12 Tips for People who feel like they can't not losing weigh
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And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true. It is ONE thing that makes you lose weight and is necessary for weight loss, but it is not the ONLY thing, and I really think that's where many of the people to whom my post was directed have problems (which you thankfully do not have). If I eat 1500 calories worth of fast food and Oreos a day and you eat 1500 calories worth of fruits, vegetables, legumes, and lean proteins--you will lose more weight, more quickly than I do (not to mention feel a heck of a lot better than I do). Guarantee it.
Sorry, but you are not correct on this.
See below articles:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/junk-food-diet/MY01589
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22067112
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19439458
There are hundreds more of these available if you look.
If you are talking about overall health, then you are right that a diet of better quality foods will make you feel better and live better, but for strict weight loss, it really does not matter where the calories come from. It's thermodynamics, and nothing else.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you should eat all junk. There are benefits to eating better quality food other than weight loss that are critical, but to say that eating a calorie deficit of junk will make you not lose weight eating the same number of calories in better food is just wrong. I would challenge you to find a scientific article (not an opinion or editorial) that says otherwise to prove your point.
I'm not pointing this out to attack you, however, I do think that if you provide advice, it should be scientifically sound advice. Be careful with the assumption that your way is the only way that someone can do this. You're making the assumption that your way works for everyone, which is not true.
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When did I ever say my way was the only way? Please show me where. Oh, you can't. Because that's now what I think! On the contrary, you said that a calorie deficit WAS THE ONLY WAY, and I simply said it was one way. There are literally millions of ways to lose weight.
I also never said that eating a calorie deficit of junk wouldn't make you lose weight, I said that you'd lose more weight, faster (and feel a heck of a lot better) if you did it eating health food. You need to read more carefully. You're assuming that I am here personally attacking you and your eating habits when I wasn't even directing any of it to you. The post was directed for people who want help--you have all the answers, so you obviously don't need my help.
Again, you're putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said that I think you accept mediocrity; I simply said that I don't. You seem to be taking it personally because of some insecurity that has nothing to do with me. I'm sure you're perfectly healthy as you say you are and I never intended to suggest otherwise.
Your comment about "I guess I don't accept mediocrity" was an incinuation that those of us who disagree with you (and have done so poilitely, I might add) do. It was unnecessary. Did you say "you are mediocre"? No, you didn't, but the comment was unnecessary and left alone came across as rude and has an air of superiority that is uncalled for.
I see you are obviously too emotionally involved in your own advice to have a discussion so I'm out. In the future, however, you should be careful how you post advice especially when it's not correct. I posted scientific support for my points. You did not. It's as simple as that. I am not angry with you at all, simply questioning your advice.
Obviously being challenged is too much for you.0 -
When did I ever say my way was the only way? Please show me where. Oh, you can't. Because that's now what I think! On the contrary, you said that a calorie deficit WAS THE ONLY WAY, and I simply said it was one way. There are literally millions of ways to lose weight.
I also never said that eating a calorie deficit of junk wouldn't make you lose weight, I said that you'd lose more weight, faster (and feel a heck of a lot better) if you did it eating health food. You need to read more carefully. You're assuming that I am here personally attacking you and your eating habits when I wasn't even directing any of it to you. The post was directed for people who want help--you have all the answers, so you obviously don't need my help.
Again, you're putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said that I think you accept mediocrity; I simply said that I don't. You seem to be taking it personally because of some insecurity that has nothing to do with me. I'm sure you're perfectly healthy as you say you are and I never intended to suggest otherwise.
Your comment about "I guess I don't accept mediocrity" was an incinuation that those of us who disagree with you (and have done so poilitely, I might add) do. It was unnecessary. Did you say "you are mediocre"? No, you didn't, but the comment was unnecessary and left alone came across as rude and has an air of superiority that is uncalled for.
I see you are obviously too emotionally involved in your own advice to have a discussion so I'm out. In the future, however, you should be careful how you post advice especially when it's not correct. I posted proof for my points. You did not. It's as simple as that. I am not angry with you at all, simply questioning your advice.
Obviously being challenged is too much for you.
I have no problem being challenged. You could very easily accept that I have a different opinion and stop putting words in my mouth or trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I was not insinuating anything. By saying "I don't accept mediocrity," I was simply trying to express that the reason I follow such a strict diet (as someone else called it) is because I only want the best results possible. If you've gotten fantastic results some other way, more power to you and I encourage you to keep up the good work. As I said originally, I never said my way is the only way. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU! A caloric deficit will help you lose weight. I suggested a caloric deficit in my post. If you want to lose weight, YES, you need a caloric deficit. I don't know how else to say it! I'm simply saying that this is what I did and what worked for me! Talk about emotionally invested... you're the one going on the defense about suggestions that were not even meant for you!0 -
AND YES, DEAR GOD, YES I AM TALKING ABOUT OVERALL HEALTH. That should go without saying.0
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And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true. It is ONE thing that makes you lose weight and is necessary for weight loss, but it is not the ONLY thing, and I really think that's where many of the people to whom my post was directed have problems (which you thankfully do not have). If I eat 1500 calories worth of fast food and Oreos a day and you eat 1500 calories worth of fruits, vegetables, legumes, and lean proteins--you will lose more weight, more quickly than I do (not to mention feel a heck of a lot better than I do). Guarantee it.
you are 100 percent wrong, I'm afraid, on that ... and I'd put money on that bet.0 -
Will I be overall healthier? Will I possibly lose more fat than muscle? Sure.
But I can eat 1200 calories of cheesecake and I will lose weight. It is a simple method of my body burning more energy than it takes. I don't think you have the slightest idea of how this works. And quite frankly your accusation that "I will lose more weight more quickly!" is humorous.
And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true. It is ONE thing that makes you lose weight and is necessary for weight loss, but it is not the ONLY thing, and I really think that's where many of the people to whom my post was directed have problems (which you thankfully do not have). If I eat 1500 calories worth of fast food and Oreos a day and you eat 1500 calories worth of fruits, vegetables, legumes, and lean proteins--you will lose more weight, more quickly than I do (not to mention feel a heck of a lot better than I do). Guarantee it.
you are 100 percent wrong, I'm afraid, on that ... and I'd put money on that bet.0 -
Will I be overall healthier? Will I possibly lose more fat than muscle? Sure.
But I can eat 1200 calories of cheesecake and I will lose weight. It is a simple method of my body burning more energy than it takes. I don't think you have the slightest idea of how this works. And quite frankly your accusation that "I will lose more weight more quickly!" is humorous.
And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true. It is ONE thing that makes you lose weight and is necessary for weight loss, but it is not the ONLY thing, and I really think that's where many of the people to whom my post was directed have problems (which you thankfully do not have). If I eat 1500 calories worth of fast food and Oreos a day and you eat 1500 calories worth of fruits, vegetables, legumes, and lean proteins--you will lose more weight, more quickly than I do (not to mention feel a heck of a lot better than I do). Guarantee it.
you are 100 percent wrong, I'm afraid, on that ... and I'd put money on that bet.
BUT SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT!!!1111ONEONEONE!
oh. wait. yeah, she did.0 -
All I can say is Wow.
Someone who has had success takes the time to be supportive and tries to be helpful by offering tips that worked for her and gets challenged left-right-and-centre! Thought these boards were supposed to be supportive?
There are nice ways to disagree....0 -
Thank you for taking the time to provide some helpful tips! I enjoyed reading your blog and you have inspired me to look more closely at my diet. I bet for some, they like variety in their diets, but I am like you - I do best with more of a predictable routine. Thanks for sharing this! :flowerforyou:0
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All I can say is Wow.
Someone who has had success takes the time to be supportive and tries to be helpful by offering tips that worked for her and gets challenged left-right-and-centre! Thought these boards were supposed to be supportive?
There are nice ways to disagree....
you know, you're right in that maybe I was overly sarcastic. but it was really only in response to to a flippant remark about other accepting mediocrity if they eat another way. maybe the OP didn't intend for it to sound that way, but it's certainly the way it came off. and that's wrong and unfair.
and then to start to talk about how weight loss isn't about just caloric deficit? seriously? on this of all sites, a place dedicated and built around people losing weight by creating a caloric deficit. it's the basic, bedrock principal of weight loss. period. just is. so to say otherwise is just silly.0 -
These tips are great I'm already doing a few of them but others I'll definitely begin to see if I can jumpstart my weight loss!
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Frequency of meals only helps keep you satisfied.
In my opinion that is a very important factor in a weight loss programme and for that reason I stick to 6 meals a day.0 -
I'm glad I could help those who appreciated my genuine attempt to try to offer good, solid advice--because that's what it is. I appreciate all the kind words and support. I had about 10 friend invites as a result of this blog post from people who wanted to use my experience as a motivator, and I'm not only flattered, but finding it motivating for myself!
I never meant to imply that other people accept mediocrity, although it's true that some people do and that IS PERFECTLY OKAY! I was just trying to justify why I do what I do. I was not trying to be flip, I was simply pointing out that my goal is to be as healthy as can be, so that's why my standards may seem higher. If you twisted what I said, and took it personally, it's a result of your own insecurity. That's what seems to be the problem here. People are arguing that I'm saying a caloric deficit will not help you lose weight and if you read my post, I clearly said that it is IMPORTANT to have a caloric deficit if you want to lose weight. I HAVE A CALORIC DEFICIT! So, I firmly agree with the statement (said by someone else) that a caloric deficit is the bedrock of weight loss, but that implies that it is solely the foundation for a much larger, complex structure. What is the purpose of a foundation without an overriding structure for it to support?
I don't appreciate people putting words in my mouth. Someone raised a point about agave not being as healthy as I thought, and I readily accepted their information and intend to research it more because I'm greatly appreciative when people point out that I am wrong or misguided; it helps me. However, it seems many people are putting words in my mouth and twisting around the whole intent of why I shared the blog post in the first place--TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT AND NOT GETTING THE DESIRED RESULTS. If you are satisfied with the results you are achieving with your caloric-deficit-only method, then this advice was not intended for you! But that didn't work for me and it's clearly not working for others as well and this was my humble and genuine attempt to share my own experience with success. If it's not your experience, then by all means, please keep doing what you're doing. Different strokes for different folks.0 -
My profile says I was very thin most of my life. It does not say that I currently am. Read more closely.rml_16, But your profile says that you are thin? I'm confused...
Compared to some, I guess I am. I'm a size 8. But to ME, that is quite heavy. I'm 5'3" and weigh 153 at the moment. And, no, it is not all muscle weight.0 -
If you are satisfied with the results you are achieving with your caloric-deficit-only method, then this advice was not intended for you! But that didn't work for me and it's clearly not working for others as well and this was my humble and genuine attempt to share my own experience with success. If it's not your experience, then by all means, please keep doing what you're doing. Different strokes for different folks.
^^^^^Quoting you so I am not labeled as misquoting you. You said calorie-deficit-only method didn't work for you. Calorie deficit is in fact the only way to lose weight - so if you lost weight you in fact had a calorie deficit. There are many ways to create that calorie deficit - so maybe that's what you mean, the ways can vary - but it's still a calorie deficit and that is what causes weight loss. You can achieve this by diet changes or more exercise or both but the fact still remains, only a calorie deficit will decrease weight. To state otherwise is just not correct.
That's all. Keep up the good work :flowerforyou:0 -
You may be right; maybe there is no scientific research that says your body reacts differently when you don't eat every 2-3 hours, but that's not what I was saying. I was saying that doing so prevents cravings and over-eating. And there is plenty of research to suggest that it is definitely true that skipping meals slows down your metabolism.
While it is true that skipping meals slows down your metabolism this isn't really here nor there with this statement. If you eat three meals a day your metabolism will not slow down (as with 5-6 small meals every 2-3 hours). Plus what you are saying in that it prevents cravings and over-eating is just not true it is a MYTH...a perpetual one but still a myth. There is actually research that states an individual can be more prone to overeat when eating smaller meals more times a day. Here is an interesting link regarding the research I've read on this topic: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=562540 -
And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true.
Can you name another? Just curious.0 -
A few minor pts of contentionProcessed foods sabotage any diet. They make the brain think you're eating a highly nutritious food because it has such a rich taste, but your body doesn't process it as such. These foods are linked to heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and obesity.
Que? just because it's processed doesn't mean it's "bad" and i think you confuse processed foods and their actual degree of processing ie. oatmeal, milk, cheese, protein powder, frozen veggies and fruits etc, all are processedEzekial bread is made of sprouted whole grains--the best kind for you
If you ignore the fact of it's phytic acid content and it's effect on mineral absorption
as well as the pts on meal timing, calorie deficits etc
It was a well intentioned if not slightly misinformed blog post0 -
And your statement, "The only thing makes you lose weight is a calorie deficit" is simply not true.
Can you name another? Just curious.
liposuction?0 -
Thanks for the encouragement! Excellent reminders!0
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You keep saying that your post isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, and that it is only what worked for you. But your thread is essentially titled: "12 Tips for People who feel like they aren't losing weight". You also state in your OP: that it is your "humble attempt to try to help people who were once like me, feeling hopeless and ready to quit."I'm simply saying that this is what I did and what worked for me! Talk about emotionally invested... you're the one going on the defense about suggestions that were not even meant for you!
Posting a message on a fitness site that is addressing difficulty losing, feeling hopeless and feeling ready to quite is casting a wide net. Nothing wrong with that, just that it's not as specific as "here is what worked for me, maybe it will help others" as you have implied in later posts.
Intentional or not, your post - in how it was titled and worded - was in fact aimed at a relatively large audience on MFP. There were some inaccuracies in what you posted - or at least some points that are debatable. And people are correct to point those out.
I enjoy these types of threads because I think the end result is that some people end up learning some things and often have long-held myths dispelled for them. Unfortunately, it usually comes at the price of defensiveness and possibly hurt feelings. And sometimes this weird rescuing behavior that I don't understand. But the end result (on the whole) is that people end up with better information.0 -
Is this what worked for her? I'm a little confused... Seriously people? She made it clear that these are HER tips and they are what worked for HER. Its fantastic that you can eat white breat everyday and lose weight.. then keep doing it.. And, finding mayo clinic articles to "prove her wrong" is obnoxious.
WHAT WORKED FOR HER. Take it or leave it, but ensuing a debate to make yourself the hero is idiotic.0 -
Is this what worked for her? I'm a little confused... Seriously people? She made it clear that these are HER tips and they are what worked for HER. Its fantastic that you can eat white breat everyday and lose weight.. then keep doing it.. And, finding mayo clinic articles to "prove her wrong" is obnoxious.
WHAT WORKED FOR HER. Take it or leave it, but ensuing a debate to make yourself the hero is idiotic.
Me too.0 -
Hey! I saw this episode of "As MFP Turns" a few days ago..... Seriously people? She made it clear that these are HER tips and they are what worked for HER. Its fantastic that you can eat white breat everyday and lose weight.. then keep doing it.. And, finding mayo clinic articles to "prove her wrong" is obnoxious.
WHAT WORKED FOR HER. Take it or leave it, but ensuing a debate to make yourself the hero is idiotic.
An exchange of opinions and information is what make the forum what it is. There is nothing wrong with providing reputable information to rebut some long-held myths about metabolism, nutrition, etc. It only makes the forums more valuable to the members.0 -
Not at a healthy weight. Had a full physical in October specifically because of my inability to lose. Everything's normal.That might be helpful, except I'm doing all those things and not losing.
You are either at a healthy weight or something is wrong--get your thyroid checked asap and ask your doctor about what else could be wrong.
i would suggest having your insulin to glucose ratio checked by an endocrinologist. sounds just like me - nothing was showing up on normal tests (blood, TSH, thyroid ultrasound, glucose fasting) and turns out that my body is just not using insulin correctly. i don't have high blood sugar/diabetes at all, or any other health issues. my doc put me on metformin to balance the insulin and my weight is falling off.
I had the same issue. I had to specifically request the test and my insurance didnt cover it, but the test came back showing the same problem. On Metformin and my body processes things right now.0 -
I'm LMBO...that's all!:laugh:0
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The blog should be renamed "12 myths that I want to perpetuate."
Also, 10 is laughable, WORK TO FAILURE EVERY WORKOUT, BUT DON'T OVERTRAIN. Working to failure every workout is the definition of overtraining.
Every single "tip" is a rampaging diet myth that has been debunked by science many, many times.0 -
Team Edward or team Jacob hmmmm0
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Jacob. hands down.Team Edward or team Jacob hmmmm0 -
Neither. I like adult men. ;-)Team Edward or team Jacob hmmmm0
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