To eat breakfast or not... that is the question?!
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Breakfast is a MUST, it's not a question at all. Eating breakfast gets your metabolism working and fuels you for the day, making you more likely to have the energy to work out. It's ideal to work out at night because then your metabolism works while you sleep through the night burning fat. Then when you eat a healthy breakfast the next morning, it makes your metabolism kick back in and it gives you the energy to go through your day and work out again.
Skipping breakfast and not eating multiple small meals a day is part of the reason women have a hard time losing weight.
There's actually no peer reviewed scientific evidence of this. If it works for you--great. But breakfast isn't a "magic meal" that "kickstarts" your metabolism. That's just pseudoscientific nonsense. You should eat when you're hungry, not when the clock says it's time to eat. Everyone will find this is just a little different for them. So it IS a question.
And there IS scientific, peer-reviewed, evidence that exercising "late at night" interferes with sleep; and sleep is essential to weight loss. You should not exercise heavily within 3 hours of bedtime, and should not use backlit LCD screens within one hour of bedtime for best sleep. Having your body think it's daytime is DEFINITELY NOT advantageous to sleep.0 -
WOW...scary stuff...
a "certified" nutritionist and then a dietician both giving advice that while not harmful is also not up to date and accurate.
Just reminds us all to take what you read with a grain of salt.
And your background is in...? Please do not mock a profession that you clearly take seriously. You read nutrition information all the time, and chose what suits you. If you feel that breakfast is not for you, simply state that, and don't hate. I spent hours consulting people with diabetes, renal disease, cardic diseases, tube feedings, and of course arrogants who believe their doing everything right- somewhat like yourself and visit me a year later with some health condition. I answered a question, in my professional opinion. I understand the physiology involved and you're scared of me? I am actually scared of you- Giving unfounded advice to those who need help. Respect the profession.
wow.....you perceived all that? what advice did I give that was unfounded?0 -
Having read through this entire thread I believe I have the gist of things: if you do not want to die a horrible death buried under a mountain of poop you should eat three dieticians before 7:00 AM EST no matter where you are on the earth unless you are in fact a dietician and then your metabolic carbonization intell-o-genic rate of cathertotronics protects you by sealing you in carbonite a la Han Solo.
I thank the baby Jesus every morning for this site. I love you all. Not at once you understand, that would just be sick, you pervs. But one at a time the way God intended it.
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Wait a second, you attacked my opinion first. I didn't attack yours. I simply stated my opinion based on studies and a nutritionist I talk to. I shouldn't have to to teach you how to use Google, look up the Mayo clinic, Livestrong, or call a nutritionist. I'm not saying eating breakfast is the direct leading factor to weight loss itself, but it gives you the energy to work out and the earlier you have your calories in the day, the sooner you start fueling your body and the less likely you will be vulnerable to bad choices when you do become hungry.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/25335-breakfast-helps-weight-loss/
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/food-and-nutrition/AN01119
Okay, I checked and while the Mayo Clinic does say breakfast MAY BE advantageous to weight loss, it most certainly doesn't have any peer-reviewed studies showing even a correlative link between eating breakfast and weight loss. In fact, it uses a lot of "may bes," mights," and "considers." Nowhere close to the "isn'teven a question" that you posted. There is a lot of question, and not a lot of evidence. Since eating breakfast works for you, by all means do it, but there most certainly IS question as to whether it's actually necessary.0 -
WOW...scary stuff...
a "certified" nutritionist and then a dietician both giving advice that while not harmful is also not up to date and accurate.
Just reminds us all to take what you read with a grain of salt.
And your background is in...? Please do not mock a profession that you clearly take seriously. You read nutrition information all the time, and chose what suits you. If you feel that breakfast is not for you, simply state that, and don't hate. I spent hours consulting people with diabetes, renal disease, cardic diseases, tube feedings, and of course arrogants who believe their doing everything right- somewhat like yourself and visit me a year later with some health condition. I answered a question, in my professional opinion. I understand the physiology involved and you're scared of me? I am actually scared of you- Giving unfounded advice to those who need help. Respect the profession.
wow.....you perceived all that? what advice did I give that was unfounded?
sorry, i guess i felt attacked. you're right you didnt offer any advice.0 -
I love breakfast but some days if I have to run out or we get up late or I am not hungry I wait for lunch. I don't believe in force feeding my kids so why would I force feed myself. Do what works for you as long as you are losing weight and happy with your progress. By the way my kids are 18 and 13 so lets not get all crazy thinking I have babies or little ones and not feeding them. My answer to them is your hungry eat you're not don't. :laugh:0
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Am J Clin Nutr. 2010 Dec;92(6):1316-25. Epub 2010 Oct 6.
Skipping breakfast: longitudinal associations with cardiometabolic risk factors in the Childhood Determinants of Adult Health Study.
Smith KJ, Gall SL, McNaughton SA, Blizzard L, Dwyer T, Venn AJ.
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Menzies Research Institute, University of Tasmania, Tasmania, Australia. k.j.smith@utas.edu.au
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
The long-term effects of skipping breakfast on cardiometabolic health are not well understood.
OBJECTIVE:
The objective was to examine longitudinal associations of breakfast skipping in childhood and adulthood with cardiometabolic risk factors in adulthood.
DESIGN:
In 1985, a national sample of 9-15-y-old Australian children reported whether they usually ate breakfast before school. During follow-up in 2004-2006, 2184 participants (26-36 y of age) completed a meal-frequency chart for the previous day. Skipping breakfast was defined as not eating between 0600 and 0900. Participants were classified into 4 groups: skipped breakfast in neither childhood nor adulthood (n = 1359), skipped breakfast only in childhood (n = 224), skipped breakfast only in adulthood (n = 515), and skipped breakfast in both childhood and adulthood (n = 86). Diet quality was assessed, waist circumference was measured, and blood samples were taken after a 12-h fast (n = 1730). Differences in mean waist circumference and blood glucose, insulin, and lipid concentrations were calculated by linear regression.
RESULTS:
After adjustment for age, sex, and sociodemographic and lifestyle factors, participants who skipped breakfast in both childhood and adulthood had a larger waist circumference (mean difference: 4.63 cm; 95% CI: 1.72, 7.53 cm) and higher fasting insulin (mean difference: 2.02 mU/L; 95% CI: 0.75, 3.29 mU/L), total cholesterol (mean difference: 0.40 mmol/L; 95% CI: 0.13, 0.68 mmol/L), and LDL cholesterol (mean difference: 0.40 mmol/L; 95% CI: 0.16, 0.64 mmol/L) concentrations than did those who ate breakfast at both time points. Additional adjustments for diet quality and waist circumference attenuated the associations with cardiometabolic variables, but the differences remained significant.
CONCLUSIONS:
Skipping breakfast over a long period may have detrimental effects on cardiometabolic health. Promoting the benefits of eating breakfast could be a simple and important public health message0 -
Hey Everyone,
I have recently been certified as a nutrition specialist through AASDN.
I am here to tell you that breakfast is an essential meal for everyone!
Think about your body being a car.
Your car will not run properly if you dont put fuel into it, well thats the same thing with your body.
Breakfast is your fuel that will help replenish your energy after it has gone through hours of starvation from sleep.
if you skip breakfast, your body will use up fuels from other sources and deplete your nutrient storages.
This slows down your metabolism and will in the end cause you to need less calories through out the day!
So if you eat when you wake up, your body will have enough charge to work faster, better and stronger.
Also you'll be less hungry later on in the day!
If you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask!
Okay. As a recent graduate of an accredited school you should have all the studies that support this handy. Could you list the authors, journals, dates and pages for us? Because my body isn't a car, it's a body, and food isn't gasoline.0 -
Am J Clin Nutr. 2010 Dec;92(6):1316-25. Epub 2010 Oct 6.
Skipping breakfast: longitudinal associations with cardiometabolic risk factors in the Childhood Determinants of Adult Health Study.
Smith KJ, Gall SL, McNaughton SA, Blizzard L, Dwyer T, Venn AJ.
Source
Menzies Research Institute, University of Tasmania, Tasmania, Australia. k.j.smith@utas.edu.au
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
The long-term effects of skipping breakfast on cardiometabolic health are not well understood.
OBJECTIVE:
The objective was to examine longitudinal associations of breakfast skipping in childhood and adulthood with cardiometabolic risk factors in adulthood.
DESIGN:
In 1985, a national sample of 9-15-y-old Australian children reported whether they usually ate breakfast before school. During follow-up in 2004-2006, 2184 participants (26-36 y of age) completed a meal-frequency chart for the previous day. Skipping breakfast was defined as not eating between 0600 and 0900. Participants were classified into 4 groups: skipped breakfast in neither childhood nor adulthood (n = 1359), skipped breakfast only in childhood (n = 224), skipped breakfast only in adulthood (n = 515), and skipped breakfast in both childhood and adulthood (n = 86). Diet quality was assessed, waist circumference was measured, and blood samples were taken after a 12-h fast (n = 1730). Differences in mean waist circumference and blood glucose, insulin, and lipid concentrations were calculated by linear regression.
RESULTS:
After adjustment for age, sex, and sociodemographic and lifestyle factors, participants who skipped breakfast in both childhood and adulthood had a larger waist circumference (mean difference: 4.63 cm; 95% CI: 1.72, 7.53 cm) and higher fasting insulin (mean difference: 2.02 mU/L; 95% CI: 0.75, 3.29 mU/L), total cholesterol (mean difference: 0.40 mmol/L; 95% CI: 0.13, 0.68 mmol/L), and LDL cholesterol (mean difference: 0.40 mmol/L; 95% CI: 0.16, 0.64 mmol/L) concentrations than did those who ate breakfast at both time points. Additional adjustments for diet quality and waist circumference attenuated the associations with cardiometabolic variables, but the differences remained significant.
CONCLUSIONS:
Skipping breakfast over a long period may have detrimental effects on cardiometabolic health. Promoting the benefits of eating breakfast could be a simple and important public health message
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You DON'T have to eat breakfast. Some like to eat breakfast. Basically since we're all individuals with different metabolisms and genetics, you pick what you think is working best for you.
I used to eat breakfast all the time. As of the last few months I've skipped it and haven't had any adverse affects nor have my workouts been compromised.
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Hey Everyone,
I have recently been certified as a nutrition specialist through AASDN.
I am here to tell you that breakfast is an essential meal for everyone!
Think about your body being a car.
Your car will not run properly if you dont put fuel into it, well thats the same thing with your body.
Breakfast is your fuel that will help replenish your energy after it has gone through hours of starvation from sleep.
if you skip breakfast, your body will use up fuels from other sources and deplete your nutrient storages.
This slows down your metabolism and will in the end cause you to need less calories through out the day!
So if you eat when you wake up, your body will have enough charge to work faster, better and stronger.
Also you'll be less hungry later on in the day!
If you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask!
When I treat my body exactly like a car, I fill it up once a day. And guess what, my car runs just fine till the next day, and so does my body. If your fitness is such that not eating breakfast hurts your performance, then eat it. If not, then don't. But don't put blanket statements on to the general population.
And people aren't cars. It's a bad analogy. I put gas in my car once a month--less often if it's motorcycle weather. And I don't put gas in my car or my motorcycles until they are empty. I don't feel the need to "kickstart" them by giving them gas to "break the fast" every time I use them. In fact, I filled my bikes in November, and though I've had opportunities to use them this winter (several times each month ;-) ), neither is empty and I haven't filled them at all. Unlike my body, my car and motorcycles don't use fuel when they are just sitting in the garage.
PEOPLE ARE NOT CARS! FOOD IS NOT GASOLINE! Stop pretending it is.0 -
Hey Everyone,
I have recently been certified as a nutrition specialist through AASDN.
I am here to tell you that breakfast is an essential meal for everyone!
Think about your body being a car.
Your car will not run properly if you dont put fuel into it, well thats the same thing with your body.
Breakfast is your fuel that will help replenish your energy after it has gone through hours of starvation from sleep.
if you skip breakfast, your body will use up fuels from other sources and deplete your nutrient storages.
This slows down your metabolism and will in the end cause you to need less calories through out the day!
So if you eat when you wake up, your body will have enough charge to work faster, better and stronger.
Also you'll be less hungry later on in the day!
If you have any questions, please dont hesitate to ask!
::Raises hand:: I have questions
Do you have any actual evidence that not eating breakfast depletes your nutrient storage? And why would your body using fuel from other sources be a bad thing, if let's say it's fat?
And any evidence that merely skipping breakfast slows down your metabolism?
And in your nutrition courses did you learn anything about not talking in absolute terms, like "I am here to tell you that breakfast is an essential meal for everyone"?
Have you ever learned that you sound like an obnoxious know-it-all with your responses.0 -
Sidesteal and Alexpapa, you guys are wearing me out- I'm gonna have breakfast!
enjoy, I have my stop watch on so I know exactly when you'll be pooping
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The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
What a marvelous display of jabberwocky!0 -
Sidesteal and Alexpapa, you guys are wearing me out- I'm gonna have breakfast!
enjoy, I have my stop watch on so I know exactly when you'll be pooping
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The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
What a marvelous display of jabberwocky!
Please feel free to reteach the proper way...... go on....... ohhhhhh you can't that's what I thought.0 -
Sidesteal and Alexpapa, you guys are wearing me out- I'm gonna have breakfast!
enjoy, I have my stop watch on so I know exactly when you'll be pooping
Did already
speaking of poop, I'm interested in the reasoning behind bowel movement AFTER breakfast.
I do in fact go once a day, very regularly about 3 hours after waking up.
How is this not a good thing?0 -
speaking of poop, I'm interested in the reasoning behind bowel movement AFTER breakfast.
I do in fact go once a day, very regularly about 3 hours after waking up.
How is this not a good thing?
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all eating breakfast does is kick start ketosis, your fat burning furnace.......0
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Hi, I'm new to this, but as a dietitian thought I may shed some light. Thank you for sharing your feelings. Typically the advice for the general public is issued because there is evidence based research that shows some sort of significance in the nutrition statement. The reason that breakfast is touted so much is because it has SOOOOO many benefits. All throughout school junior, high and some of college I had NO breakfast, in fact many days I didn't eat until about 3 pm. I did this for no particular reason, just because. UNTIL I learned about ketosis, metabolism and overall energy and what no food does to your body.
AS health professionals we're not saying scarf down a 600+ calories, in fact the fewer calories, and more nutritiously sound options, the better. A glass of milk and a banana are more than sufficient. Try to eat a complex carb (for the energy you need), a lean protein (to help you stay full) and something with fiber (to help stabilize your blood sugar levels).
The reason you are hungrier throughout the day, is because your body is burning more calories, hence losing more weight. Just like when you turn on a car, gas is being used, making the need to refuel more often-- breakfast turns on your "metabolic engine" Just refuel with lower cal picks- Hope this helps.
So you are saying that this so called ” engine” turns off? Please elaborate on this
The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
thanks for the information, and I think that it all applies on extended fasts. But extending the fast by 4 hours for instance?
My personal experience is that skipping breakfast is fine for me, I do not feel tipsy, groggy, tired, lethargic, cranky or otherwise.
Works for me.
My job is to offer you more information to make a more enlightened choice. Try breakfast for a week, if you don't poop within an hour of eating, know that its not right for you- however if you do (poop), you will better understand that your "metabolic engine" has been turned on and is revving to go.
Due to medications and cancer treatment, I never poop within an hour of any meal. I have a set goal to poop once a day and usually am able to achieve five poops a week. Does this mean I should only eat 5 times a week? I'm not sold on the idea that I should eat based on my poop schedule...0 -
Some of the more recent experts "Mike Geary" now say not to eat breakfast. That does NOT mean to skip healthy breakfast like eggs or oats it just means eat it a bit later. Reason is if you eat first thing you have more of a chance of eating more in the day! Also best to exercise on empty stomach so forget the breakfast first thing and get out the door for a jog and then eat a good healthy (but late) breakfast!!0
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Due to medications and cancer treatment, I never poop within an hour of any meal. I have a set goal to poop once a day and usually am able to achieve five poops a week. Does this mean I should only eat 5 times a week? I'm not sold on the idea that I should eat based on my poop schedule...
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Clearly yours is a unique case. I would hope cancer patients would eat in general, since they tend to lose their appetite, have nausea and lose sense of taste for you to be eating at all is great. Good luck with your treatment. And Im pretty sure youre working closely with a dietitian or at least should be so why the condescending remark? Im here to help, why the hate?0 -
The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
What a marvelous display of jabberwocky!
Please feel free to reteach the proper way...... go on....... ohhhhhh you can't that's what I thought.
You've thrown out a lot of pseudotechnical terms (and misused some--increased acid in the blood isn't ketosis, increased ketones is--you were ascribing the lowered pH to lactic acid) in an effort to confuse people into assuming what you say MUST be true. It isn't.0 -
The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
What a marvelous display of jabberwocky!
Please feel free to reteach the proper way...... go on....... ohhhhhh you can't that's what I thought.
You've thrown out a lot of pseudotechnical terms (and misused some--increased acid in the blood isn't ketosis, increased ketones is--you were ascribing the lowered pH to lactic acid) in an effort to confuse people into assuming what you say MUST be true. It isn't.
THEN PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US...YOU'LL FIND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THIS IS BIOCHEMISTRY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT BIOCHEMISTRY IS, HOW ABOUT NUTRIENT METABOLISM, HOW ABOUT BIOLOGICAL PARAMETERS. IF SO PLEASE IN USER FRIENDLY TERMS SAY YOUR PIECE. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING INSULTS INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION- BRING IT BABY! I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT AND STAND BEHIND IT, YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO UNINFORMED OR RATHER WORSE- ILLINFORMED TO CONCEDE. BOW OUT GRACEFULLY AND ADMIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS TOPIC. I EAT, BREATHE AND WORK THIS EVERYDAY IN BURN PATIENTS, COMA PATIENTS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE GASTRECTOMIES. DON'T DIMINISH MY EXPERTISE BECAUSE YOU READ A BOOK ONCE UPON A TIME. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DISPUTE SO IT, OTHERWISE YOU FALL INTO THE REALM OF UNNECESSARY HATER.0 -
The reason its called breakfast, is because it indeed, breaks your fasting, whatever time you have your first meal is considered breakfast. You have a lull in energy intake while sleeping, but you still have physiologic functions, for ex. gas exchanges, growth and repair and regulating body temperature- all which require ATP- or energy. When you aren't consuming calories, the body uses the stored glycogen in your liver, when that runs out for prolonged periods of fasting, it takes glycogen from your muscles and fat. This is harmful because prolonged catabolism can lead to increased lactic acid build up. Your body has a pH of 7.4, added acid reduces your pH levels, increasing acid in your blood- this is called ketosis. This type of fuel cannot be used by the brain (because the brain protects itself from toxicity). This is why fasting can make one feel tipsy and groggy.
From what I understand this site is for HEALTHIER lifestyes, not dying to be thinness. I am recommending breakfast one hour within your time of waking up, to start your metabolism and stop the ketosis process. Grabbing something small is fine, just eat something! The point that many are not understanding is that when you eat, you are hungrier because your metabolism needs energy in order to digest the food, this is how you lose weight properly. Hope this helps.
What a marvelous display of jabberwocky!
Please feel free to reteach the proper way...... go on....... ohhhhhh you can't that's what I thought.
You've thrown out a lot of pseudotechnical terms (and misused some--increased acid in the blood isn't ketosis, increased ketones is--you were ascribing the lowered pH to lactic acid) in an effort to confuse people into assuming what you say MUST be true. It isn't.
THEN PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US...YOU'LL FIND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THIS IS BIOCHEMISTRY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT BIOCHEMISTRY IS, HOW ABOUT NUTRIENT METABOLISM, ABPUT BIOLOGICAL PARAMETERS. IF SO PLEASE IN USER FRIENDLY TERMS SAY YOUR PIECE. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING INSULTS INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION- BRING IT BABY! I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT AND STAND BEHIND IT, YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO UNINFORMED OR RATHER WORSE- ILLINFORMED TO CONCEDE. BOW OUT GRACEFULLY AND ADMIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS TOPIC. I EAT, BREATHE AND WORK THIS EVERYDAY IN BURN PATIENTS, COMA PATIENTS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE GASTRECTOMIES. DON'T DIMINISH MY EXPERTISE BECAUSE YOU READ A BOOK ONCE UPON A TIME. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DISPUTE SO IT, OTHERWISE YOU FALL INTO THE REALM OF UNNECESSARY HATER.
As everyone knows, caps strengthen your argument (even if that argument is utter nonsense).Diabetes Metab Syndr Obes. 2011;4:409-16. Epub 2011 Dec 15.
Effect of Ramadan fasting on metabolic markers, body composition, and dietary intake in Emiratis of Ajman (UAE) with metabolic syndrome.
Sadiya A, Ahmed S, Siddieg HH, Babas IJ, Carlsson M.
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Rashid Centre for Diabetes and Research, Ministry of Health, Ajman, UAE.
Abstract
BACKGROUND/AIM:
The aim of the study was to evaluate the effect of Ramadan fasting on metabolic markers, body composition and dietary intake in native Emiratis of Ajman, UAE with the metabolic syndrome (MS).
DESIGN:
19 patients (14 Female, 5 Male) aged 37.1 ± 12.5 years, were encouraged healthy lifestyle changes during fasting and data was collected 1 week before and in the fourth week of Ramadan.
RESULTS:
No patients experienced complications or increased symptoms of hypoglycemia during Ramadan. Total energy consumption remained similar. Meal frequency decreased (3.2 ± 0.5 vs 2.1 ± 0.4 meals/day). Protein intake decreased 12% (P = 0.04) but fat intake increased 23% (P = 0.03). Body weight (103.9 ± 29.8 vs 102.1 ± 29.0 kg, P = 0.001) and waist circumference (123 ± 14 vs 119 ± 17 cm, P = 0.001) decreased. Forty percent of patients increased their physical activity due to increased praying hours. Fasting P-glucose (6.3 ± 1.7 vs 6.8 ± 2.0 mmol/L, P = 0.024) and B-HbA(1c) concentrations 6.3 ± 0.9 vs 6.5% ± 0.9%, P = 0.003) increased but P-insulin concentration, HOMA-IR index and lipid concentrations remained unchanged.
CONCLUSION:
The present study investigated the effect of Ramadan fasting on dietary intake, metabolic parameters and body composition showing that the energy consumption per day did not decrease, although the fat intake increased. However, the patients lost weight and reduced their waist circumference. Ramadan fasting has also elicited small but significant increases in Glucose and HbA(1c) after 4 weeks.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22253539J Public Health (Oxf). 2011 Nov 13. [Epub ahead of print]
Weight change during and after Ramadan fasting.
Hajek P, Myers K, Dhanji AR, West O, McRobbie H.
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Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary, University of London, London Newark Street, London E1 2AT, UK.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
During Ramadan, observant Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset for a month. Knowing whether Ramadan fasting affects body weight has implications for health advice to the Muslim community, for understanding the effects of skipping meals on body weight, and for general weight management advice.
METHODS:
We compared body weight before and after the Ramadan fast and 1 month later in observant Muslims attending a Mosque in East London, UK.
RESULTS:
In 202 participants who provided weight at the beginning and the end of Ramadan, there was a small weight decrease (-0.84 kg, 95% CI = -0.6 to -1, P < 0.0001), with 46% of participants losing >1 kg. Participants who fasted throughout Ramadan lost significantly more weight (1 kg) than those who occasionally broke fast (0.3 kg, P = 0.013). In 87 participants who provided weight at the beginning and end of Ramadan and also 1 month later, all the lost weight was regained (+0.1 kg, 95% CI = 0.2-0.5, P = 0.504 compared with baseline).
CONCLUSIONS:
Observers of Ramadan lose on average about a kilogram of weight over 4 weeks, and the lost weight is quickly regained. Current weight management treatments generally assume that skipping meals leads to weight gain and advise against it. The finding suggests that further research is needed on the justification of the 'do not skip meals' advice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/220832560 -
THEN PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US...YOU'LL FIND YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THIS IS BIOCHEMISTRY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT BIOCHEMISTRY IS, HOW ABOUT NUTRIENT METABOLISM, HOW ABOUT BIOLOGICAL PARAMETERS. IF SO PLEASE IN USER FRIENDLY TERMS SAY YOUR PIECE. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING INSULTS INSTEAD OF ANSWERING THE QUESTION- BRING IT BABY! I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT AND STAND BEHIND IT, YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO UNINFORMED OR RATHER WORSE- ILLINFORMED TO CONCEDE. BOW OUT GRACEFULLY AND ADMIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS TOPIC. I EAT, BREATHE AND WORK THIS EVERYDAY IN BURN PATIENTS, COMA PATIENTS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE GASTRECTOMIES. DON'T DIMINISH MY EXPERTISE BECAUSE YOU READ A BOOK ONCE UPON A TIME. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DISPUTE SO IT, OTHERWISE YOU FALL INTO THE REALM OF UNNECESSARY HATER.
This arguement between you and the others is just fascinating...
However, in case you didn't notice, you were asked for studies proving your words. You haven't sourced anything but a overview of a study whose conclusion was "may" not "is" thus not proving your words.
These guys have alot of respect around here because they can back up their statements with scientific fact. You haven't shown any. Why should anyone believe you over them? You're a troll on the internet until you can back up your statements and screaming "I HAZ A DEGREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I HAZ A JOB!" doesn't mean bubkis. You're an anonymous user of the internet. Just because you say you're something doesn't mean it's true.
And bringing poo into conversation? Way to misdirect. Just because they're guys doesn't mean they'll be distracted into poo jokes. :huh:0 -
I absolutely can not be bothered reading this whole thing, but I wanted to add that I LOVE BREAKFAST and feel wrong if I don't have it within half an hour of waking up.
YAY BREAKFAST.
As you were.0 -
Are you saying that one should poop after every meal (6 times I presume based on your enlightened information)
Using a toilet plunger burns 150 calories/hour so this could indeed increase your energy expenditure.
My god we're onto something.
aah, it's the cardio of pooping, got it now. I'm sure it has something to do with stoking a "fire" of sorts.
Especially if you had lots of hot peppers in the previous meal.0 -
As everyone knows, caps strengthen your argument (even if that argument is utter nonsense).Diabetes Metab Syndr Obes. 2011;4:409-16. Epub 2011 Dec 15.
Effect of Ramadan fasting on metabolic markers, body composition, and dietary intake in Emiratis of Ajman (UAE) with metabolic syndrome.
Sadiya A, Ahmed S, Siddieg HH, Babas IJ, Carlsson M.
Source
Rashid Centre for Diabetes and Research, Ministry of Health, Ajman, UAE.
Abstract
BACKGROUND/AIM:
The aim of the study was to evaluate the effect of Ramadan fasting on metabolic markers, body composition and dietary intake in native Emiratis of Ajman, UAE with the metabolic syndrome (MS).
DESIGN:
19 patients (14 Female, 5 Male) aged 37.1 ± 12.5 years, were encouraged healthy lifestyle changes during fasting and data was collected 1 week before and in the fourth week of Ramadan.
RESULTS:
No patients experienced complications or increased symptoms of hypoglycemia during Ramadan. Total energy consumption remained similar. Meal frequency decreased (3.2 ± 0.5 vs 2.1 ± 0.4 meals/day). Protein intake decreased 12% (P = 0.04) but fat intake increased 23% (P = 0.03). Body weight (103.9 ± 29.8 vs 102.1 ± 29.0 kg, P = 0.001) and waist circumference (123 ± 14 vs 119 ± 17 cm, P = 0.001) decreased. Forty percent of patients increased their physical activity due to increased praying hours. Fasting P-glucose (6.3 ± 1.7 vs 6.8 ± 2.0 mmol/L, P = 0.024) and B-HbA(1c) concentrations 6.3 ± 0.9 vs 6.5% ± 0.9%, P = 0.003) increased but P-insulin concentration, HOMA-IR index and lipid concentrations remained unchanged.
CONCLUSION:
The present study investigated the effect of Ramadan fasting on dietary intake, metabolic parameters and body composition showing that the energy consumption per day did not decrease, although the fat intake increased. However, the patients lost weight and reduced their waist circumference. Ramadan fasting has also elicited small but significant increases in Glucose and HbA(1c) after 4 weeks.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22253539J Public Health (Oxf). 2011 Nov 13. [Epub ahead of print]
Weight change during and after Ramadan fasting.
Hajek P, Myers K, Dhanji AR, West O, McRobbie H.
Source
Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine, Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry, Queen Mary, University of London, London Newark Street, London E1 2AT, UK.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
During Ramadan, observant Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset for a month. Knowing whether Ramadan fasting affects body weight has implications for health advice to the Muslim community, for understanding the effects of skipping meals on body weight, and for general weight management advice.
METHODS:
We compared body weight before and after the Ramadan fast and 1 month later in observant Muslims attending a Mosque in East London, UK.
RESULTS:
In 202 participants who provided weight at the beginning and the end of Ramadan, there was a small weight decrease (-0.84 kg, 95% CI = -0.6 to -1, P < 0.0001), with 46% of participants losing >1 kg. Participants who fasted throughout Ramadan lost significantly more weight (1 kg) than those who occasionally broke fast (0.3 kg, P = 0.013). In 87 participants who provided weight at the beginning and end of Ramadan and also 1 month later, all the lost weight was regained (+0.1 kg, 95% CI = 0.2-0.5, P = 0.504 compared with baseline).
CONCLUSIONS:
Observers of Ramadan lose on average about a kilogram of weight over 4 weeks, and the lost weight is quickly regained. Current weight management treatments generally assume that skipping meals leads to weight gain and advise against it. The finding suggests that further research is needed on the justification of the 'do not skip meals' advice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22083256
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MUSLIMS EAT BREAKFAST BEFORE THE DAWN PRAYERS!0 -
And then they fast for up to 20 hours (depending on the time of year that Ramadan falls). Yet their metabolism doesn't break, and there are actually many improvements in their health markers. Studies on alternate-day fasting show similar results.
Still waiting for your evidence that breakfast "jump starts teh metabolismz".0
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