The truth about sugar subsitutes
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He didn't even take his time before looking at the website before he made a comment about the site "looking legit". He posted like a minute later with that comment. So how can he say anything without even taking some reasonable time to really check it out.
so now we've jumped to the next comment? now that's the one I offended you on?
yeah. I opened the site. the entire thing is link after link about why aspertame is bad. in fact, one link posted says that a high-level military source claims gulf war syndrome is caused by artificial sweetener. seriously?
so, no. I don't think a site is legit when every story on there is clearly slanted in one way or the other.
and I make my living reading and using computers. so I'm quick. doesn't change the facts.0 -
When I offer information that I feel is important, I think it is insensitive of someone to make insensitive nonsense comparisons to blue eyed drivers getting into accidents.. So sad someone feels like they need to cut someone else down or belittle them.
No one was belittling you. She merely expressed the opinion that the site was bias. I agree. If the site has an agenda, it's bias and therefor suspect.
If I were to post a link to Splenda's or Nutrisweet's websites, would you trust them to present a completely objective and fair view? Of course not.
This is the same thing... there's no reason to get upset about it.0 -
I've spent a lot of time researching Splenda and I've made an informed decision that it's safe to use...and since sugar makes me very sick, I LOVE it! I also love xylitol and erythiritol...depending on what I'm using the sweetner for.
These work for me, but to each their own. Though I get really sick of people saying that Splenda causes cancer. Seriously folks!0 -
Isn't that ridiculous!0
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Sugar replacements are artificial and nothing but chemicals. Sugar is a natural substance. Regardless of the pros and cons, I don't want to pump my body full of chemicals.
Stevia also is a 100% natural substance. Just sayin'...0 -
Eye roll here. I'd like to see PEER REVIEWED CLINICAL STUDIES as to the actual findings. For all the years I've been doing this, I haven't heard anything but misinformation from "naturalists" and "anti-chemical" followers. Opinions, blogs, articles (with no peer reviewed clinical studies to support them) spread a lot of bad info or pseudoscience trying to make people think that they are being poisoned by artificial sweetners.Morning all!! I got sent this via email this morning and it basically told me things that I already know from my Chemistry background but I thought I would share it to see what you all think!! Have fun! But keep the comments clean!!
Dear Laura,
Everyone thinks that sugar is a nutrition baddie. Well sometimes the replacements are even worse!
Most artificial sweeteners – eg: NutraSweet and Equal – are made of a chemical called aspartame. It took many years for these products to come to market because of the bad side effects. The United States Federal Drug Administrations lists some of the side effects of aspartame to be: memory loss, nerve cell damage, migraines, reproductive disorders, pain lesions, joint pain, hair loss, food cravings and weight gain.
Sweet & Lo contains saccharin, a coal-tar compound affiliated with cancer that is illegal in many countries. Splenda which is “derived from real sugar” is made by chlorinating sugar, changing it to sucralose. Each molecule of sucralose contains three atoms of chlorine which makes it 600 times sweeter than a natural molecule of sugar which contains no chlorine.
And there is even worse news: studies have consistently shown that artificial sweeteners actually promote weight gain. A sweet taste induces an insulin response which causes blood sugar to be stored in tissues and fat. But artificial sweeteners do not actually increase blood sugars, so you actually can become hypoglycemic which leads to an increase in food intake.
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See REAL studies show TRUTH."Study reaffirms safety of aspartame
By Deborah Halber
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Even daily large doses of the high-intensity sweetener aspartame, also known as NutraSweet, had no adverse effect on study subjects' health and well-being, a visiting scientist at MIT reported in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition last week.
"We conclude that aspartame is safe for the general population," said Paul A. Spiers, visiting scientist in the Clinical Research Center (CRC).
Mood, aggression and selected cognitive functions were tested during a study in which some of the subjects consumed doses of aspartame nearly 20 times the daily amount taken by the vast majority of the general population.
During a four-month period, subjects received either aspartame, sugar or a placebo and underwent physical and psychological testing. Some subjects were given doses of up to 45 milligrams per kilogram of body weight--the equivalent of 17 to 24 12-ounce diet beverages for males and 14 to 19 12-ounce drinks for females."
http://web.archive.org/web/20050207034647/http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/tt/1998/sep16/aspartame.html
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just want to say...
whether artificial sweeteners are healthy for us or not.. i have no idea *LOL*... BUT...
what i have found is true for me is:
- Eating lots of processed sugars (most sweeteners other than fruits) = me still craving sweet constantly
- Substituting artificial sweeteners for white sugars = me still craving sweet constantly
- Cutting out sweets completely = lasts about 1 week max, and i have tried this many many times, so another bad choice
- Eating less processed sugars, in smaller amounts (ie just a drizzle of honey or pure maple syrup) when the urge for something sweet hit = me not still craving sweets constantly
So ... no artificial sweeteners, no refined sugars either, for me.
Sadly i proved these truths for myself over The Christmas holidays by letting myself slip into the old habit (after a year of not doing so) of overindulging (for about 6-8 weeks) in my old nemesis, refined sugars (aka... lots of delicious xmas goodies and baking!!).. and now i am back to square one in terms of re-educating my cravings and eliminating the sweets again. This time though i know how i react, and i know i will get back to the 'no craving of sweets' zone again. *s*
What this all means chemically, scientifically or biologically?
idk *LOL*
all i know is which choices result in cravings in me *S*0 -
Correlation doesn't equal causation. Your point is anecdotal if there is no real proof (actual peer reviewed studies) to back them.But my point was that these sweetners are in everything and a lot of people are binging on them every day! It is a cumulative effect that has very bad results in much smaller doses than the example he used. That was the point I was making!
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THIS! It's irresponsible to make claims of "truths" when there is no actual evidence to support them.But, you know, it'd be really cool if people didn't try and present something as fact when it's not fact just to support their choice.
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I am not going to ever stop anyone else from having them, but I don't want them in my house or in my body. The problem is you need to remember a million wierd names to even recognize them in food.
There should be a law that every product that contains an articial sweetener should have a big marking, on the front of it, that says "This product contains artifical sweetners."
I don't want to buy something and realize that it contains sucalose or stevia. Obviously I don't want to touch that stuff, but it is in EVERYTHING! it is almost as bad as high fructose corn syrup. This has happened to me one too many times. I buy organic yogurt, thinking it is fine, and then I find that there is stevia in it. It's crazy!
It is really hard to make informed decisions these days.0 -
Excellent post. I do not do artificial sweetners at all.
^^ Me either. I wish they would outlaw aspartame all together. I would much rather eat a little bit of real sugar than polute my body with that artificial crap.
Just use honey or pure Maple!0 -
Did you know that eating fruits creates phenylalanine in your body? The same stuff in aspartame? Do you REALLY want to do that your body? Lol, you do realize that other foods break down into formaldehyde in our bodies too? Scare mongering at it's best.*sigh* I had a nice long post about the chemistry of it all... And blamo! Gone!
Briefly - Spleda is natural sucrose treated with chlorine. We use chlorine to disinfect, and therefore, it's toxic to living systems. Chlorine gas has been used as a chemical warfare agent. Aspertame does break down to formaldehyde, which is a known carcinogen and even brief exposure during a high school dissection could be enough to cause cancer. Do you REALLY want to put these things into your body?
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Come to the Dark Side.I gave up all sugar substitutes.
My gut feeling was that something was wrong.
I do not regret this.
And as I pour over all the conflicting notions, I certainly can report that I just feel better.
Scientific? Nope...
I am a study of one, and the results are in.
Something about sugar substitutes just ain't quite right.
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Lol, so protein powders must be bad for us too...............Why would anyone want to ingest chemically modified or created anything? Its a sickening thought for me. 15 calories are not that important to me that I can't use a tsp of REAL nature produced sugar in my coffee instead of a 0 calories plant engineered substitute! Eat real stuff! We don't eat lead paint...lets not eat other bad for us stuff either!
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Newsflash.............everything you ingest is a chemical. Your body works by chemical reaction. If you ate meat it would break down to it's simplest chemical form. So to say you don't to pump your body full of chemicals would mean you CAN'T eat anything.Sugar replacements are artificial and nothing but chemicals. Sugar is a natural substance. Regardless of the pros and cons, I don't want to pump my body full of chemicals.
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Jillian Michaels would be my trainer of choice....she doesn't believe in artifcial sweetners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just saying ninerbuff. Isn't Whey Protein Natural since it is a product of dairy....you know Curds and Whey.0
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Who knows what we are ALL EATING!!!!
I use Agave Nectar because I personally do not like artificial sweeteners. However, I also do not like the taste of stevia. And its in my new protein powder I just bought. EW!
Anyways, those artificial sweeteners... They made my child grow a third eye. When I get a hold of that Sweet n Low company... they're gonna get it.0 -
So are you saying that aspartame is the cause of brain tumors? Really?Thank you! I know that these are so toxic. My sister-in-law had a brain tumor removed along with the front tempral lobe. She still has seizures and drank aspartame laced drinks and other things that contain it! Its a terrible thing! Its not a safe or healthy alternative. I would rather have real sugar than the artificial stuff any day!
She cannot drive now due to seizure risk.
Artificial sweeteners are so NOT worth it!!!
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Cocaine is a great appetite suppressant and increases metabolism.You seriously think the sugar you buy at the store is not artificially processed? Raw sugar is brown, not white. Sugar cane is heavily processed to extract the sugar and change it into the white stuff at the store. Natural? Yeah, so is cocaine and heroin....
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isn't sugar in the raw natural? Or natural raw organic sugar?0
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Getting medical advice at a gym seems one of the inherent dangers of warding off obesity. Everyone
seems to have a degree in physiology or is a certified personal trainer. Almost everyone is quite the opposite.
Most are there because they allowed themselves to fall into such disarray physically that life style changes have
to be done or imminent death is very probable.
That being said, there are enough questions about artificial sweeteners that I will try to avoid them until some of those questions are cleared up. Sugar is quite natural when taken in moderation. I can meet
most of my needs from fruit intake (if I can forget about the possible fungicide/arsenic etc poising) . A couple teaspoons
of brown sugar daily aren't going to affect a fit being (non-diabetic etc) adversely .
As far as the comments from the same "gym medical staff" that constantly inform me that red meat stays digestive system for 6 months? I'll just buy them a regular Coke!0 -
Cocaine is a great appetite suppressant and increases metabolism.
I'm sure all the drug addicted patients I advised would be glad to use that as an excuse when they need to lose weight.0 -
Woohoo Jillian Michaels.............snore. Do you know how many people on Biggest Loser actually kept significant weight off? About 20-25 after over 200+ contestants. Why? Because extreme dieting, restriction and abstaining usually results in weight regain. Why do you think so many regain? Not because they are still eating natural...........Jillian Michaels would be my trainer of choice....she doesn't believe in artifcial sweetners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just saying ninerbuff. Isn't Whey Protein Natural since it is a product of dairy....you know Curds and Whey.
While many admire Jillian Michaels as a celebrity trainer, you do realize she promotes supplements with artificial chemicals in them right? Kinda ironic. Buying into the hype of a celebrity doesn't mean she's always correct. Her stance is that it's okay to use HER weight loss supplements pills.
As for protein powders, the MAJORITY of them USE ARTIFICAL SWEETNERS in them. Don't believe me, look at the labels. Just sayin'.0 -
Plus, they can give you really bad gas.0
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Cocaine is a great appetite suppressant and increases metabolism.
I'm sure all the drug addicted patients I advised would be glad to use that as an excuse when they need to lose weight.0 -
There is a thing called sarcasm on the internet.I'm sure all the drug addicted patients I advised would be glad to use that as an excuse when they need to lose weight.
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There is a thing called sarcasm on the internet.I'm sure all the drug addicted patients I advised would be glad to use that as an excuse when they need to lose weight.
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pfft. haha0 -
ninerbuff do you have a medical degree????????????? How many of your clients have kept their weight off??????? Biggest Loser has changed lives whether you like it or not...Millions of people love Jillian and she has changed lives and she promotes NATURAL FOODS....Imagine that eating food in its NATURAL...UNPROCESSED...STATE....WHAT A CONCEPT.0
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ninerbuff do you have a medical degree????????????? How many of your clients have kept their weight off??????? Biggest Loser has changed lives whether you like it or not...Millions of people love Jillian and she has changed lives and she promotes NATURAL FOODS....Imagine that eating food in its NATURAL...UNPROCESSED...STATE....WHAT A CONCEPT.
the people didn't keep the weight off cause they weren't ready to make fitness and diet a lifestyle change... not because of the trainer. No one should ever go on a "diet" to lose pounds, over time people will learn it takes a change of habits, not just a phase. And I for one, LOVE JM. She is my favorite "celeb" trainer, and the least annoying of them all too. Cheesy at times, but like her anyways. For her workouts. And attitude0
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