crazy person, so I stopped.

    This is me. Although, when I'm having a real "snacky' day, I will sit down and log just to make sure it doesn't get out of hand and I all of a sudden find myself at 2,600 cals.

    I just realized that my food diary was closed the other day, so I opened it to friends. I really don't log consistently, but I don't care if they see what I eat. I actually want people to know that I eat a lot while maintaining a very healthy weight....but then again, I don't actually have a lot of friends so I doubt many people are even looking at my diary!

    I look at my friend's diaries sometimes - especially when it says, "under their calorie goal". I'm just curious how far under they were. Another calorie issue that bothers me here, is that I think people are so obsessed with seeing "under their calorie goal" that they nitpick down to -1 calories for the day just so they can be rewarded by this meaningless phrase.
  • lucyhoneychurch
    lucyhoneychurch Posts: 576 Member
    My diary is open to friends, and I dont care if they look or not. If they dont like what they see, too bad. I have a bodymedia and usually track there so i dont even track here all the time, although lately I have been tracking here.

    I will occasionally look at someones diary if they are asking for advice, or if someone is close to my goals and is having success, but I dont go in regularly just because I see the post on my wall that says "so and so is below their intake..."
    i will also check out someones diary if they are trying low carb/high protein or something along that line just to see what they are eating. I have never commented on someone elses diary unless they asked for a critique.
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    ^^This is also how I think, too. But I don't have the bodymedia [yet].
    I don't comment on someone else's diary unless they ask for a critique, or unless I've gotten comfy with the person and it's a give and take.

    ETA: I posted about the 1200 calorie eaters earlier (page 9, I think) and I was lamenting over how little calories they eat. I thought about dropping them from my friend list because, like many, I don't want to surround myself with unhealthy eaters or people on the road to eating disorders. Everyone's certainly entitled to tailor their list to people that are like-minded and able to support them back. I love that kind of energy, like the kind of energy here.

    But maybe some of those poor-choice eaters could benefit from a good example. They may not be ready right now to see it, but it could get some wheels turning. It's not my job to turn everyone into a believer of eating 2000+ calories or to make healthy food choices, since I don't always make the healthiest ones either. I decided NOT to un-friend the 1200 calorie-and-less eater on my list because hey, she can always un-friend ME if she's sick of hearing how much I ate. Sure enough, today on her status I saw: I am going to try really hard to reach my calorie goal today! Maybe she will, maybe she won't. But it's a good attitude.
  • fimm
    fimm Posts: 191 Member
    Maybe we could have a recipe thread? "Healthy and nutritious food for active people" or something?

    Anyway, I need your help!! I have a PUMPKIN sitting in my kitchen! What on earth do I do with a pumpkin?? I've never prepared one before... (I know I can google, but I don't even know if I need to peel the thing or not, and what is inside it and can I eat all of it??

    HELP...
  • TluvK
    TluvK Posts: 733 Member
    Maybe we could have a recipe thread? "Healthy and nutritious food for active people" or something?

    Anyway, I need your help!! I have a PUMPKIN sitting in my kitchen! What on earth do I do with a pumpkin?? I've never prepared one before... (I know I can google, but I don't even know if I need to peel the thing or not, and what is inside it and can I eat all of it??

    HELP...

    GREAT idea on the recipe thread.
    Now for the pumpkin: Make your own pumpkin puree! All you have to do is cut the pumpkin in quarters (carefully!). Scoop out the seeds and the stringy stuff. Put on a baking pan, flesh side up. Add a little water to the pan. Roast at 350 degrees for 70-90 minutes. Take out of oven, let cool and then scoop out flesh with a spoon and put in food processor until smooth. If you don't have a processor, use a blender or immersion blender.

    Then, make this: http://www.skinnytaste.com/2011/10/crockpot-turkey-white-bean-pumpkin.html
  • SatelliteCrush80
    SatelliteCrush80 Posts: 3,575 Member
    Maybe we could have a recipe thread? "Healthy and nutritious food for active people" or something?

    Anyway, I need your help!! I have a PUMPKIN sitting in my kitchen! What on earth do I do with a pumpkin?? I've never prepared one before... (I know I can google, but I don't even know if I need to peel the thing or not, and what is inside it and can I eat all of it??

    HELP...

    I love the idea of a recipe thread, but I'm useless as far as knowing how to prepare a pumpkin. LOL. I only ever use the canned stuff.
  • agthorn
    agthorn Posts: 1,844 Member
    Wow, I was gone from the forums for a few days and this thread rolled and is already up to 11 pages :-) So I'm just commenting to get it into my topics.

    Had an off day Saturday - logged "breakfast" and "lunch" from my trip to a Mud Run (5K) and a rough estimate of the cals, but then we went to a Brazilian Steakhouse and I have no idea how much meat I ate. So I gave up trying to log for that day. Sunday was a total rest day and then I've been at 1700-1900 the past two days.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    MFP never told me to eat 1200 calories - the lowest it ever put me was 1440 and 1440 was the point at which I said "that's it" and upped my cals by dropping my goal to .5lb/week.

    As far as open diaries or eating junk - I have an open diary to friends (add me if you like) and I eat junk food fairly often (a few times a week for sure). I suspect that the reason my diary completes get like 3 "good jobs" and some of my friends get 30 is because I eat junk by a lot of dieters standards. But for me I am a) satisfied when I eat b) make a conscientious effort to order veggies or fruit as a side instead of mashed potatoes/chips/fries and c) I am eating the way I plan to eat the rest of my life, which is NORMALLY. I don't have to order my veggies with no butter or my salad with fat free dressing (I don't use all the dressing anyway but a tablespoon of most dressings is like 50 calories, whoopdeefreakingdoo).

    BUT because I eat more than 1200 calories I can have BOTH junk AND nutritious food. I had a mini snickers 2 days in a row (my coworker brought candy) and that's FINE because I also had things like vegetable soup with sausage, dark leafy salad, etc etc.

    I do look at people's diaries and (I think I said this already) I praise them based on the person, not the diary. If I know the person is having a hrd time logging every dya then I will tell them "Good job for logging" no matter what is in there. But if I know someone is trying to eat more fruits and veggies I might say "hey what happened to the veggies" if there aren't any on their diary.

    By the way I would love a recipe thread that is nutritious but not DIET food - I don't *need* 200 calorie meals so those recipes just annoy me.
  • nmg8
    nmg8 Posts: 73 Member
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  • scarletleavy
    scarletleavy Posts: 841 Member
    I'm totally in for a recipe thread. I love to cook, but most of my recipes wouldn't fly for a lot of people on this site, too much real food in them, too many calories, etc. Haha
  • kamora1986
    kamora1986 Posts: 5 Member
    Hi Ladies!
    I was trying to do the 1,200 calories a day thing, but really wanted to make a life change instead of just a quick diet fix. I run 6 days a week and strength train so consider myself fairly active. I've gotten used to eating low calories and am scared to increase my calories but I feel like it would be a lot more healthy life choice and better for my training. I'd love to be part of a supportive group and have friends like you ladies to learn how to eat 2000 calories without them being unhealthy calories or feeling guilty because I'm actually eating, haha.
    And no, I was never overweight or ate a lot of greasy fast food, I just want to get in better shape and be more athletic, possibly with a half-marathon in my future!
    Thanks
  • dawnemjh
    dawnemjh Posts: 1,465 Member
    Maybe we could have a recipe thread? "Healthy and nutritious food for active people" or something?

    Anyway, I need your help!! I have a PUMPKIN sitting in my kitchen! What on earth do I do with a pumpkin?? I've never prepared one before... (I know I can google, but I don't even know if I need to peel the thing or not, and what is inside it and can I eat all of it??

    HELP...

    You can make pumpkin soup or pumpkin bread also, but it also depends what kind of pumpkin you have. SOme are beter for jack o laterns and cooking pumpkins are better for eating. Not sure what the diff. is. though. I have had some awesome pumpkin peanut butter soup. The pumkin is cooked like any winter squash, (i usually bake winter squash and then cut in half and scoop out the insides. )
  • *This may have been discussed already, so apologies if it has*
    But I was wondering, how do you ladies get enough calories and maintain a reasonable sodium level? I've recently been trying to pay attention to how much sodium I'm consuming and I'm finding it harder to stay around my goal on the days that I eat more due to working out and even on normal days. I try to stay away from overly processed foods (no one is perfect!) but I'm finding that my beloved dairy products and even eggs contain quite a bit of sodium...help!
  • jkuhn71
    jkuhn71 Posts: 199
    What a fantastic thread!

    I'm thinking I need to start working my way up to about the 2000 calorie per day range. I'm currently eating around 1600, but started NROLFW a few weeks ago and I really started to notice this week that I'm hungry!!! I knew I was going to need to start eating more, but I was scared to make a jump and way overcalculate what I should up my calories to! Anyone want to take a stab at what they think I should be eating? I'm 40, 5'4" tall, weigh 136, and last body fat check had me at 22.8%. I do my NROLFW workouts 3x per week & typically add 30 minutes of cardio those days as well. I do either a 55 minute class at the gym (Les Mills' BodyCombat or BodyStep, typically) or a comparable workout at home (courtesy of my ever growing DVD collection) 3 other days of the week. And I take one day as a rest day.

    I have a few other questions for you ladies. Did you gradually up your calories or just take the plunge and do it all at once?
    Also - with weight lifting, I've heard that HRMs are NOT good for calculating your calories burned. From reading through the thread, I see a lot of you have the BodyFit or BodyBugg. Are they more accurate for weight lifting?

    Thanks in advance for your input!
    Jess
  • psych101
    psych101 Posts: 1,842 Member
    you can buy canned pumpkin?! Wow, New Zealand is waaaaaay behind in terms of food! hehe
    I never buy the big grey pumpkins because I'm always worried that I'm going to chop my fingers off, but I love the butternut ones....mmm cut up and put into a curry mmmm

    I've never had my diary open to anyone, I keep little notes in it, but the more that I think about it, the more I wonder whether I should just open the blimmin thing. I mean whats the worst that could happen, maybe I might convince my super low calorie MFP friends to eat more! Sometimes I look at my diary compared to others and mines like a page longer lol!! I'm also restricted as I use the iPhone app mainly so I can't spread it out to show Breakfast, Snack, Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Snack - I have to have Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Snacks on my iPhone so my total snacks for the day are always an ENORMOUS amount of calories!

    It peeves me off when people have "so and so was under thier calorie goal" and everyone cheers them on, so i check their diary and they hit about 700 calories for the day (total). Why encourage behaviour like that?! Maybe I need some new friends lol

    The 1200's who can't reach their calorie goal really do annoy me, but I think its more a matter of not being educated enough in what kinds of food are both nutrionally and calorically dense - they just see the calories in a tablespoon of peanut butter and freak out! I also think that for many of them, eating whole foods enables them to feel full and not feel like continuing to eat for the first time ever - I think they want to hold onto that feeling for as long as possible.

    Thanks for the great comments about finally getting my A into G and enrolling for the nutrition course :) I'm super excited but nervous at the same time!

    So today is a rest day for me, I completed some great speedwork during my run last night and was drenched when I was done. Aiming for about 2100 today woohoo for food!
  • SatelliteCrush80
    SatelliteCrush80 Posts: 3,575 Member
    I'm totally in for a recipe thread. I love to cook, but most of my recipes wouldn't fly for a lot of people on this site, too much real food in them, too many calories, etc. Haha

    Hahaha, I know what you mean. I went back to 2% milk to help increase cals AND I use half and half in my coffee. *gasp*
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Jess -- Go gradual, add 200 and give it a couple weeks to see how you do, BUT if yuou're still hungry after the 200 I'd say go ahead and ahve 200 more anyway. Worst thing that can happen is you'll gain a pound one week right? Big deal, you can lose it.

    Strength training makes me HUNGRY - I don't need extra food after cardio (just water) but strength training leaves me hungry for a day or two.

    And I don't actually eat 2k every day - I'm not that big or that active and I'm not in maintenance yet. I'm set to 1680 before exercise. I'm just here because I prefer talking to the ladies who EAT.


    STronger -- I don't bother with it. I just keep my water intake up on high sodium days to flush out the extra salt. I could care less if I gain a pound or two of water weight and I don't have high blood pressure or anything so it doesn't matter to me.
  • caveats
    caveats Posts: 493 Member
    Lull at work today (thank God) ...

    No, I don't have my diary open. At first, it was because I didn't think people would care to look. Now that I've read the forums more and I see that people will randomly look, it's more of I don't care to explain the food choices I make. I eat a wide variety of food -- everything from healthy, organic, locally sourced whole food (I love supporting my local farmers) to fast food (as in McDonald's, the worst of the worst, I have a weakness for Mickey D's fries that I give in to every once in a while). If anybody did care to look, I'm sure it'd confuse the heck out of them. ;)

    No, I don't generally look into other people's diaries. When I first started, I looked a few times out of curiosity to see how people were coming in under their calorie limits. That was often an exercise in confusion and depression. So I stopped. Besides, I'd rather engage in the forums. :)
    I have a few other questions for you ladies. Did you gradually up your calories or just take the plunge and do it all at once?
    Also - with weight lifting, I've heard that HRMs are NOT good for calculating your calories burned. From reading through the thread, I see a lot of you have the BodyFit or BodyBugg. Are they more accurate for weight lifting?

    Took the plunge. I was tired and hungry at GROSSING 1200/day (while exercising. Geez.) I willfully and joyfully surrendered at all once. :D These days, I land around 1800/day on weekdays and 2200/day on weekends, but it's not really a product of planning, per se, as much as it's a product of aiming for 130g protein/day. The calories kinda just fall in line around those ranges when I'm trying to eat/drink all that protein and manage my macros.

    I don't own a BodyFit/BodyBugg or any other type of HRM. Gotta pay off those student loans. ;) Plus, I'm not convinced their usefulness is worth their price tags -- at least, for my personal goals. I'm "winging it" and doing fine; I can see the difference in the mirror as well as via tracking tape measurements, and I didn't have a lot to lose to begin with (mostly doing a combo of build strength/lower BF%; overall weight loss will come as a result of that).
  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
    My diary is open to friends, but I accept all friend requests because friends can be deleted :laugh:

    I think the recipe thread idea is great. In the UK, fortunately, we don't have half the cr@p in those ridiculous recipes. It takes me forever to find recipes with proper ingredients and I'd love to share them.

    I'm finding it hard to eat enough healthy food while I'm off school. School food is excellent, but away from school I have to work harder at it.
  • jomatho
    jomatho Posts: 311 Member
    Thanks for the diary open/unopened input. You guys gave me some good insight and I agreed with all of you (for and against)! I am still on the fence, but I guess I will leave it open for now but change the stupid setting that alerts everyone that I completed it and I stick out like a sore thumb because I go over on a lot of days and no one else does. Very good points about low calorie friends, I have a hard time with this also, but thinking about leading by example is great.
    Got in a great burn today. Someone posted a link to an article earlier, sorry can't remember who, and from that article it got me thinking about my weight lifting and that I still need to lose fat, but want to keep my muscle, so I googled weight lifting for fat loss and came across some good routines, one of which I tried today called the 2 day Intense Fat Loss and Muscle Toning Routine. Not sure it was put together by anyone certified to do so, but it looked fun so I tried it and it really kicked my butt. Here is the link if anyone is interested:
    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/2-day-intense-workout.html
    There was also a nice collection of all kinds of workouts here:
    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/main.html
    The one I did was under "workouts for women". So whoever posted that link earlier to the article, thanks, you spiced up my workouts for a little while!
    So I have been under eating a little on purpose the last couple days (if you call 1600-1800 NET under eating, lol) to try to bust through this weight I have been at and I plan to jump it back up closer to the weekend, sort of zigzagging, I guess. I am also planning ahead since TOM is expected soon and I get ravenous right before that! I hope it works out okay, so far so good. I didn't plan on my burns being so high the last couple days though, Monday it was 3700 and yesterday 2800. I probably picked the wrong days to go lower, now my body will be stingy. I think the more I try to plan, the more I struggle.
    Hope everyone is having a great day, gotta go eat :wink: !
  • stubbysticks
    stubbysticks Posts: 1,275 Member
    Personally I've been averaging 2000-ish since I started my weight loss last May. Only this past week have I decided to drop my calories, & that was mostly in response to an unexplained decrease in appetite that started a couple weeks ago. I felt like I was force-feeding myself to get to 1900 some days.

    I'm giving the Spike Diet a go. I keep my workout schedule the same - lift 3 days alternated with running 3 days, 1 full rest day - but I have specific calorie targets that are staggered. The running days are my low days, 1350 calories, & the lifting days are the high days, 1850 calories per day. I'm shooting for 144-175g of protein on all days, then eat whatever else I want to get me to the target. Then one day a week I have Spike Day, where I eat/drink a minimum of 3600 calories to create a surplus & reset my metabolism. Been doing the spike day thing every weekend for a while, but am trying out the lower weekday calories to see how it goes. So far so good.

    I don't track food here, I track it elsewhere & I honestly don't have time to go through peoples' diaries. However, I did go low carb for a while & on the other site I would occasionally go through my Atkins friends' food diaries to get ideas for stuff to eat.

    PUMPKIN - I have a friend (from NZ, incidentally) who will put a whole pumpkin in the oven & roast it for several hours, THEN make the flesh into pumpkin soup. I imagine it's much easier to cut into that way.

    I wear a Bodymedia Fit & to me the cost is justified because I keep very detailed records of everything I do. By have a relatively accurate record of what I'm burning each day & comparing it to my intake it helps me figure out what's working & what isn't, especially at times like now when I'm implementing changes to my routine.
  • spoiledwife12
    spoiledwife12 Posts: 151 Member
    My diary is open to my friends (feel free to add me- I need more like-minded friends). I don't really care who looks at it, though. I'm sure I shock a few people with the length of my entries. I eat a lot of fresh foods and homemade things.

    I also don't care for the " under her calorie goal" feature. I have to concentrate on the big picture and not worry about red numbers.

    I love this thread. It keeps me grounded. I admit, sometimes I'm tempted to cut calories thinking it will speed things up, but I know I shouldn't.

    By the way, I just discovered Emerald cocoa-roasted dark chocolate almonds!! Heaven!!
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    My diary is open to the public.
    I eat what I want and don't give a crap who sees it. I complete it whether I am under or over, and I usually have some sort of explanation in the notes section if something was odd that day.

    I also hate with a PASSION when people give a WTG on a diary that sucks. If it is under 1200, no congrats. And I hate people who say WTG or good job when my diary clearly sucks that day, like a huge 3000 cal greasy splurge.....
    One time I was sick and had about 800 calories, half of which I probably threw up. Notes section said I was sick and dying (felt like). REAL friends said "I hope you feel better". The ones who said "way to go" just because it was "under" are no longer my friends. Either read it or don't bother to comment.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member


    By the way, I just discovered Emerald cocoa-roasted dark chocolate almonds!! Heaven!!

    LOVE these. I had some today actually.:heart:
  • *This may have been discussed already, so apologies if it has*
    But I was wondering, how do you ladies get enough calories and maintain a reasonable sodium level? I've recently been trying to pay attention to how much sodium I'm consuming and I'm finding it harder to stay around my goal on the days that I eat more due to working out and even on normal days. I try to stay away from overly processed foods (no one is perfect!) but I'm finding that my beloved dairy products and even eggs contain quite a bit of sodium...help!

    my sodium is through the roof..I add salt to everything. literally. I'm sure with dinner alone, a homemade meal, I have 125% of my daily sodium plus my other food and I'm likely at 300%. I just don't really concern myself with it but that's not a great answer. sorry i couldn't be of better help. I try to drink enough water to stabilize my sodium levels though.
  • My diary is open to friends, but I accept all friend requests because friends can be deleted :laugh:

    I think the recipe thread idea is great. In the UK, fortunately, we don't have half the cr@p in those ridiculous recipes. It takes me forever to find recipes with proper ingredients and I'd love to share them.

    I'm finding it hard to eat enough healthy food while I'm off school. School food is excellent, but away from school I have to work harder at it.

    Pack nuts...peanuts are relatively cheap and 2-3 oz will run you 320-480 calories. They're super portable and also quick to eat. Dried fruits with no added sugar are another good choice. With a little planning it gets easier!

    I would recommend just purchasing a huge package of nuts of some sort and putting 2 oz in a bag and grabbing one every day...and a banana or apple as well with a few tbsp of peanut butter. You can scoop it onto a plastic spoon and drop it in a ziploc. easy peasy!
  • BUT because I eat more than 1200 calories I can have BOTH junk AND nutritious food. I had a mini snickers 2 days in a row (my coworker brought candy) and that's FINE because I also had things like vegetable soup with sausage, dark leafy salad, etc etc. ..........

    By the way I would love a recipe thread that is nutritious but not DIET food - I don't *need* 200 calorie meals so those recipes just annoy me.

    I've had candy several days in a row..today were kisses. I had a mini 3 musketeers one day and milky way another .I get it from random people and hang on to it for a craving.

    Because I like eating several times a day I actually like the 200 calorie "meals" but to me they are snacks and not meals per se.In any case, I do like getting ideas that are low cal. At the end of the day I still eat 2100+ 95% of the time so it isn't about "diet food" for me but about being able to EAT. I have an oral fixation thing going where i want to eat all the time.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Giiirrrls did you see this?!?! Is this the "good" tdee monitor? It is right? Omg I am terribly tempted.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/378241-get-a-bodymedia-fit-link-for-50-off-right-now-exp-10-31
  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
    Unless you're willing to correct every single entry, it's nigh on impossible for Brits on here to track sodium properly! Too few people can convert the grams our salt is measured in into the mg for mfp, plus some packaging here only has salt content, not sodium, so unless you're willing to convert, no data at all there. So, in answer to the question, I haven't the foggiest!:grumble: :laugh:
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    BUT because I eat more than 1200 calories I can have BOTH junk AND nutritious food. I had a mini snickers 2 days in a row (my coworker brought candy) and that's FINE because I also had things like vegetable soup with sausage, dark leafy salad, etc etc. ..........

    By the way I would love a recipe thread that is nutritious but not DIET food - I don't *need* 200 calorie meals so those recipes just annoy me.

    I've had candy several days in a row..today were kisses. I had a mini 3 musketeers one day and milky way another .I get it from random people and hang on to it for a craving.

    Because I like eating several times a day I actually like the 200 calorie "meals" but to me they are snacks and not meals per se.In any case, I do like getting ideas that are low cal. At the end of the day I still eat 2100+ 95% of the time so it isn't about "diet food" for me but about being able to EAT. I have an oral fixation thing going where i want to eat all the time.

    yeah you and I are opposite eaters -you like to put food in your mouth all day long and I prefer a couple big meals.
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