Does coffee count for water?

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  • QueenJayJay
    QueenJayJay Posts: 1,139
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    One difference I noticed between drinking two cups of coffee vs two cups of water - when I donate blood and all I've had is coffee with breakfast in the morning, they have a VERY hard time getting a vein, and if they do, the donation goes super S L O W! First time this happened they asked if I'd had any water yet that day. Oops. I was in the chair longer than anyone else in the room and took forever to get that pint of blood.

    I found that drinking plenty of water before a donation makes the whole proces much, much faster - easy stick to get the vein, and the pint fills up much quicker - the blood bank was happy (so was I!).

    So I'd say that the coffee doesn't hydrate as well as plain ol' water does. That's my non-expert-go-by-my-own-observation-and-experience opinion of this debate. :tongue:

    :drinker:
  • QueenJayJay
    QueenJayJay Posts: 1,139
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    Pretty sure this has nothing to do with hydration levels, as much as it does the caffeine constricting your blood vessels.

    Not always.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/395736-does-caffeine-constrict-blood-vessels/
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
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    Guys, guys...let me try to explain.

    The purpose of this thread was to find out if drinking water counts towards your daily hydration target. And, as my original post proved, with research, yes, it does.

    So many people here believe taht the original "drink 8 cups of water a day" means actual, NEAT water. It didn't. That was never the intended message. If you read the links, youll see where that quote original came from, back in the 1940s. You'll also see what the next line was. "Most of which we get from our daily food and fluid intake".

    So, while ofc coffee isnt water, like meat isnt bread, when talking about your 8 cups of fluid, yes, it counts as much as pure water, milk, juice, soda, etc.


    It's clear that many people here just hit reply without actually reading the thread, so let me quote myself for the hard of reading.
    As for coffee being a diuretic, so many people just spout that word as a reason, without actually understanding what "diuretic" means.

    di·u·ret·ic (d-rtk)
    adj.
    Tending to increase the discharge of urine.
    n.
    A substance or drug that tends to increase the discharge of urine.

    Neat water is also a diuretic. The diuretic effect of caffeine is far, far outweighed by the actual water in the tea/coffee. Also, regular consumers of caffeinated beverages will build up a tolerance to said effect, eventually reaching the point where caffeinated drinks provide practically the same amount of hydration as a cup of neat water will.


    http://www.divinecaroline.com/22178/46361-coffee-makes-dehydrated-say-what

    http://worldofcaffeine.com/2011/06/14/caffeine-does-not-dehydrate/

    http://advance.uconn.edu/2002/020722/02072207.htm

    http://nomoredirtylooks.com/2011/04/surprise-caffeinated-tea-does-not-dehydrate-you/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/health/nutrition/04real.html

    http://www.sharecare.com/question/does-caffeine-dehydrate-not

    http://www.artofdrink.com/2009/12/caffeine-in-coffee-does-not-increase-dehydration-during-hangovers.php

    http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/cancer/nutrition/questions/do-caffeinated-beverages-cause-dehydration.htm

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=5552790&page=1#.TrQWc0O5_oo

    That proves, far more than anyone else can disprove, that coffee does NOT dehydrate you. Many people, myself included, drink NOTHING BUT tea/coffee. If your odd dehydration rumours were true, we would have died a long time ago.

    So people, please, remember its 8 cups of fluid a day, not neat water. You think a cup of coffee and a cup of water stay that way in our stomachs? Ofc not! They get mixed up like anything else.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
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    One difference I noticed between drinking two cups of coffee vs two cups of water - when I donate blood and all I've had is coffee with breakfast in the morning, they have a VERY hard time getting a vein, and if they do, the donation goes super S L O W! First time this happened they asked if I'd had any water yet that day. Oops. I was in the chair longer than anyone else in the room and took forever to get that pint of blood.

    I found that drinking plenty of water before a donation makes the whole proces much, much faster - easy stick to get the vein, and the pint fills up much quicker - the blood bank was happy (so was I!).

    So I'd say that the coffee doesn't hydrate as well as plain ol' water does. That's my non-expert-go-by-my-own-observation-and-experience opinion of this debate. :tongue:
    Pretty sure this has nothing to do with hydration levels, as much as it does the caffeine constricting your blood vessels.
    Maybe, but when I donate now, I still have my two cups of coffee in the morning, but also make sure I've had a couple of glasses of water as well. Makes all the difference in the world. I also find that if I drink coffee or iced tea all day long and no plain water, I am extremely thirsty by the end of the day. Just my experience.
  • dobenjam
    dobenjam Posts: 232 Member
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    Coffee is not water.

    Water is water.



    LOL, best response EVER!!

    Straight to the point,

    How do you make coffee? A lot of water and a little bit of coffee grinds.

    How do you make a scoth and water? Guess that counts too...
  • MassiveDelta
    MassiveDelta Posts: 3,311 Member
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    If my arm is trapped under a heavy rock in the middle of the high sierra desert and Im unable to get free....Does urine count as water?
  • NewVonnie
    NewVonnie Posts: 683 Member
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    If my arm is trapped under a heavy rock in the middle of the high sierra desert and Im unable to get free....Does urine count as water?

    No idea, but it IS sterile...so drink up...Bear Gyrlls said so...and he knows these things. :wink:
  • dobenjam
    dobenjam Posts: 232 Member
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    If my arm is trapped under a heavy rock in the middle of the high sierra desert and Im unable to get free....Does urine count as water?

    No idea, but it IS sterile...so drink up...Bear Gyrlls said so...and he knows these things. :wink:

    And he does these things... out of the skin of a recently dead snake... Totally awesome and gross at the same time.
  • ichorica
    ichorica Posts: 475 Member
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    Coffee is not water.

    Water is water.
    This made me giggle.
    Are you having trouble drinking 8 cups a day?
  • HMonsterX
    HMonsterX Posts: 3,000 Member
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    Coffee is not water.

    Water is water.
    This made me giggle.
    Are you having trouble drinking 8 cups a day?

    Thankfully there is no need to drink any cups of NEAT WATER a day.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
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    If you go to Dunkin Donuts, they seem to think that Water counts for Coffee.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    So, if I drink 1 cup of coffee in the morning does that mean I can mark 1 cup of water down for the day? Just curious.

    Well, let's think about this logically. Did you make it with water? If yes, and you consumed the water, then what reason is there not to log it?
  • QueenJayJay
    QueenJayJay Posts: 1,139
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    Coffee is not water.

    Water is water.
    This made me giggle.
    Are you having trouble drinking 8 cups a day?

    Me? No.
  • _GlaDOS_
    _GlaDOS_ Posts: 1,520 Member
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    I have always been curious about this as well. So basically everyone seems to be 50/50. Only one person has come back with actual articles regarding this. Guess I will go with their opinion or maybe I will just continue to be curious about this topic. LOL

    It's not opinion.

    Coffee is not water.

    Flour is not bread.

    Chicken is not beef.

    ...it's not rocket science.

    These are not accurate analogies.

    If you are counting how many servings of water you consume, you would count coffee, because coffee contains water.

    If you were counting how many servings of flour you consumed, then you would count bread, because bread has flour in it.

    If you were counting how many servings of meat you consume, you could count chicken, because it is meat.

    It really isn't rocket science! :flowerforyou:
  • onefitdiva
    onefitdiva Posts: 331 Member
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    WOW, people really can get fired up over anything, can't they??

    Everyone thinks they can GOOGLE better then the next guy. LMFAO

    Best answer here and for many of the other threads!! lmbo. :laugh: :laugh:
  • CakeFit21
    CakeFit21 Posts: 2,521 Member
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    If you go to Dunkin Donuts, they seem to think that Water counts for Coffee.


    :heart:
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
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    Of couse it does. so does the water contnet in your food and the melted ice in your Bourbon on the Rocks.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
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    Coffee is not water.

    Water is water.



    LOL, best response EVER!!

    Straight to the point,

    How do you make coffee? A lot of water and a little bit of coffee grinds.

    How do you make a scoth and water? Guess that counts too...

    It can. :smile:
    Same article I linked from the Mayo Clinic says alcohol can count although it should not be a large part of your daily consumption of fluids.
    Of course the amount of alcohol to water may make a difference as alcohol is a diuretic. Too much alcohol and not enough water mix can lead to dehydration.
    In the middle ages people often drank alcoholic beverages as water was unclean.

    (seriously, I got dressed for the gym and have my sneakers on, I am going, it just raining and I want to stay)
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
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    Pretty sure this has nothing to do with hydration levels, as much as it does the caffeine constricting your blood vessels.

    Not always.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/395736-does-caffeine-constrict-blood-vessels/
    Ah yes, Livestrong...the site where you can find articles in direct conflict with each other....and it's full of nonsense bro-science, such as the thinking that coffee doesn't hydrate you as well as water.
  • MissMaryMac33
    MissMaryMac33 Posts: 1,433 Member
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    And this tired discussion is the reason they need rename that damn thing "Fluids" instead of "Water".
    Good grief... any fluid counts as your "water" --- but if it has caloried you need to log those too. No brainer.

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