Cutting dairy from diet? Your thoughts...
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Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
While some people may think it's stupid to not drink milk, I think people are brainwashed into thinking they NEED milk. Not so much...0 -
Unless medically necessary, I really am cautious about any "diet program" that has you eliminating a complete food group. Make more healthy choices in that area, fine (low-fat) ... but I'd be really cautious about anything or anyone that tells you to eliminate something for reasons other than medical (or religious) reasons.
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I totally agree!! Our bodies were not designed to digest cows milk. Thats not BS, that is fact. Go ask a doctor about that one.Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
While some people may think it's stupid to not drink milk, I think people are brainwashed into thinking they NEED milk. Not so much...0 -
Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.0 -
I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan).
Complete and utter bull****.0 -
Dairy is unnecessary for a healthy human body - but still, don't think that just cutting dairy out will result in weight loss.
There are some fantastic dairy substitutes out there - assorted plant milks, dairy-free cheese, etc., but it is still important to log calories and make sure you aren't replacing them with other calorie-dense foods. However, if you cut out dairy, you will be able to use those calories for a bigger quantity of whole, tasty, nutritious foods. 0 -
I can't speak to the weight loss, but something you should keep in mind if you give it a try is watch your vitamin D. I went off milk for about six months and even though I try to eat healthy, I ended up with a vitamin D deficiency. All the other nutrients in milk you can get from other foods so if you are eating a balanced diet you should be ok giving up dairy. But vitamin D is in very few foods (mushrooms, egg yolks, a couple others) although there are foods enriched with vitamin D, like milk. Your body makes it from sunlight, too. If you want to try giving up dairy I would recommend studying up on where you can get enough vitamin D, or by taking a vitamin D + calcium supplement (calcium helps with vitamin D absorption) just to be safe. That is what I learned from my experience.0
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Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Many of us who are against drinking the cow's milk are also against eating her muscles. Just saying.0 -
I totally agree!! Our bodies were not designed to digest cows milk. Thats not BS, that is fact. Go ask a doctor about that one.Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
While some people may think it's stupid to not drink milk, I think people are brainwashed into thinking they NEED milk. Not so much...
Our bodies weren't designed at all, they evolved. Go ask a scientist.
And if you live in the United States, there's around an 85-90% chance that your ancestors evolved to drink milk.0 -
losing weight requires a caloric deficit. whether your calories are from dairy products or not does not matter. If cutting dairy from your diet results in a new caloric deficit, you wil lose weight. If you take in other type calories to replace the dairy, you wont see a change. Your body gets benefits from the fat., so switching to nonfat dairy isnt always a benefit.
This.
Also, if you're going to remove an entire food group from your diet, be sure that you're getting the nutrients you would have gotten from them some other way. I'm lactose intolerant and still wouldn't cut dairy from my diet entirely because it's a good way to get calcium. I don't use a whole lot of dairy, but I quite enjoy my Greek yogurt because it makes my stomach feel good and is loaded with protein. Honestly, in all likelihood, dairy is not the culprit of weight gain.0 -
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Many of us who are against drinking the cow's milk are also against eating her muscles. Just saying.
How is that at all relevant to the OP's question???0 -
I am anaphylactic to dairy so I have no animal based dairy products in my diet. It has no baring on my weight loss. However, the research that I have done points out that calcium plays a part in ridding you body of fat so keep that in mind if you are eliminating all dairy.0
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I don't believe people need any animal products: meat, milk, eggs in their diet at all. Just my opinionQuoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Many of us who are against drinking the cow's milk are also against eating her muscles. Just saying. 0 -
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Many of us who are against drinking the cow's milk are also against eating her muscles. Just saying.
How is that at all relevant to the OP's question???
You posted a quote that talks about how people choose not to drink dairy milk, but still choose to eat meat. I was simply addressing the quote.0 -
Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Really RonSwanson66? Do you know my father??0 -
Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Really RonSwanson66? Do you know my father??
I don't need to. Your quote was enough to demonstrate his level of knowledge.0 -
I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan). Cutting out dairy is not for everyone, but I can say from personal experience that I feel better and it has helped jump start my weight loss.
Know what else is an opiate? Poppy seeds.
No wonder lemon poppyseed muffins are SO ****ING YUMMY!0 -
Ignore Ron. I think he is just here to start a fight.Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Really RonSwanson66? Do you know my father??
I don't need to. Your quote was enough to demonstrate his level of knowledge.0 -
Ignore Ron. I think he is just here to start a fight.Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Really RonSwanson66? Do you know my father??
I don't need to. Your quote was enough to demonstrate his level of knowledge.
Discrediting bad information, day after day. It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it.0 -
And then you get the munchies and buy more muffins ... it's a vicious cycle ... *sigh* ...I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan). Cutting out dairy is not for everyone, but I can say from personal experience that I feel better and it has helped jump start my weight loss.
Know what else is an opiate? Poppy seeds.
No wonder lemon poppyseed muffins are SO ****ING YUMMY!0 -
Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
While some people may think it's stupid to not drink milk, I think people are brainwashed into thinking they NEED milk. Not so much...
I listen to a Pharmacist/Nutritionist who has his own radio show and says the same exact thing.0 -
My addiction is so strong, I have been known to hijack old ladies for their muffins. Who knows what would happen if I stopped casein cold turkey....!!!And then you get the munchies and buy more muffins ... it's a vicious cycle ... *sigh* ...I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan). Cutting out dairy is not for everyone, but I can say from personal experience that I feel better and it has helped jump start my weight loss.
Know what else is an opiate? Poppy seeds.
No wonder lemon poppyseed muffins are SO ****ING YUMMY!0 -
I cut dairy just because of my allergies and since the only cheese I eat is feta and mozzarella and soy milk I am allergy free, so worth it. Every morning I could barely breath, everything stuffed up and now... nothing... I am happy and for those benefits I am going with out my loved Gouda, Brie and Parmesan. I found cheese made out of veggies and that tastes good and is nice for sandwiches.0
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Let's not even go there ... it gives me the chills ...My addiction is so strong, I have been known to hijack old ladies for their muffins. Who knows what would happen if I stopped casein cold turkey....!!!And then you get the munchies and buy more muffins ... it's a vicious cycle ... *sigh* ...I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan). Cutting out dairy is not for everyone, but I can say from personal experience that I feel better and it has helped jump start my weight loss.
Know what else is an opiate? Poppy seeds.
No wonder lemon poppyseed muffins are SO ****ING YUMMY!0 -
I've cut back on my dairy intake but I'm not going to give it up. As a matter of fact, I'm not going to give anything up completely. That would pretty much guarantee that I set around thinking about whatever I was giving up all of the time.0
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Oh the muffin addictions are so much worse than the cheese! don't even get me started
Let's not even go there ... it gives me the chills ...My addiction is so strong, I have been known to hijack old ladies for their muffins. Who knows what would happen if I stopped casein cold turkey....!!!And then you get the munchies and buy more muffins ... it's a vicious cycle ... *sigh* ...I also recently became vegan after researching the effects of milk/dairy on the body and I definitely feel about 100x times better than I did when I ate dairy and meat. Dairy products also contain casein, a protein that breaks down into casomorphin, a naturally occurring opiate. This essentially causes us to be addicted to dairy (why I had cheese cravings hardcore for my first 3 weeks as a vegan). Cutting out dairy is not for everyone, but I can say from personal experience that I feel better and it has helped jump start my weight loss.
Know what else is an opiate? Poppy seeds.
No wonder lemon poppyseed muffins are SO ****ING YUMMY!0 -
love almond milk....nom nom.0
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Quoting my dad here, "Milk is for baby cows. Humans are the only animal that continues to drink milk after being weaned."
Quoting from someone who knows a lot more about nutrition than your dad:
"I love it when I hear folks say that human adults weren’t meant to consume milk, much less the milk derived from a different animal species. Are you kidding me? So who gets to decide which parts of the cow we should consume? Let me get this straight–we can eat the cow’s muscles, but not the milk that laid the foundation for the growth of those same muscles? Huh? The logic is just too rock-solid for me. Folks who carry the torch against milk consumption typically will have some degree of allergy or digestive intolerance to it, and they take the liberty to project their personal problems onto the world around them." ~Alan Aragon.
Really RonSwanson66? Do you know my father??
I don't need to. Your quote was enough to demonstrate his level of knowledge.
I see. And this Alan Aragon you quote is the all-knowing of nutrition. Someone who, when I do a quick search, I can't find any info about other than his own self-proclamations. Hmmm.
I honestly don't care. Drink milk. Don't drink milk. Makes me no never mind. I just find it interesting how people take another's opinion as gospel. Ultimately, that's all it is...an OPINION.0 -
I reduced the amount that I eat simply because it is calorie dense and high in fat. But I won't ever completely exclude something from my diet. I do everything in moderation. I make healthy food choices but ultimately, I eat the way I plan on eating for the rest of my life. That means enjoying all the foods I love in their "regular" (not diet) form. If I have to have cheesecake/ice cream/nachos/pizza less often, so be it. But I'm not going to completely cut them out or opt for reduced calorie/sugar/fat versions.0
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I have just added dairy BACK to my diet for the first time in 16 years...and I'm loving it. It has not impeded my weight loss in any way!0
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