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jacksonpt
jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
*gets on his soap box*

"Because it works for me" is not a good reason to give advice.
Because you read it somewhere (even here on MFP) is not a good reason to give advice.
Because your doctor or some other perceived expert said it is not a good reason to give advice.

You should only be giving advice if you *gasp* actually know what your talking about, if you actually understand the concepts being discussed.

There is A TOOON of info on MFP. Most of it is bad, or at least irrelevant without some context (which is rarely provided) to frame the advice being given.

People post on these boards looking for help getting healthy. Far too often people give them advice which is regurgitated crap the read/heard somewhere else. Sometimes it's based on the adviser's personal experience.

Guess what... the OP of that question is not you, so your experience has virtually no bearing on their question.

So the only way to have a meaningful (not to mention helpful) conversation is to actually understand the concepts behind the question/advice and discuss those concepts as they relate to the person in question, which means you also have to take the time to understand the question being asked.

You have to understand the big picture before you can discuss the smaller elements.

*steps down*
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  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
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  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    I wish that gif had audio!
  • SinIsIn
    SinIsIn Posts: 1,865 Member
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    :laugh:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
    I don't understand?

    So if someone asks a question we are not supposed to respond?

    I didn't know that. Thanks for the post. :noway:
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    So, basically if anyone wants good information, they're supposed to contact you? Well, unless they need spelling and grammar help. You start a thread sure to cause drama, yet your profile says you try to stay out of drama. I love irony.
  • Carl01
    Carl01 Posts: 9,307 Member
    I like pie.
  • hausofnichele
    hausofnichele Posts: 531 Member
    I'm just curious .... who is qualified to answer these questions according to you?
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    So, basically if anyone wants good information, they're supposed to contact you? Well, unless they need spelling and grammar help. You start a thread sure to cause drama, yet your profile says you try to stay out of drama. I love irony.
    Not at all. There are a lot of people on the boards who know this stuff inside out and backwards. Those are the people who should be doing the bulk of the posting around here, not the "you should eat your exercise calories because I do and it works for me" people.

    If you're not going to support your advice with science, or at least logic, then don't post.
  • dane11235813
    dane11235813 Posts: 682 Member
    i like turtles





    OP is right though....way too many "my cousin is a trainer and he said to do this...." kind of comments on here.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    SQUIRREL!
  • JDMPWR
    JDMPWR Posts: 1,863 Member
    So, basically if anyone wants good information, they're supposed to contact you? Well, unless they need spelling and grammar help. You start a thread sure to cause drama, yet your profile says you try to stay out of drama. I love irony.
    Not at all. There are a lot of people on the boards who know this stuff inside out and backwards. Those are the people who should be doing the bulk of the posting around here, not the "you should eat your exercise calories because I do and it works for me" people.

    If you're not going to support your advice with science, or at least logic, then don't post.

    *Hands him the MFP police badge*
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    I'm just curious .... who is qualified to answer these questions according to you?

    People who actually know what they are talking about. People who actually understand the concept of exercise calories or starvation mode or metabolism or whatever else is in question. NOT people who simply repeat what they read in a previous thread.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Not at all. There are a lot of people on the boards who know this stuff inside out and backwards. Those are the people who should be doing the bulk of the posting around here, not the "you should eat your exercise calories because I do and it works for me" people.
    If you're not going to support your advice with science, or at least logic, then don't post.
    What's wrong with answering a question with "this works for me"? Who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't post? Unless you're a new mod of whom I'm not aware.
  • hausofnichele
    hausofnichele Posts: 531 Member
    *Hands him the MFP police badge*

    :laugh:
  • bmkx0
    bmkx0 Posts: 308
    2375254148_3201d51045_o.gif

    hahahah
  • Do you feel better now?:flowerforyou:
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    BILLY BANKS!!!!









    :bigsmile:
  • Trail_Addict
    Trail_Addict Posts: 1,340 Member
    But I can still recommend HCG to people because I heard on the commercial that it helps people lose weight, right?
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Not at all. There are a lot of people on the boards who know this stuff inside out and backwards. Those are the people who should be doing the bulk of the posting around here, not the "you should eat your exercise calories because I do and it works for me" people.
    If you're not going to support your advice with science, or at least logic, then don't post.
    What's wrong with answering a question with "this works for me"? Who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't post? Unless you're a new mod of whom I'm not aware.

    Because it's unhelpful. Who are you? And why does your situation have anything to do with mine? What works for you may or may not work for anyone else, and without any actual supporting information, no one can gauge whether or not your advice is suitable to their situation.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    But I can still recommend HCG to people because I heard on the commercial that it helps people lose weight, right?

    Yes, obviously HCG commercials are an exception.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    BILLY BANKS!!!!
    Who? That name sounds awfully familiar...just can't place it. hmm....
  • Trail_Addict
    Trail_Addict Posts: 1,340 Member
    Not at all. There are a lot of people on the boards who know this stuff inside out and backwards. Those are the people who should be doing the bulk of the posting around here, not the "you should eat your exercise calories because I do and it works for me" people.
    If you're not going to support your advice with science, or at least logic, then don't post.
    What's wrong with answering a question with "this works for me"? Who are you to tell people what they should and shouldn't post? Unless you're a new mod of whom I'm not aware.

    It depends on the way the question was written.

    If someone asks for "opinions", then its to be expected that there will be varying answers. But if someone asks for "truths", then you'll probably want some science to back up your claims.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Because it's unhelpful. Who are you? And why does your situation have anything to do with mine? What works for you may or may not work for anyone else, and without any actual supporting information, no one can gauge whether or not your advice is suitable to their situation.
    Then don't ask! If someone asks for advice, they may want to hear what has worked for other people. By the way, I never give fitnes/diet advice on here because I'm "no one". Give people enough credit to look through the advice they're given and see what might work for them.
  • hausofnichele
    hausofnichele Posts: 531 Member
    I'm just curious .... who is qualified to answer these questions according to you?

    People who actually know what they are talking about. People who actually understand the concept of exercise calories or starvation mode or metabolism or whatever else is in question. NOT people who simply repeat what they read in a previous thread.

    Yes but who gets to decide who knows what they are talking about and who 'doesn't'?
  • onedayillbamilf
    onedayillbamilf Posts: 662 Member
    This post was only slightly arrogant in a very large way. Thank you for that.
  • kuyjlc
    kuyjlc Posts: 1
    goodness. everyone retract their claws and breathe. cant we all just get along? :flowerforyou:
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    Yes but who gets to decide who knows what they are talking about and who 'doesn't'?
    The OP does. Have you not been paying attention? :laugh:
  • CrisN99
    CrisN99 Posts: 159 Member
    Who cares what you think about experts and advice, OP... I sure don't. Why don't you stop flapping your jaw and go for a run. This is a FITNESS site, not a popularity contest.

    Have a good day. Or don't. Whatever.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    Do you feel better now?
    Gosh...this is so mean!
  • secrets_out
    secrets_out Posts: 684 Member
    Because it's unhelpful. Who are you? And why does your situation have anything to do with mine? What works for you may or may not work for anyone else, and without any actual supporting information, no one can gauge whether or not your advice is suitable to their situation.
    Then don't ask! If someone asks for advice, they may want to hear what has worked for other people. By the way, I never give fitnes/diet advice on here because I'm "no one". Give people enough credit to look through the advice they're given and see what might work for them.

    My advice to you is to go away :)
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