Does coffee count for water?
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This is silliness. I guess you failed to read any of that fact based information in the beginning of the thread.Drink an extra cup of pure water a day for every cup of coffee .
I read a quote by Abraham Lincoln on another post where he says not to believe things you read on the internet .
"The difficult thing with quotes on the internet is verifying them" - Abraham Lincoln0 -
If losing water weight is important to you, keep up the good work. I prefer fat loss, myself. But I'm probably nuts for that.If I drink 64 ounces of water a day , I lose more weight than if I only drink other fluids containing water and count the calories . Maybe someone should study me and publish the results so this information would be relevant .0 -
You are grossly misinformed, sir. The diuretic quality of caffeine does NOT negate the hydrating effect of water content in, for example, coffee. Water itself is a diuretic. Water recommendations are in fact...for total water content of food and drink. See here, Mayo Clinic:Water is water.
Just because it went through a coffee maker with added caffeine, or you added some Crystal light, or lemon, a tea bag, or whatever to it - doesn't mean it's no longer water.
If you added calories - count those, but that wasn't the question.
No , most foods are water based ( thus food dehydrators) . Water recommendations are for water in addition to what you may have with water in it . In regards to adding flavorings to water , all of them have side effects that were not intended with the recommendation of pure water , i.e caffeine being a diuretic .Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.
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"I like big butts and I cannot lie." - Abraham Lincoln
This is silliness. I guess you failed to read any of that fact based information in the beginning of the thread.Drink an extra cup of pure water a day for every cup of coffee .
I read a quote by Abraham Lincoln on another post where he says not to believe things you read on the internet .
"The difficult thing with quotes on the internet is verifying them" - Abraham Lincoln0 -
You are grossly misinformed, sir. The diuretic quality of caffeine does NOT negate the hydrating effect of water content in, for example, coffee. Water itself is a diuretic. Water recommendations are in fact...for total water content of food and drink. See here, Mayo Clinic:Water is water.
Just because it went through a coffee maker with added caffeine, or you added some Crystal light, or lemon, a tea bag, or whatever to it - doesn't mean it's no longer water.
If you added calories - count those, but that wasn't the question.
No , most foods are water based ( thus food dehydrators) . Water recommendations are for water in addition to what you may have with water in it . In regards to adding flavorings to water , all of them have side effects that were not intended with the recommendation of pure water , i.e caffeine being a diuretic .Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.
This is pretty well established medically, and I can't quite believe it's still being debated on this site. Drink liquids. They're good. I have no trouble drinking lots of fresh, pure water - it's good stuff. But there's nothing 'wrong' with tea or coffee. The additional diuretic effect of tea or coffee is so miniscule as to have no effect on the vast majority of people. The only cases where this has been demonstrated to be worth even thinking about is people who have experienced conditions like congestive heart failure. For the bulk of the population, get your hydration howeever you wish, just make sure you stay hydrated.0 -
Yes, in fact it would. Obviously sodium does dehydrate your body though, so if you're drinking way over your sodium intake with salt water...you'll be dehydrated. I see what you tried to do though, better luck next time.
You are grossly misinformed, sir. The diuretic quality of caffeine does NOT negate the hydrating effect of water content in, for example, coffee. Water itself is a diuretic. Water recommendations are in fact...for total water content of food and drink. See here, Mayo Clinic:Water is water.
Just because it went through a coffee maker with added caffeine, or you added some Crystal light, or lemon, a tea bag, or whatever to it - doesn't mean it's no longer water.
If you added calories - count those, but that wasn't the question.
No , most foods are water based ( thus food dehydrators) . Water recommendations are for water in addition to what you may have with water in it . In regards to adding flavorings to water , all of them have side effects that were not intended with the recommendation of pure water , i.e caffeine being a diuretic .Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.
Would this include salt water ?0 -
coffee + water = liquid sanity
but thats just me :drinker:0 -
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Sorry messed this up .0 -
Yes, in fact it would. Obviously sodium does dehydrate your body though, so if you're drinking way over your sodium intake with salt water...you'll be dehydrated. I see what you tried to do though, better luck next time.
You are grossly misinformed, sir. The diuretic quality of caffeine does NOT negate the hydrating effect of water content in, for example, coffee. Water itself is a diuretic. Water recommendations are in fact...for total water content of food and drink. See here, Mayo Clinic:Water is water.
Just because it went through a coffee maker with added caffeine, or you added some Crystal light, or lemon, a tea bag, or whatever to it - doesn't mean it's no longer water.
If you added calories - count those, but that wasn't the question.
No , most foods are water based ( thus food dehydrators) . Water recommendations are for water in addition to what you may have with water in it . In regards to adding flavorings to water , all of them have side effects that were not intended with the recommendation of pure water , i.e caffeine being a diuretic .Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.
Would this include salt water ?
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example . Anyone that has ever binged on alcohol can attest to the dehydration they endure the next day which adds quite a bit of the symptoms of a hangover . Pure water is the best with zero drawbacks .
( ... and it was George Washington that couldn't tell a lie about liking big butts , not Abraham Lincoln )0 -
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If I drink 64 ounces of water a day , I lose more weight than if I only drink other fluids containing water and count the calories . Maybe someone should study me and publish the results so this information would be relevant .
How would that be relevant to anyone but you? And have you really tried every other type of fluid??0 -
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example .
Does that mean that if I eat a salty food shortly before or after drinking water, I can't count the water?0 -
If I drink 64 ounces of water a day , I lose more weight than if I only drink other fluids containing water and count the calories . Maybe someone should study me and publish the results so this information would be relevant .
How would that be relevant to anyone but you? And have you really tried every other type of fluid??
See , I anticipated your reaction there , thus the request for a study , otherwise my offerings are purely anecdotal and useless to anyone except a true research professional . I am in the process now as a layman in testing all fluids having worked myself up to battery acid but as you can probably understand the side effects are working havoc on my cognitive ability .0 -
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example .
Does that mean that if I eat a salty food shortly before or after drinking water, I can't count the water?
No , that means the water you are drinking is to flush from your system things you have ingested in excess as well as the byproducts of your body burning calories in its normal operation .0 -
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example .
Does that mean that if I eat a salty food shortly before or after drinking water, I can't count the water?
No , that means the water you are drinking is to flush from your system things you have ingested in excess as well as the byproducts of your body burning calories in its normal operation .
This is even more necessary when you body is in stress , burning stored fuel ( fat and / or muscle ) , or when you are damaging muscle tissue with intensive workouts trying to bulk up .0 -
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example .
Does that mean that if I eat a salty food shortly before or after drinking water, I can't count the water?
No , that means the water you are drinking is to flush from your system things you have ingested in excess as well as the byproducts of your body burning calories in its normal operation .
Why is the salt different if it's on a chip or in the water?0 -
Yes, in fact it would. Obviously sodium does dehydrate your body though, so if you're drinking way over your sodium intake with salt water...you'll be dehydrated. I see what you tried to do though, better luck next time.
You are grossly misinformed, sir. The diuretic quality of caffeine does NOT negate the hydrating effect of water content in, for example, coffee. Water itself is a diuretic. Water recommendations are in fact...for total water content of food and drink. See here, Mayo Clinic:Water is water.
Just because it went through a coffee maker with added caffeine, or you added some Crystal light, or lemon, a tea bag, or whatever to it - doesn't mean it's no longer water.
If you added calories - count those, but that wasn't the question.
No , most foods are water based ( thus food dehydrators) . Water recommendations are for water in addition to what you may have with water in it . In regards to adding flavorings to water , all of them have side effects that were not intended with the recommendation of pure water , i.e caffeine being a diuretic .Everyone has heard the advice, "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day." That's about 1.9 liters, which isn't that different from the Institute of Medicine recommendations. Although the "8 by 8" rule isn't supported by hard evidence, it remains popular because it's easy to remember. Just keep in mind that the rule should be reframed as: "Drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of fluid a day," because all fluids count toward the daily total.
Would this include salt water ?
Exactly , sodium added to the water negates the desired effect of the water , sodium being the extreme example . Anyone that has ever binged on alcohol can attest to the dehydration they endure the next day which adds quite a bit of the symptoms of a hangover . Pure water is the best with zero drawbacks .
( ... and it was George Washington that couldn't tell a lie about liking big butts , not Abraham Lincoln )
Its **** like this sextuple quote with a 3 paragraph answer that makes MFP great........................0 -
WATER FIGHT !!!!!0
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Darn you Bumper!!!! Couldn't just let it die could you? :-)0
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Okay, since everyone on the site except me apparently has put in their two cents, I just have to post now too. And I did indeed read ALL 9 PAGES of posts. Wow. You would think we were debating religion... my thoughts on both are the same.
Drink whatever works for you.
I will drink what works for me, and I trust Snopes and the Mayo clinic because I detest plain water. Coffee, green tea, green, black or herbal iced tea, diet coke, water with Mio... I drink a lot and I pee a lot. And count any extra calories.
Whatever gets you to drink more fluids is the point. And it ALL counts. And I promise you can count and believe whatever you like and I won't try to force it on you. It's only my opinion. If you only want to count pure water, by all means - that is perfectly okay with me.
End of discussion... (but I bet not!!!)0 -
how can anyone "detest" plain water. good clean water has no taste. you need to check your water supply.0
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Exactly correct. Drinking pure water isn't a necessity at all. I do drink it myself, because I like it...but it is not something someone should 'force' themselves to do.Okay, since everyone on the site except me apparently has put in their two cents, I just have to post now too. And I did indeed read ALL 9 PAGES of posts. Wow. You would think we were debating religion... my thoughts on both are the same.
Drink whatever works for you.
I will drink what works for me, and I trust Snopes and the Mayo clinic because I detest plain water. Coffee, green tea, green, black or herbal iced tea, diet coke, water with Mio... I drink a lot and I pee a lot. And count any extra calories.
Whatever gets you to drink more fluids is the point. And it ALL counts. And I promise you can count and believe whatever you like and I won't try to force it on you. It's only my opinion. If you only want to count pure water, by all means - that is perfectly okay with me.
End of discussion... (but I bet not!!!)0 -
Some people enjoy a flavor in their drinks....I drink plenty of regular filtered water myself, but there are times when I'd prefer something with some flavor to it, why does this seem to perturb you?how can anyone "detest" plain water. good clean water has no taste. you need to check your water supply.0 -
Some people enjoy a flavor in their drinks....I drink plenty of regular filtered water myself, but there are times when I'd prefer something with some flavor to it, why does this seem to perturb you?how can anyone "detest" plain water. good clean water has no taste. you need to check your water supply.
adding a flavor is fine. do it myself. but that wasnt my question.0 -
So, if I drink 1 cup of coffee in the morning does that mean I can mark 1 cup of water down for the day? Just curious.
Hell yeah it coumts!!! I mean its made with water. Whats the difference with coffee than with sweetner you put in water.?? Its your own preference really. I count it but still drink a gallon. I count it in my protein shakes too..0 -
Why is the salt different if it's on a chip or in the water?
( See , I didn't quote everything , cognitive abilities not quite beyond reach )
The salt is the same regardless of where it is found , that is not the question , the recommendation to drink water is to help rid the body of things it has in excess or byproducts of the natural life cycle . 64 ounces of water has been established as a good guideline for the amount the body needs to rid itself of these things. If you add ingredients to the water , you negate some of the positive results you are trying to achieve by ingesting the water in the first place . How much you negate the waters positive influence depends upon the additive , therefore water without additives would be best to fulfill the 64 oz recommendation . I mentioned as illustration in a previous post the extremes of salt water (don't drink ocean water if you are lost at sea ) and alcohol , both of which dehydrate you.0 -
Anyone on here ever heard of chemistry? Just sayin'0
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I died once from drinking water.
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My rule is: If you can't see through it in a clear glass, you can't count it as water.
While it will hydrate you, plain water will help the most.
I can see through a giant glass of vodka perfectly! I just wanted to point that out. :-)
This makes me giggle terribly.
Just what I needed after a rough day!!! LOL 0 -
Anything that starts as water I count as water ,One comment is dont worried about it just drink 8 glasses of water .Thats great if you like water I hate it Im 56 and probally till I started this a few months ago drank maybe 20 ounces of water a week for my whole life. Im a tea drinker .Iced hot doesnt matter and yes I use splenda .I like crystal light ,and generic grape packets,my doctor says I started with a bottle of wate rit still is a bottle of water ,it didnt instantly turn in to diet soda ,which by the way helped when I laid off that .We all have differant views ,.This is just mine .I know I need to get some liguids in because the loss is better when I do. But I do count it all .0
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