Do you consider this exercise?
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I cannot imagine why you "need" to put in your 2 cents, nor why you care what other people are doing in their own personal logs.
Ditto.
If someone counts those things and it works for that person (even if it doesn't!), then it's nunya.0 -
No I do not count those... they are built into my daily routine/lifestyle.0
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If no one makes a workout DVD, or weightloss-based program from it, then it's safe to say it's probably not much of a workout. That's my 2 cents. :flowerforyou:0
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I wonder how many calories you burn while making a Pine Cone Bird Feeder?0
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The only thing I bother logging in terms of cleaning, etc. is sweeping. Doing that for an hour can be a workout in and of itself, but I generally don't eat the calories from it.0
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the entire point of this thread is to get other peoples opinions or "two cents"...........I cannot imagine why you "need" to put in your 2 cents, nor why you care what other people are doing in their own personal logs.0 -
Cooking, cleaning and general housework should be subsumed into your original estimate of how active you are. Sounds like your acitivity WITHOUT additional working out would be considered "moderately active", or about the same as that of a nurse. Now beyond that, if you are moving furniture, shoveling snow or mowing the lawn - things you don't do routinely - you can count those things as exercise. The best way to get a handle on your real activity level is to wear a pedometer. 10,000 steps a day is considered very active; 7500 is moderately active. For example, I usually log 10,000 a day which makes me very active. That is built into my daily calorie allowance. Every thing I do beyond that, such as Zumba or strength training, is counted as additional. I hope this helps. Most Americans only get in something less than 5,000 steps a day -- which explains alot. Go back to the original assumptions you made about your calorie needs and see if you need to make adjustments.0
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Honestly, I think it's totally acceptable to log cleaning if it's one of those times that you overhaul your house. I know I can work up quite a sweat! However, let's be honest - like everyone is saying - taking out the trash or going to the washroom are normal activities of daily living. If anything, count them as an unlogged bonus and move on! Don't sell yourself short, but certainly don't overlog or you'll never see results!!!
The trash part all depends, The dumpsters where I live are pretty far. I might consider this only because when I do my walking, it is just as far. it's about a quarter of a mile away, so there and back is half a mile. If I were taking out a lot of trash...back and forth could add up to over a mile. For me, that is out of my normal activity. especially have to bring a kid and pull a wagon or stoller with a kid in it. but if your trash can is out side the door, or in the back yard, then I could see not adding it.0 -
If no one makes a workout DVD, or weightloss-based program from it, then it's safe to say it's probably not much of a workout. That's my 2 cents. :flowerforyou:
LMAO-I can just see it now! High Impact Vacuuming!0 -
I wear a pedometer. My goal is a minimum of 10,000 steps per day. In the house, in the parking lot, up the mountain, or at the gym, or walking the halls at the hospital. I think it all adds up. HOWEVER.....I don't believe you can only walk your hallways or take out the trash and think that's exercise. You have to get your heart rate up and sweat and work hard. Like the gym, or hiking, or running.0
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Well let me chime in here. I just deep cleaned my house today. Mopped, vacuumed (including under beds) cleaned all the bathrooms and kitchen. This wasn't the normal, daily picking up that I do but a whole house clean. I wore my HRM while I did this for 4 hours and burned 799 calories. My activity level on here is set to sedentary and I sure as heck was NOT sedentary for those 4 hours. So I back out my existence calories for that time period and it's an extra 605 calories I burned today. You better believe I'm counting THAT.
Now, I do not count cooking dinner, picking up the house, taking out the trash, doing laundry, but over and above like today? You bet it's exercise.
I agree! I wore my HRM last weekend and did the same thing. I burned close to 800 calories. I scrubbed my apartment from floor to ceiling and you better believe I logged that as exercise!!0 -
I wonder how many calories you burn while making a Pine Cone Bird Feeder?
ROFL.
I think this high impact activity would burn hundreds of calories. Shall I pass you the compensatory chocolate box?0 -
Some people do if they weigh what is considered morbidly obese. You have to take that into consideration when someone weighs what four or five "average" sized people weigh. Not moving at all is probably what got them to that weight. If someone wants to count cleaning and shopping as exercise and that is the only time they move in a whole week, let them. Why worry about someone else's weight loss or lack of unless they come to you for help though?0
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I put cleaning house when I clean other people's houses because I used to do it as a side job once in awhile, and it'd be scrubbing huge 2 story houses. Should I not be logging that just because you say I'm being lazy and want to get every calorie in?0
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I cannot imagine why you "need" to put in your 2 cents, nor why you care what other people are doing in their own personal logs.
^^this! Everyone logs/doesn't log what they feel is right for them. For some people cleaning or cooking isn't something they do on a regular basis and when they do it they definitely burn extra calories, I'm pretty sure if you burned next to 0 calories doing that stuff then it wouldn't be in the database. I'm lucky and my bf generally cleans the house so when it's my turn I definitely log the calories since it's not something I do on a "regular day".
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The search function is your friend. This has been done to death.
The long and short of it is, if you dont' want to log it, don't. Don't worry about what other people do. Your life will be much simpler when you focus on yourself instead of other people. Trust me on this.
^^THIS^^^
I'm a bit shocked by some responses to this thread..... If someone logs something I don't log, I let them get on with it.. Just as they would with me. I don't get why people are moaning about other peoples habits. I focus on my own and that's all that matters in the end.0 -
I counted my cleaning yesterday, but because it was a deep clean, and not the stuff I do every day. Washing up etc I dont count, I also dont count how often I go up and down the stairs with a 12lb baby, because Id have to do it anyway. If I can do it comfortably in my pajamas, its not excercise.0
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I would say it depends on how your activity level is set up. If you have yourself as sedentary and vacuum for two hours I would say that counts as exercise!
vacuuming is exercise? come on people. this is why america is fat.
You've obviously never spent much time vacuuming. I think its really funny that some people think exercise has to include going to a gym. I the old days people never went to gyms but they spent all day doing manual labor and they
were in much better shape than those of us who sit at desks for most of the day and spend one hour at the gym.0 -
WWJD...........what would Jillian do?0
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I would say it depends on how your activity level is set up. If you have yourself as sedentary and vacuum for two hours I would say that counts as exercise!
vacuuming is exercise? come on people. this is why america is fat.
or maybe this is why you people are all on this site. just saying. maybe we shouldn't nitpick at each other because we all have bad habits and we're all trying to change them.0 -
I cannot imagine why you "need" to put in your 2 cents, nor why you care what other people are doing in their own personal logs.
^^this! Everyone logs/doesn't log what they feel is right for them. For some people cleaning or cooking isn't something they do on a regular basis and when they do it they definitely burn extra calories, I'm pretty sure if you burned next to 0 calories doing that stuff then it wouldn't be in the database. I'm lucky and my bf generally cleans the house so when it's my turn I definitely log the calories since it's not something I do on a "regular day".
To each there own. :flowerforyou:
I totally agree!!! I'm not sure why some people are getting so ugly about it. I don't log those things (I have an at home daycare so the cleaning is seriously never-ending!), but who am I to get all pissy because someone decided to log "toasting bread"? If they don't lose weight, then let them deal with the consequences...it's not a competition, no one's cheating you out of YOUR burn, so get over it.0 -
I wonder how many calories you burn while making a Pine Cone Bird Feeder?
ROFL.
I think this high impact activity would burn hundreds of calories. Shall I pass you the compensatory chocolate box?
ARE YOU TRYING TO SABOTAGE ME??
*mmmmmm, chocolate*0 -
i lost all my weight so far by walking and doing extra cleaning and gardening... its miles to a gym here and anyway we can't afford it. if it is extra to your normal daily life and works for you, log it i say0
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I don't generally log cleaning as exercise unless it's a "gut the room, clean it from top to bottom (dusting, vacuuming, carpet cleaning, windows, etc....) move the furniture back in" type of cleaning. It would have to be non-stop heavy activity for 2 plus hours and at that I only log it as about 30 min of cleaning. I'm sure people have thought why is she logging 30 minutes of cleaning, but it's really not, it was really 2 hours.
To each his own I guess. I don't disagree with others for what they log as activity. If they log it and then wonder why they are losing weight - then that's their issue. If they want to fool us they could be very well calculating out what they think they burned and then logging it as walking or calisthenics.0 -
I would say it depends on how your activity level is set up. If you have yourself as sedentary and vacuum for two hours I would say that counts as exercise!
vacuuming is exercise? come on people. this is why america is fat.
I dont quite think logging vacuuming is a reason why America is fat... I joined this site to monitor my progress, calories and exercise. I dont log cleaning or even deep cleaning that I am working up a sweat after, I just consider it "extra." If someone else wants too, that is them, this is why my diary is closed, too many people judging others instead of worring about themselves... (flame away, send the hate mail, but eveyone had an opinion and the right to them. :bigsmile:0 -
Why do people always respond to these types of posts with things like "mind your own business"?!
i mean, if you are making your food intake and exercise output PUBLIC and letting other people read it, how can you say "pay attention to me, but don't give me any constructive criticism".
I THINK the reason people keep bringing up this topic is because:
1) it is frustrating to think that i just biked almost 17 miles per hour for 70 minutes and i burned 750 calories while someone else drove/cooked/cleaned/etc and THAT burned the same amount of calories?!?!
2)people are being mislead... thinking they can eat a ridiculous amount of extra calories for no good reason (since MFP adds them to your daily allowable intake). these same people may become frustrated with a lack of success... if i logged EVERY activity i did for one day i gaurentee you i would be told to eat at least 4000 calories hahahha and i would get FATTER.
that being said....
if a person is truly obese and sedantary i can see why they might want to track their 'daily activities' if they feel they are really pushing themselves .... still.. you better not eat back calories for these things!!!0 -
not unless it is going above and beyond.... Spring cleaning etc....0
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i would consider taking out the trash some exercise in certain circumstances. or shoveling snow.. why? because my driveway is about a mile long... walking or running to the end of the driveway, heck yeah, i will log that because my driveway is long. lol0
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I log my weekend cleaning - sweeping, vacuuming, running up and down the stairs with multiple loads of laundry, but I don't log the everyday picking up and putting away, cooking, or loading the dishwasher. If it takes less than 10 minutes, it just isn't worth logging anyway - unless it is a full sprint back up the lane for a missing set of gloves for the kiddos and back with the bus pulling into sight - I should get points somehwere for those days, right? But no, I guess I really don't log that either.
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I dont consider cooking and cleaning as exercise. That is normal activity. I could see if you were moving boxes to clean a basement or garage because that could be a workout for some. I do kinda wonder when someone claims food prep daily and cleaning daily as odd.... then ontop of that they do not disclose the food diary. Why bother? But I guess its not for me to judge.
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