Paleo Diet
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Yes, but aren't a lot of the meats, fruits and vegetables that you're allowed to eat on the Paleo plan modified too? Ever since selective breeding was discovered, humans have been creating all sorts of new kinds of produce AND livestock breeds.
I'm not saying that Paleo is a bad or unhealthy plan, but there's no way you can really have access to exactly the same kinds of food people ate in the stone age.
Besides that, stone age people in different part of the world most certainly ate different foods.0 -
I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....0 -
I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....
I wasn't saying that it's impossible to get everything your body needs on Paleo -- but unless you have allergies to the foods that diet forbids, why would you not want to enjoy them, at least on occasion? Many of the foods Paleo forbids are high in nutrition -- they aren't all empty calorie junk foods0 -
Why does anyone follow the diet they do? I've been a vegetarian for years, for a variety of reasons. Is it restrictive? Sure, but it works for me. I know several people who swear by paleo, and that's what works for them. In the end, isn't a healthier lifestyle the point, however it's accomplished?I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....
I wasn't saying that it's impossible to get everything your body needs on Paleo -- but unless you have allergies to the foods that diet forbids, why would you not want to enjoy them, at least on occasion? Many of the foods Paleo forbids are high in nutrition -- they aren't all empty calorie junk foods0 -
nomnompaleo is a great blog with paleo recipes for all occasions. I have been doing a grain free diet for about 2 months now (occasional corn eaten) and mostly eat primal. I haven't been able to give up my dairy!! But I have switched to full fat dairy, which tastes so much better anyways. Feel free to friend me or take a look at my diary. I love eating this way!0
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I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....
I wasn't saying that it's impossible to get everything your body needs on Paleo -- but unless you have allergies to the foods that diet forbids, why would you not want to enjoy them, at least on occasion? Many of the foods Paleo forbids are high in nutrition -- they aren't all empty calorie junk foods
You certainly can eat some of these food on occaision. I follow Mark Sisson's The Primal Blueprint guildlines and he says, 80% of the time, eat Primal (much like paleo but slightly less restrictive). The other 20% of the time, do what you want, just don't overdo. Truth is, after a while on the program, you feel so good, you don't want to mess it up.
Mark and some of the research his progream and book are based on would say that, to some degree, we are all allergic to these grains and beans. Some more severely than others. They all contain inflammatory propreties. For example, I and I am a bean lover, beans hav e saccarides that are undigestible by humans. That is why they cause us so much gas. Pretty much all whole grains contain phytates which inhibit the absorbtion of minerals by the digestive tract.
So, it's not that these food are all empty calories. It more that, according to the theory, they are not foods that our bodies were designed to eat. They contain some natural defense compounds that are inflammatory to humans, Inflammation in our diets can be responsible for everything from a little indigestion and gas to things like arthritis, health disease and cancer. I'd highly recommed Mark's Daily Apple, his blog and forum to get more insight. Mark is definitly not a humorless advocate of a strict diet. He says enjoy life. One his 10 primal rules is to Play Regualrly (papraphraing) and when you do enjoy some food item off program, enjoy it! Guilt free! Then get back on program for the 80% of the time.
I have come back from almost having my health destroyed by a health condition that was treated by allopathic physicians with a stready stream of anibiotics and antihistamines. At 52 I felt like I was 82. Through the help of my Osteopathic/ homeopathic physician and eating a cleaner diet, at 60 I am in the best health I can remember since my 20s. The Primal Blueprint diet and exercise plan is just the icing on the cake of a complete restoration of my health at age 60. I look and feel much younger than my age. Not atributing all of my improvement to The Primal Blueprint and not saying this is something everyone should do, but it sure has worked for me. You may want to consider giving it a closer look.0 -
We really don't know how much grain early humans ate. But almost as soon as they started farming, and not just being hunter/gathers, humans grew grain.
Anyway, I really don't understand why we should eat what stone age people ate when there is such a rich history of food that humans have been consuming for thousands of years that are not part of the Paleo plan. To me, Paleo is just another fad diet that makes big money for the people that write books about it.
The research and findings that have been done on mummy's that ate grains and drank beer shows high evidence of tooth decay and heart disease. They were people that ate a HIGH grain diet that could be possibly reminiscent of how many people eat today and heart disease is very high in this country and it is not caused from fat or cholesterol.
With pushing the "healthy grain" mantra, there is MORE money in grain subsidies and companies such as Monsanto and food manufacturers than there are with people writing books..................if you follow that money trail it leads back to Monsanto, General Mills, Kelloggs, and the BIG Pharmaceutical companies.......................
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm0 -
I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There are no nutrients in grains that can not be obtained from meat, fat, vegetables and some fruit.0 -
I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....
I wasn't saying that it's impossible to get everything your body needs on Paleo -- but unless you have allergies to the foods that diet forbids, why would you not want to enjoy them, at least on occasion? Many of the foods Paleo forbids are high in nutrition -- they aren't all empty calorie junk foods
I don't enjoy bread, pasta or other grain foods. They actually are bland and have no flavor. Most "grain" foods are just carriers for other flavors.
I would much rather have spaghetti squash with a marinara sauce than to eat pasta with that same marinara sauce.
I am getting way more nutrition there and no achy joints and water retention the next day.0 -
I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.
Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.
http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
There is nothing wrong with paleolithic intakes... Im pretty much paleo myself under doctor's supervision and its served me quite well....
I wasn't saying that it's impossible to get everything your body needs on Paleo -- but unless you have allergies to the foods that diet forbids, why would you not want to enjoy them, at least on occasion? Many of the foods Paleo forbids are high in nutrition -- they aren't all empty calorie junk foods
I don't enjoy bread, pasta or other grain foods. They actually are bland and have no flavor. Most "grain" foods are just carriers for other flavors.
I would much rather have spaghetti squash with a marinara sauce than to eat pasta with that same marinara sauce.
I am getting way more nutrition there and no achy joints and water retention the next day.
Ive known many people and patients who choose not to eat any of the grains and its perfectly healthy to eliminate them whether its for personal reasons or health reasons.
Paleo deals with real wholesome food - plain and simple. No prepackaged-processed-junk foods, no fiber bars, no chips, no dips, no pile-high plates of pasta, breads or rice (they are processed foods), just real food. There's ALOT of health to be found in paleo-styles...
Some of us CANT do the 'moderation is the key' thing. Its either portion-control issues, dont trust theirself around that type of food, or medical problems and reactions.
I didnt even KNOW my body was having reactions when I ate these (wretched, in my opinion) foods... I havent had potatoes, rice, corn, pasta, bread/flour in an extremely long time. Im not a fan of dairy as it is but I will allow myself to enjoy butter once in a while. I eat perfectly healthy, have dropped 64lbs, one of my prescriptions was removed out of four, my total cholesterol panel is 117, all my numbers are within healthy ranges, in fact they improved greatly when I removed those food-items... I feel better, I feel the difference my body is going through as a result of not eating those types of foods... in fact, I had such a sensitivity to them, it was rediculous.
People just need to do what works for them, not be so judgemental about others, nor have negative opinions. Your negative opinions are about as bad as a family member who doesnt support your healthy lifestyle change. Paleo is healthy, Low-Carb is healthy.... why be so negative?0 -
BTW - spaghetti squash with homemade marinara totally rules in my book! Ill even do up some zucchini threads to mix in for color and flavor as well!0
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2 excellent posts!0
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We love EverydayPaleo.com, which offers a wide range of good recipies that are easy to prepare and don't require crazy ingredients. As much as I appreciate the 30-day Paleo challenge in the back of The Paleo Solution (which I highly recommend), they're not super kid-friendly. EverydayPaleo.com has lots of kid foods, which have really made the transition easy for our family.
34lbs and dropping.
Cheers,0 -
Show me the science.It's a heavily science based diet utilizing the properties of evolution and the human body.
I love it. Marks Daily Apple is great, as well as Paleo Spirit blog.
Add me if you'd like. Paleo is so tough for the first couple weeks, after that-- well, you won't ever want to go back once you see how great you feel. Especially emotionally.0 -
Show me the science.
It's not hard to find. Google is your friend, or one of the biggest proponents of this diet has a good amount of published research available here: http://thepaleodiet.com/published-research/0 -
I've been on the Paleo diet for the last couple weeks and so far, I really like it. It wasn't too much of a stretch for me since I was already gluten-free and ate a lot of lean meats and veggies. My only issue with the Paleo diet is that it was hard to eat enough calories to meet my daily calorie goal. I've somewhat solved this by drinking protein shakes, eating more nuts and avocados. Anyone have any tips on how to eat enough calories?0
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I've been on the Paleo diet for the last couple weeks and so far, I really like it. It wasn't too much of a stretch for me since I was already gluten-free and ate a lot of lean meats and veggies. My only issue with the Paleo diet is that it was hard to eat enough calories to meet my daily calorie goal. I've somewhat solved this by drinking protein shakes, eating more nuts and avocados. Anyone have any tips on how to eat enough calories?
I also eat a lot of avocado and nuts and I still don't hit my calorie goal (though usually right under it). Are you strictly no dairy? I find that Greek yogurt helps.0 -
Show me the science.It's a heavily science based diet utilizing the properties of evolution and the human body.
I love it. Marks Daily Apple is great, as well as Paleo Spirit blog.
Add me if you'd like. Paleo is so tough for the first couple weeks, after that-- well, you won't ever want to go back once you see how great you feel. Especially emotionally.
With all due respect, who is required to show you anything. It's readiy available. Find it. No free lunch. Find it or don't. Do it or don't.0 -
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I thought the same thing.0 -
You may find this video interesting, well worth the few mins it takes
youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc
You have to find the "diet" that works for you. I don't think you can go wrong eating meat, veggies and fruit though.0 -
Didn't the father of the Paleo diet say something to the effect of, "Our ancestors had to eat this way to stay in shape so that they could run away from the Dinosaurs that were always chasing them?" I'm sure I'm only paraphrasing... but - I can't take this stuff seriously after that.... LOL!
But seriously, ANY DIET that forbids you to eat something, is just a diet and not a maintainable lifestyle. If you can do something like this for a month or so and have it help you cut out processed crap - thats great, but really - are you going to never eat a potato for the rest of your life?
I prefer to lose weight the old fashioned way, moderation.0 -
You done?
Show me the science.It's a heavily science based diet utilizing the properties of evolution and the human body.
I love it. Marks Daily Apple is great, as well as Paleo Spirit blog.
Add me if you'd like. Paleo is so tough for the first couple weeks, after that-- well, you won't ever want to go back once you see how great you feel. Especially emotionally.
With all due respect, who is required to show you anything. It's readiy available. Find it. No free lunch. Find it or don't. Do it or don't.0 -
Eating that way might be fine at home, but what about when you eat out and they don't have a Paleo menu? Or go to a party? Or go on vacation? Any situation where other people are in charge of the food is going to be a tough challenge.0
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Thank you.
Show me the science.
It's not hard to find. Google is your friend, or one of the biggest proponents of this diet has a good amount of published research available here: http://thepaleodiet.com/published-research/
The other Paleo people wouldn't provide anything to back up their claims.
Thanks again.0 -
Cavemen didn't do such things. You're SOL.Eating that way might be fine at home, but what about when you eat out and they don't have a Paleo menu? Or go to a party? Or go on vacation? Any situation where other people are in charge of the food is going to be a tough challenge.
They were too busy being chased by sabretooth tigers.0 -
Cavemen didn't do such things. You're SOL.Eating that way might be fine at home, but what about when you eat out and they don't have a Paleo menu? Or go to a party? Or go on vacation? Any situation where other people are in charge of the food is going to be a tough challenge.
They were too busy being chased by sabretooth tigers.
This made me literally LOL. :laugh:
T-rex had such short arms, I just can't see how they were able to gobble up those cavemen... You ever try eating food thats NOT running away from you without hands?0 -
I highly suggest it! My cousin had two babies one after another, and she gained so much weight from it. She started the Paleo diet and lots ALL her baby fat plus some fat she had from before. She always told me how much she loved it too, and the food looked absolutely delicious!0
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Eating that way might be fine at home, but what about when you eat out and they don't have a Paleo menu? Or go to a party? Or go on vacation? Any situation where other people are in charge of the food is going to be a tough challenge.
Honestly, most places have meat and veggies. And can advise on which dishes are best for those with a gluten intolerance, for that matter. No need to over-complicate.0 -
You done?
Show me the science.It's a heavily science based diet utilizing the properties of evolution and the human body.
I love it. Marks Daily Apple is great, as well as Paleo Spirit blog.
Add me if you'd like. Paleo is so tough for the first couple weeks, after that-- well, you won't ever want to go back once you see how great you feel. Especially emotionally.
With all due respect, who is required to show you anything. It's readiy available. Find it. No free lunch. Find it or don't. Do it or don't.
Nope. There's been plenty of links posted in this thread. find 'em. Do the work. A google search isn't that much of a strain either. Nobody needs to prove anything to you.0 -
Didn't the father of the Paleo diet say something to the effect of, "Our ancestors had to eat this way to stay in shape so that they could run away from the Dinosaurs that were always chasing them?" I'm sure I'm only paraphrasing... but - I can't take this stuff seriously after that.... LOL!
But seriously, ANY DIET that forbids you to eat something, is just a diet and not a maintainable lifestyle. If you can do something like this for a month or so and have it help you cut out processed crap - thats great, but really - are you going to never eat a potato for the rest of your life?
I prefer to lose weight the old fashioned way, moderation.
Hey, good for you! But I don't see anyone coming here minimizing or condescending to your decision. Follow your own path with integrity but why do you feel it's your place to ridicule someone elses?0
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