Does black caffeinated coffee count as daily water

grannygethealthy1111

Yes, coffee counts towards your daily intake of FLUIDS. This is from the Mayo Clinic:

Beyond the tap: Other sources of water

Although it's a great idea to keep water within reach at all times, you don't need to rely only on what you drink to meet your fluid needs. What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake. For example, many fruits and vegetables, such as watermelon and tomatoes, are 90 percent or more water by weight.

In addition, beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute, but these should not be a major portion of your daily total fluid intake. Water is still your best bet because it's calorie-free, inexpensive and readily available.

Mamaincali

No. Water is water. If it is black and has caffeine in it, then it is coffee.

This is wrong. Science is science. Read the article I posted.

I really wish people on this site would stop posting things that are scientifically wrong.

How do you know your scientific article is correct?

nml2011

Your body is able to separate the water from anything that is dissolved in it. When you eat or drink anything it goes to your GI system and is digested and broken down into various nutrients and then absorbed in to the blood stream. The substances that are not absorbed (like fibre) exit through your bowels. Thus, the water that is in your coffee is absorbed into your bloodstream as water. There is not a separate tube system for "pure" water and another for coffee/tea/pop/juice etc. Therefore, all beverages containing water can count as water because that is how your body processes them.

Spot on... our bodies are clever things!

SteveHunt113

Consider this: You drink pure water while eating caramels. Once it's in your stomach- your body doesn't know you didn't drink flat soda (soda=coloring, flavoring, sugar, water)!!!
So why WOULDN'T a soda be considered 'water' - at least in terms of daily water intake? Same goes for coffee, tea, etc.
If you're counting calories, there is a difference, so should be entered as such- but if you're just measuring 'water' intake, yes it counts. No science needed. Just some common sense.

The argument is around the stuff in the coffee or soda (caffine) that will cause you to lose water. Even so, you will retain a percentage of the water in that beverage, meaning that beverage will hydrate you. But I don't think it's far to say 8 oz of soda counts as 8 oz of water. That's my not so humble opinion!

killagb

if it's caffeinated, it doesn't count as water. sorry.

You're wrong. Sorry.

Chagama

There are two different issues here:
1) How to log it. Since it will have some calories in it, log it as what it is. Only log water as water. Otherwise you are missing calories.

2) Does it hydrate your body? - yes it does, from that perspective it counts as water. Caffeine does not dehydrate you, it merely does not hydrate you as much as plain water would. But it does not actually result in a net loss of water from your body when you include the water in the drink that you ingest. Only alcohol actually dehydrates your body. Since there is no actual science behind the 8 cups of water per day, the question is whether you need to drink more. The best advice I was given by a doctor, and read, is that if you are thirsty, or you are not fully hydrated (urine is yellow, not clear) then drink. If you are not thirsty and you are hydrated, don't drink.

If you aren't sure, try an experiment. Spend a few hours drinking nothing but a lot tea or coffee. You will go to the bathroom a lot and your urine will be clear. You will be hydrated.

sunnyday789

Honestly... why even tell people to drink water then? If you are going to tell people that everything they eat and drink counts as water, then why even bother to suggest it. Because obviously, if it were enough, then people everywhere would be hydrated, when statistically most people are dehydrated. You can count whatever you want as water... then don't bother to count water at all... but you won't be doing your body any favors.

I don't tell people to drink water. In general, people are hydrated. Not sure where you get "statistically most people are dehydrated" I have read/heard that also but no data to support that.
I don't know why people want to pee every hour. A waste of TP and water, not to mention the chemicals that are going in to the waterways to treat the sewage water everytime you flush.

Before I started my lifestyle change, I drank 5 or 6 Dr Peppers a day, sometimes whole 2 liters by myself, and my doctors always said that I was dehydrated.

I can't speak for your case as there's a lot of information needed to make the diagnosis of dehydration like bloodwork, blood pressure etc. For me I drink maybe 1-2 glasses of "pure" H20 a day and do not experience dehydration.
But you had stated that "most people are dehyrated" so was wondering where you had gotten that piece of information.
I'm not advocating people drink soda instead of water and if you feel better drinking 2 litres of water instead of 2 litres of pop that's great.(not being sacarstic).

Chika_2015

NO!!!!!

firstnamekaren

Has anyone asked this question of their doctor or a nutritionist?

Nope but already dislike you because of your sn. ROCK CHALK! :happy: :laugh:

Sabresgal63

From the Mayo clinic website:

Question
Caffeine: Is it dehydrating or not?
I've been seeing ads that say cola and coffee drinks hydrate you as well as water does. Is this true?
Answer
from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
It is true. Researchers used to believe that caffeinated drinks had a diuretic effect. This means that you would urinate more after drinking them, which could increase your risk of becoming dehydrated. Recent research shows that this is not true and that caffeine has a diuretic effect only if you consume large amounts of it — more than 500 to 600 milligrams (the equivalent of 5 to 7 cups of coffee) a day.

Still, caffeinated drinks can make you jittery, sleepless or anxious. Water is probably your best bet to stay hydrated. It's calorie-free, caffeine-free, inexpensive and readily available.


Beyond the tap: Other sources of water
Although it's a great idea to keep water within reach at all times, you don't need to rely only on what you drink to meet your fluid needs. What you eat also provides a significant portion of your fluid needs. On average, food provides about 20 percent of total water intake. For example, many fruits and vegetables, such as watermelon and tomatoes, are 90 percent or more water by weight.

In addition, beverages such as milk and juice are composed mostly of water. Even beer, wine and caffeinated beverages — such as coffee, tea or soda — can contribute, but these should not be a major portion of your daily total fluid intake. Water is still your best bet because it's calorie-free, inexpensive and readily available.

dfborders

Wow - I didn't know that this would be so heavily debated. Here is how I see it with absolutely NO (none/nothing) scientific understanding about it (since the science community goes back and forth on everything anyways i.e. eggs used to be awesome for you, then they were bad for you, now their good for you as long as you only eat them every so often, etc.). If you log it as water and you don't lose weight - then change it to a food in your diary and see if that helps. I personally log my coffee as coffe because I use sweetener and organic creamer (yeah - can't wait for the comments on that one - organic coffe and organic creamer with **gasp** chemically induced sweetener:bigsmile:) Good Luck with how you decide to handle it.

Skydemon53

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Wow. My doctor's head would pop off if I told him soda counted as water. :embarassed:

Then beer and wine must count too

rlawrimore

Its really not that hard. There are so many things that we consume that has water in them.
Yes, here in MFP, I would say that just plain water should be counted as water, but that does not mean that is all the water you consumed in one day.
A soda has water in it, just like coffee or tea.
I would say log water as water and anything else as what it is.
Just know that if you drink 64oz of "water" and also drink 2 - 12 oz diet sodas, 8 oz of unsweet tea, and 2 juicy oranges you are still getting more than just 64oz of "water" into your body.

afwife4811

I would think the answer to that is NO because caffeine actually dehydrates you and the whole purpose of water is to rehydrate yourself and flush out all the toxins. I drink 2 cups of black coffee every morning but I do not count it as water.

mrmanmeat

Has anyone asked this question of their doctor or a nutritionist?

Seriously?

When was the last time you drank black water.

MaryDreamer

I don't count mine as water because I add creamer. I tried to drink it black before, and still didn't log it as water. Some say yes, some say no. To be safe I don't count it as water.

RNmomto4

Then beer and wine must count too





Love it!

jilaneeaf

I was told by my Doctor that any drink such as coffee, tea and/or sodas count as water.

Your doctor told you soda counts as water? Really?

Soda counts as water? NO WAY!

wellbert

So if I take a caffeine pill (or eat some chocolate) and wash it down with a glass of water, then a glass of water doesn't count as water?

How many glasses of water do I have to drink after I take an Excedrin for Migraine before I'm actually drinking water and not "non-county-wet-stuff that only appears to be H20 to ignorant people like chemists"

67July

I agree, its a diuretic.