Starvation mode- I'll probably regret posting...

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  • fit4mom
    fit4mom Posts: 1,352 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.
    It's not our job to change minds but rather give info. point the way and empower people to be victorious. The only person I know of to change a heart or mind is God himself, of which I am not. But I do agree that we are incapable of changing only encouraging.
  • Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.

    This is true. But, since she's asking advice, her mind probably isn't made up.

    Some people ask for advice, but then listens to nothing
  • getitamb
    getitamb Posts: 2,019 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.
    I can tell this is going nowhere so I am ending it.

    This is true. But, since she's asking advice, her mind probably isn't made up.
    [/quote I quoted that wrong but I guess that's what I get for being a smarta**.
  • jennajava
    jennajava Posts: 2,176 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.
    I can tell this is going nowhere so I am ending it.

    This is true. But, since she's asking advice, her mind probably isn't made up.

    I'm sorry, I didn't realize there was anything to end. :flowerforyou:
  • jennajava
    jennajava Posts: 2,176 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.

    This is true. But, since she's asking advice, her mind probably isn't made up.

    Some people ask for advice, but then listens to nothing

    I'm so one of those people! haha!
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?

    Maybe you should...how else will we know if its truly harmful.
  • hillm12345
    hillm12345 Posts: 313 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
  • jbinga
    jbinga Posts: 38 Member
    1200 is just a number. If you eat 1199 calories you wont be starving, just like eating 1201 won't make you fat. If you're eating mostly fruits and veggies, you will have a hard time getting 1200 calories because you will be very full but you'll have lots of nutrients in your diet. If you're eating lots of processed foods and still can't hit 1200 you're probably missing some key nutrients. Focus on quality of nutrients instead of quantity of calories.

    Love this!!!
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    Such a good question...
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    I know this is a heated topic and I know I can just click search and read a million posts on it, but I'm not going to go through them all. i've done it before.

    I don't get it.
    (and please don't give me some article that is a million pages long because I won't read it).
    Can someone please explain to me in plain english what the big deal is?

    If I eat when I'm hungry, and still don't consume 1200 calories, that's "bad"?
    But if I force myself to eat JUST because I'm told I "have" to get to 1,200 calories, then I'm training my body that I can eat "just because" and that is what got me over weight to begin with.

    Another heated topic, HCG, diet pills, etc. those are FDA approved. I know the HCG diet only allows 500 calories a day. So why is THAT ok but eating less then 1,200 calories without the HCG/etc isnt?

    I can understand if I am TRULY starving myself. Not eating when my stomach is growling so loud the entire neighborhood can hear it, just because I'm scared to gain any weight, or because I'm trying to lose weight very quickly.

    But again. isn't eating "just because" unhealthy? Why can't I eat until I'm full and not worry about forcing 1,200 calories in me if 1,000 is all needed to fill me up?


    this may be asking too much, but please no bashing or arguing. I just want it put nicely, and simple.

    If I only ate when my tummy grumbles I would probobly only get 400 cals a day since somedays I can go all day without my tummy making a peep,so im not sure that a growling tummy is the best indicator of our need for food
  • RMinVA
    RMinVA Posts: 1,085 Member
    I stand corrected. But my argument still stands. Why do I "have" to eat if I'm not hungry?

    Put simply....you don't.
  • How do you define "being hungry"? A lot of us are disconnected from our physical hunger signals. We eat by the clock, by the mere sight of food, because of people eating around us, and for emotional reasons. In other words, we don’t always eat just because we are hungry. Hunger is one of the primal forces of life. Babies cry when they’re hungry, and caretakers respond with food. This is the beginning of our personal relationship with hunger and satiety. Eating to satisfy hunger is a learned behavior. But, what if something interferes with this learning? A parent can misread signals. A baby may be fed when not hungry, but fussy or crying for other reasons. Food may be offered to a child to relieve him when he’s hurt or upset. When food is used as a distraction or reward, the child becomes confused about why we feed him. The process of learning to eat in response to physical hunger becomes interrupted. Research shows you’re actually trained how to eat by your family. Taste, smell and texture preferences are culturally learned. Being taught to use food for reward or comfort in childhood is one of the strongest shapers of adult eating behavior. While there is a genetic component to chronic dieting and overeating, it has a smaller effect than the food environment in which you grew up.

    Eating behavior specialists refer to three types of hunger:

    1.Physiological is triggered by signs, like stomach growling and headache
    2.Mouth is triggered by the sight, smell, taste, and memory of food
    3.Psychological is triggered by emotions, like anxiety, anger and sadness
  • stcar
    stcar Posts: 207 Member
    Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?
    I agree!
  • akaMrsmojo
    akaMrsmojo Posts: 762 Member
    I don't listen to my body, it listens to me. If it knew what was best I would never gained 40 pounds. I eat my calories properly and feel great, if I am under I eat a snack.

    My body doesn't like running or exercise, not listening to that either.

    Your body will follow your mind.

    I watched my mom lose her hair going under, I like my hair.
  • I checked my bmr on this site and it was under 1200. I don't think there is anything wrong with consuming only 1000 cals a day I do it often but thats because I am not hungry and I am not going to force feed myself to meet a standard created in a country full of fat people. No offense to anyone but I would have to be stupid to take diet and fitness advice from a sea of people who can't get their own weight under control. I wonder if the calorie minimum is different in other countries where obesity isn't such a problem. Does anyone know?
  • getitamb
    getitamb Posts: 2,019 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    Ok I am bored and I lied. That wasn't the end. This is a good question. Maybe I should stop playing both sides of the fence.
  • fit4mom
    fit4mom Posts: 1,352 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    Ok I am bored and I lied. That wasn't the end. This is a good question. Maybe I should stop playing both sides of the fence.
    LOL I LOVE LOVE LOVE your honesty. Awesomeness!:flowerforyou:
  • LiveEnjoyEndure
    LiveEnjoyEndure Posts: 98 Member
    Ok in simple terms... your body needs at least 1200 calories to keep your organs working properly. When you are not giving your body enough calories or a huge caloric deficit, your body is going to "think" it's starving and start retaining everything you eat in order to protect you from starvation.

    The HCG is ONLY approved as a fertility drug NOT as a weight loss supplement. There is no magic trick to weight loss, so just stick to creating a proper deficit.

    If you are not feeling hungry try to exercise more so your metabolism runs faster.

    This ^^^^ hits the nail on the head!

    You are programmed as an being to respond to your environment and behaviour... this programming is done in a variety of ways but a large factor is your endocrine system (hormones). If you do little exercise and eat little energy rich food (calories), your endocrine system will respond by storing energy as fat and slowing your metabolism right down so you need less energy (calories) to survive. Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) will be low and you will gain fat (weight) quickly.

    The opposite will be true if you eat a lot of energy rich foods and do plenty of cardio exercise (not strength exercise). Your endocrine system will respond by burning fat stores and turning energy foods you eat (calories) into glycogen and glucose. Hence you will tend to lose fat stores, feel more energized and have a high BMR... and gain weight slowly.

    *simples*
  • rileamoyer
    rileamoyer Posts: 2,412 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"


    :drinker:
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    Not everyone gained weight by pigging out
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    I checked my bmr on this site and it was under 1200. I don't think there is anything wrong with consuming only 1000 cals a day I do it often but thats because I am not hungry and I am not going to force feed myself to meet a standard created in a country full of fat people. No offense to anyone but I would have to be stupid to take diet and fitness advice from a sea of people who can't get their own weight under control. I wonder if the calorie minimum is different in other countries where obesity isn't such a problem. Does anyone know?
    Do you suspect that scientists would recommend a minimum calorie intake that would make people overweight? :noway:
  • I'm just jealous I eat 1500 calories a day and I get hungry I wish I had to force myself to eat lol, maybe you should consult your doctor or a nutritionist, check with a real expert on this.
  • lupa01
    lupa01 Posts: 162 Member
    I'm no expert on this, but I think getting at least 1,200 calories in daily is ensuring that your body receives the proper nutrition it needs. I'm not sure you'd be able to meet the daily requirements needed to fuel your body if your eating less than this. Especially if you're keeping up with a proper exercise regime.

    If you're having trouble meeting your 1200 cals/day, I would suggest using different types of healthy items to get you to that mark. Peanut butter is a great way to up your cals for the day, as well as healthy oils/fats like olive oil, almonds, avocados, etc.

    If you just don't want to eat 1,200 cals, then thats your call to make- no one else's. BUT, I can't help but say that you would just be mistreating your body in the long-run?

    ^This
  • Not trying to be rude..but if you don't think it's harmful, then try it. What's the point in asking people about it. the way you presented it sounds like you have your mind made up. How is anybody going to change your mind about it?

    So if I don't think shooting myself in the foot is harmful, I should try it?
    If u have your mind made up we can'rt change. That's all I am saying.

    This is true. But, since she's asking advice, her mind probably isn't made up.

    ^^Exactly what I was going to post after I finished reading comments. Clearly if my mind was made up, I wouldnt care what others thought about it.
  • stcar
    stcar Posts: 207 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"


    :drinker:

    Totally, I am only allowed 1200 calories and I am always starving, always. I always want more calories then that...which is why I have extra weight on me I guess. Those who struggle to eat that much??? How were you eating before joining??
  • nygiantschick
    nygiantschick Posts: 289 Member
    I guess it depends on your goals.

    Generally speaking, on average the body burns about 50 calories an hour just to function on the regular course of a day. That is where the 1200 cals minimum comes from (24*50-1,200). Now add to that various factors like body compositiion, activity level, health/medical conditions, age, pregnancy, breast feeding, etc and that number changes. If you are not hungry then as a general rule don't eat. But if you have certain goals like losing a certain amount of weight or gaining a certain amount of weight or building muscle mass, then you do need to feed your body accordingly-sometimes even if you aren't hungry- like some athletes or bodybuilders, etc. (and those should be quality calories derived from healthy sources as so many others have stated- lean protein, fruits, veggies, complex carbs, etc.).

    I think bogging down into the details of the numbers can become frustrating. Wild animals aren't counting calories!!! Lions know when it's time to eat, fish know when it's time to eat, birds know when it's time to eat. Once people learn their bodies and the signals I think they should follow them as it WORKS BEST FOR THEM. Somedays you may only eat 800 cals and some 1500. As long as your approach to food is a healthy one and you are not ignoring those cues/signals, you should be good.
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    I checked my bmr on this site and it was under 1200. I don't think there is anything wrong with consuming only 1000 cals a day I do it often but thats because I am not hungry and I am not going to force feed myself to meet a standard created in a country full of fat people. No offense to anyone but I would have to be stupid to take diet and fitness advice from a sea of people who can't get their own weight under control. I wonder if the calorie minimum is different in other countries where obesity isn't such a problem. Does anyone know?
    This is an international site, the goals do not change based on your locale. If you consider this to be a sea of people who can't get their own weight under control, you are seriously ignorant.
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    No offense to anyone but I would have to be stupid to take diet and fitness advice from a sea of people who can't get their own weight under control.
    You are assuming that every person on this site is overweight and is having no success at changing that?
  • I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    I gained from junk food. sure I can eat a bunch of crap and easily make it over 1,200 calories. but eating clean its a lot harder
  • CaptainGordo
    CaptainGordo Posts: 4,437 Member
    I guess my question is... for those on here looking to lose weight saying that they can't possibly eat more than 1200 calories a day, how did you end up with extra weight to lose in the first place?

    Maybe i'm the only one... but I certainly didn't gain this extra 20 lbs by "eating only when I'm hungry"
    Not everyone gained weight by pigging out
    True. I did though. :drinker:
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