Does black caffeinated coffee count as daily water

ASPhantom

Personally I only log water as water. If I drink anything else, I log it as such.

Water=Water

AmberJslimsAWAY

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Yea, I'm confused by this as well. I don't see how a medical professional would say that a beverage that is pure sugar and chemicals could count as water?

Because a doctor is looking at it from a "dehydrated state" Yes sodas , filled with chemicals and sugar, can rehydrate in a proper amount. along with the chemicals and sugars it also has water in it. Thus it would rehydrate a person, if that is all one had to drink. Water is better, but soda {in the absence of other choices} would rehydrate also.

Which is exaclty why the stores of full of such drinks. Isotonic sodas, and balance rehydrate drinks etc etc...full of sugar and other chemicals. Still water based and still count as fluids.

Yes because when you are sick, your doctor tells you to drink brown fluids, not clear ones. It's totally the same thing. :huh:

enigrebua

Liquid is liquid, it hydrates you either way. So yes, if you'd rather drink coffee than water, drink coffee I personally drink a lot of juice and milk for my liquid intake.

dane11235813

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/490095-crystal-light-is-not-water


hahahahah...and here we go again.

UsedToBeHusky

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

rainunrefined

Typically, anything with caffeine in it is likely to dehydrate you, and to drink equal amounts of water.

If I drink a caffeinated beverage then no I personally do not count it.

rainunrefined

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Yea, I'm confused by this as well. I don't see how a medical professional would say that a beverage that is pure sugar and chemicals could count as water?

is it not made with water? Is the largest component not water? What is it then? Wood???

These drinks can count as a water intake.

This makes me laugh. Soda... is not water. It's liquid chemicals. If you're counting LIQUID then sure.. but water is water is waterrrrr... not soda.

phinners

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Yea, I'm confused by this as well. I don't see how a medical professional would say that a beverage that is pure sugar and chemicals could count as water?

Because a doctor is looking at it from a "dehydrated state" Yes sodas , filled with chemicals and sugar, can rehydrate in a proper amount. along with the chemicals and sugars it also has water in it. Thus it would rehydrate a person, if that is all one had to drink. Water is better, but soda {in the absence of other choices} would rehydrate also.

Which is exaclty why the stores of full of such drinks. Isotonic sodas, and balance rehydrate drinks etc etc...full of sugar and other chemicals. Still water based and still count as fluids.

Yes because when you are sick, your doctor tells you to drink brown fluids, not clear ones. It's totally the same thing. :huh:

Funny actually I spent the weekend in hospital with severe dehydration folling a stomach accident. The doctor said 'plenty of fluids - juice, tea, tap water, milk, whatever I can stomach'.

Fluids is the key word. Any colour you like.

angiemartin78

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Yea, I'm confused by this as well. I don't see how a medical professional would say that a beverage that is pure sugar and chemicals could count as water?

Because a doctor is looking at it from a "dehydrated state" Yes sodas , filled with chemicals and sugar, can rehydrate in a proper amount. along with the chemicals and sugars it also has water in it. Thus it would rehydrate a person, if that is all one had to drink. Water is better, but soda {in the absence of other choices} would rehydrate also.

Which is exaclty why the stores of full of such drinks. Isotonic sodas, and balance rehydrate drinks etc etc...full of sugar and other chemicals. Still water based and still count as fluids.

Yes because when you are sick, your doctor tells you to drink brown fluids, not clear ones. It's totally the same thing. :huh:

Thank you!

drmerc

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

What statistic is that?

JacksMom12

Your body is able to separate the water from anything that is dissolved in it. When you eat or drink anything it goes to your GI system and is digested and broken down into various nutrients and then absorbed in to the blood stream. The substances that are not absorbed (like fibre) exit through your bowels. Thus, the water that is in your coffee is absorbed into your bloodstream as water. There is not a separate tube system for "pure" water and another for coffee/tea/pop/juice etc. Therefore, all beverages containing water can count as water because that is how your body processes them.

Good Explanation.

phinners

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Yea, I'm confused by this as well. I don't see how a medical professional would say that a beverage that is pure sugar and chemicals could count as water?

is it not made with water? Is the largest component not water? What is it then? Wood???

These drinks can count as a water intake.

This makes me laugh. Soda... is not water. It's liquid chemicals. If you're counting LIQUID then sure.. but water is water is waterrrrr... not soda.

I might well be thinking a different thing on Soda. Soda is is carbonated water - ie water with CO2. It's flavourless and yuk. But thats called 'soda water'.

killagb

This. People don't seem to get that fluids other than water actually hydrate you. Plain water is not some miracle cure....but go on...I am too tired to fight about this and really...who cares.

phinners

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

What statistic is that?

One out of the Daily Mail I suspect.

marycmeadows

if it's caffeinated, it doesn't count as water. sorry.

sunnyday789

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

I don't tell people to drink water. In general, people are hydrated. Not sure where you get "statistically most people are dehydrated" I have read/heard that also but no data to support that.
I don't know why people want to pee every hour. A waste of TP and water, not to mention the chemicals that are going in to the waterways to treat the sewage water everytime you flush.

tamheath

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Wow. My doctor's head would pop off if I told him soda counted as water. :embarassed:

UsedToBeHusky

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

I don't tell people to drink water. In general, people are hydrated. Not sure where you get "statistically most people are dehydrated" I have read/heard that also but no data to support that.
I don't know why people want to pee every hour. A waste of TP and water, not to mention the chemicals that are going in to the waterways to treat the sewage water everytime you flush.

Before I started my lifestyle change, I drank 5 or 6 Dr Peppers a day, sometimes whole 2 liters by myself, and my doctors always said that I was dehydrated.

vweavers

Consider this: You drink pure water while eating caramels. Once it's in your stomach- your body doesn't know whether you drank water+caramels or if you drank flat soda (soda=coloring, flavoring, sugar, water)!!!

So why WOULDN'T a soda be considered 'water' - at least in terms of daily water intake? Same goes for coffee, tea, etc.
If you're counting calories, there is a difference, so should be entered as such- but if you're just measuring 'water' intake, yes it counts. No science needed. Just some common sense.

SteveHunt113

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

I may be wrong, but I think "...statistically mot people are dehydrated." is not really a statistic at all. This is what I read when I did my research on the subject.

As I stated earlier, scientists are even questioning where this magic 8 cups a day came from. And they have argued that half of this 8 cups of water can come from the food we eat. You body is quiet remarkable at taking what we eat and breaking it down into what we need.

I'm of the theory that you should drink water if you are thirsty. Have you ever had a craving for salty food, or even for water? That's your body telling you what it currently needs.

grannygethealthy1111

Yes, coffee counts towards your daily intake of FLUIDS. This is from the Mayo Clinic:

Beyond the tap: Other sources of water

Although it's a great idea to keep water within reach at all times, you don't need to rely only on what you drink to meet your fluid needs. What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake. For example, many fruits and vegetables, such as watermelon and tomatoes, are 90 percent or more water by weight.

In addition, beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute, but these should not be a major portion of your daily total fluid intake. Water is still your best bet because it's calorie-free, inexpensive and readily available.

Mamaincali

No. Water is water. If it is black and has caffeine in it, then it is coffee.

This is wrong. Science is science. Read the article I posted.

I really wish people on this site would stop posting things that are scientifically wrong.

How do you know your scientific article is correct?

nml2011

Your body is able to separate the water from anything that is dissolved in it. When you eat or drink anything it goes to your GI system and is digested and broken down into various nutrients and then absorbed in to the blood stream. The substances that are not absorbed (like fibre) exit through your bowels. Thus, the water that is in your coffee is absorbed into your bloodstream as water. There is not a separate tube system for "pure" water and another for coffee/tea/pop/juice etc. Therefore, all beverages containing water can count as water because that is how your body processes them.

Spot on... our bodies are clever things!

SteveHunt113

Consider this: You drink pure water while eating caramels. Once it's in your stomach- your body doesn't know you didn't drink flat soda (soda=coloring, flavoring, sugar, water)!!!
So why WOULDN'T a soda be considered 'water' - at least in terms of daily water intake? Same goes for coffee, tea, etc.
If you're counting calories, there is a difference, so should be entered as such- but if you're just measuring 'water' intake, yes it counts. No science needed. Just some common sense.

The argument is around the stuff in the coffee or soda (caffine) that will cause you to lose water. Even so, you will retain a percentage of the water in that beverage, meaning that beverage will hydrate you. But I don't think it's far to say 8 oz of soda counts as 8 oz of water. That's my not so humble opinion!

killagb

if it's caffeinated, it doesn't count as water. sorry.

You're wrong. Sorry.

Chagama

There are two different issues here:
1) How to log it. Since it will have some calories in it, log it as what it is. Only log water as water. Otherwise you are missing calories.

2) Does it hydrate your body? - yes it does, from that perspective it counts as water. Caffeine does not dehydrate you, it merely does not hydrate you as much as plain water would. But it does not actually result in a net loss of water from your body when you include the water in the drink that you ingest. Only alcohol actually dehydrates your body. Since there is no actual science behind the 8 cups of water per day, the question is whether you need to drink more. The best advice I was given by a doctor, and read, is that if you are thirsty, or you are not fully hydrated (urine is yellow, not clear) then drink. If you are not thirsty and you are hydrated, don't drink.

If you aren't sure, try an experiment. Spend a few hours drinking nothing but a lot tea or coffee. You will go to the bathroom a lot and your urine will be clear. You will be hydrated.

sunnyday789

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

I don't tell people to drink water. In general, people are hydrated. Not sure where you get "statistically most people are dehydrated" I have read/heard that also but no data to support that.
I don't know why people want to pee every hour. A waste of TP and water, not to mention the chemicals that are going in to the waterways to treat the sewage water everytime you flush.

Before I started my lifestyle change, I drank 5 or 6 Dr Peppers a day, sometimes whole 2 liters by myself, and my doctors always said that I was dehydrated.

I can't speak for your case as there's a lot of information needed to make the diagnosis of dehydration like bloodwork, blood pressure etc. For me I drink maybe 1-2 glasses of "pure" H20 a day and do not experience dehydration.
But you had stated that "most people are dehyrated" so was wondering where you had gotten that piece of information.
I'm not advocating people drink soda instead of water and if you feel better drinking 2 litres of water instead of 2 litres of pop that's great.(not being sacarstic).

Chika_2015

NO!!!!!

firstnamekaren

Has anyone asked this question of their doctor or a nutritionist?

Nope but already dislike you because of your sn. ROCK CHALK! :happy: :laugh:

Sabresgal63

From the Mayo clinic website:

Question
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.

Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.


Beyond the tap: Other sources of water
Although it's a great idea to keep water within reach at all times, you don't need to rely only on what you drink to meet your fluid needs. What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake. For example, many fruits and vegetables, such as watermelon and tomatoes, are 90 percent or more water by weight.

In addition, beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute, but these should not be a major portion of your daily total fluid intake. Water is still your best bet because it's calorie-free, inexpensive and readily available.