Down 12 pds!! South Beach Diet Rocks!!!

rmchan

Guys if you are seriously struggling to lose weight and you feel that you are doing things right with food/exercise but not seing any results...try the South Beach Diet. My doctor recommended it to me; I thought he was crazy!!! But I am down 12 pounds and I feel great! I immediately saw the results in my waist!

rmchan

Guys if you are seriously struggling to lose weight and you feel that you are doing things right with food/exercise but not seing any results...try the South Beach Diet. My doctor recommended it to me; I thought he was crazy!!! But I am down 12 pounds and I feel great! I immediately saw the results in my waist!

Dave198lbs

It is a good regimen

I like their attitude towards sugar

aymie24

Wow, I was just looking for info on SBD! I have been tossing the idea around since simply eating clean and healthy doesn't seem to be doing it for me like it was the first few weeks. I have a long way to go and have stalled out. Granted, the past few weeks have been incredibly stressful and I know that is getting in my way.

I bought the sugar busters book and am going to start reading it today. I have read SBD a couple of times. I have some of the cookbooks as well. I just have never really been on a real "diet" and I don't like the idea so I've never tried anything like SBD.

So glad to hear that it's working well for you!!! Keep us posted please! 12 lb is wonderful!

Dave198lbs

Wow, I was just looking for info on SBD! I have been tossing the idea around since simply eating clean and healthy doesn't seem to be doing it for me like it was the first few weeks. I have a long way to go and have stalled out. Granted, the past few weeks have been incredibly stressful and I know that is getting in my way.

I bought the sugar busters book and am going to start reading it today. I have read SBD a couple of times. I have some of the cookbooks as well. I just have never really been on a real "diet" and I don't like the idea so I've never tried anything like SBD.

So glad to hear that it's working well for you!!! Keep us posted please! 12 lb is wonderful!

The Sugar Busters book will really open your eyes about sugar
it sure did for me

CALIECAT

I have got my South Beach Diet book out and plan to start in the morning. My daughter is on it and has lost pretty good. Since I change my diet about every month I thought I would give this a try. Have had the book for ages. Might as well put it to used.
caliecat

rmchan

Seriously guys I have/had tried everything!! I used to teach aerobics, did several bike-a-thons, taught water aerobics, lifeguarded, taught swimming, kayaked, i currently play on a tennis team.. I was exercising 3-4 times a week , tossed the diet coke replaced it with water, watched my calorie intake and everyday when i would hit finish my log- it would tell me that i should lose so many pounds by a date..never happened i had lost 2 pds in 21/2 month.. i went to a hollistic, obgyn/surgeion and he did bloodwork- no diebetes, no thyroid problems...so he put me on progestrone...still no loss...went back and he told me that my body at this age just was not matabolising the carbs like they once did and that i needed to do south beach diet starting with phase 1----no sugar, no white anything, no fruit only lean cuts of meat, fat free cheese, lots of veggies,etc for the 2 weeks then move to phase 2 introducing back in fruits, and WHOLE GRAIN/Wheats not enriched! The first 5 days of phase 1 i lost 4 pds and my stomach was much smaller by the end of that week i was down 6 pds!! now i am in phase 2 and i am losing an average of 2 pds per week. I also have the cookbooks (great help) and the book.. the cool thing about this diet is it's great for your heart and it's something you can do long term..once you reach your goal you go on maintenance if you put some back on then switch to phase 1 or phase 2...do me a favor try it and let me know your results..but no varying the first 2 weeks...

CALIECAT

I am goingg to give it my all.

Here's a question for Dave, I remember you said once that Subway Buns had way too many carbs for one sitting? I too found that out on a motor trip. My blood sugar spike way up. I am on insulin and I do have to watch my carbs. Do you watch your carbs?

will be checking in thu out the week

Thanks Rmchan for starting this thread.

rmchan

Yeah Dave I do as well.. Also this diet was created for a healthy heart and for people with diabetes..which i have a lot of heart disease and diabetes in my family! I always enjoy your post- Thanks

CALIECAT

Rmchan, How long have you been on this diet? and I am a diabetic.

Caliecat

CALIECAT

Good morning. I am ready to start my SBD this morning. Look like rain tho., will have to find something to keep my mind off food. Going to be making SF jello for sure. I am excited aout this. My Menu for today is : Breakfast:---- 1/2 c eggbeaters., 6 oz. of tomatoes juice
snack---- string cheese
Lunch----Gdrilled chicken. salad , jello
Snack----cucumbers and laughing cow light
Dinner----Fish, green beans, chopped salad.
Snack---- ricotti cheese


Will have to go to store and pick up a few items.

Good luck to all who is trying to lose weight.

Callie

kitikat

I have been doing SBD since feb 23 so i'm in phase 2. I have lost 11lbs so far. Remeber 1/2 cups veggies with breakfast and 2 cups each with lunch and dinner.For breakfast I still have a 1 egg omlet with a mix of veggies.(peppers.tomatoes,green onions and lots of spinach) :flowerforyou:

CALIECAT

Kat---are you please with the diet? Is that what it boils down to/ 1/2 C vegies at breakfast and 2 c of veggies for the othere meals along with the lean meats.

Callie

CALIECAT

I stuck by my plans today. And filled quite satisffy and slightly stuff. Haven't got my plans for tomorrow but will be close to what I had today. I have to eat the same thing over and over for my DH do not eat what I eat.To save on our grocer bill i just keep eating it till it is all gone. I got plenty of Jello SF made up today and a big chopped salad.so all I have to do is filled in with a lean meat and some frozen veggies. I did get some ricotti cheese but did not really care for it. But I will eat it. I like my yogurt better. Oh well I can stick it out for 2 weeks dthen I can have my yogurt. I love the greek yogurt with some slice strawberries. NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know how you are doing this if you are following the SBD.

Marie

kitikat

Kat---are you please with the diet? Is that what it boils down to/ 1/2 C vegies at breakfast and 2 c of veggies for the othere meals along with the lean meats.

Callie

I am very satisfied with SBD. It's lost of veggies, lean meat(I only eat chicken breast) ,beans, good grains, fruits and dairy. Somedays I wish the weight loss was more but i'm eating healthier than i have in years and also my kids eating better. if i don't buy or cook bad stuff they do't get it. Don't get me wrong they do get treats yesterday i made some oameal raisin chocloate chip cookies . and last week i made dark chocolate fiber one cookies. It's just a better choice than store bought and not knowing what is in them.
Also i say i spend more time in the kitchen preparing and cooking. But i love it.

CALIECAT

Hi Kat--- thanks for writing. I love my beans. especially Pinto beans. Can I have them on Phase 1 ?. I made it just fine on my first day. waiting for Sat to get here to WI
Callie

kitikat

yes you can have beans.
Where in wis are you. I grew up in green bay. I moved to virginia when i was 18.:flowerforyou:

CALIECAT

I live in Mesquite,Texas East of Dallas about 12 miles. We really say we are from Dallas. We have been in this house for 53 years. Just been out checking on our flowers and little garden . the rain we had yesterday was a happy thing.
Oh boy I will get me some pinto soaking tonight and have them to eat. I am not a big meat eater..
but do love my beans. Is there a limit on them?

Caliecat

CALIECAT

Good morning, rmchan,kitkat and all the rest of you, I had a good day yesterday. 2 days in a row and my scales are moving down and that make me a Happy camper.

Kat thanks for all the information. I greatly appreciate it. I am going to cook some beans today. yummy.

Have a great day all
Caaliecat

rmchan

I thought this might help.. Keep me posted!!!
below is some samples of what i ate...i would suggest buying a bag of chicken and cooking the entire bag to use throughout the week.. have any more questions; give me a hollar! Let me know how it works for you! It will amaze you but don't cheat and for some reason you do...get back on schedule!
breakfast:
1 egg scambled served over a slice of canadian bacon with slice of Borden Fat Free Cheese on top or
1 egg with 2 slices of Oscar Mayer Turkey bacon

snack:
2 tablespoons of red fat peanut butter on celery
or 12 almonds or veggies with below dip

lunch:
1/2 cup lima beans
piece of chicken
green beans
or salad with black olives, cucumber, kraft fat free cheese, dressing (see recipe) with chicken
recipe for dressing also great with veggies: 11/2 cups of nonfat plain yogurt with a pack of hidden valley ranch dressing seasoning
dinner: a lean piece of meat, with either salad or veggies or a stir fry
dessert: fat free/sugar free instant choc pudding prepared topped with sugar free cool whip with crushed nuts on top

CALIECAT

Thanks rmchan.

I like your menu. That dressing sounds good. Will have to give it a try.
How much weight have you lost now? I think I better run to the store and pick up some of the ranch dressing to mix up. I been eating a lot of chicken. but I have really miss my yogurt. Just seen where we can have the plain. I wonder about greek plain yogurt , that is my faverite I have already lost 2 lbs that I had gained last week. that make me a happy camper. Thanks ffor starting this thread. And thanks for your help.

Caliecat

CALIECAT

Still on my program. So far so good.
Got me some bib lettuce and will make a hamburger using it as a bun for lunch.

Have a good day all.
Caliecat

kendallalissa

Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't sound like a permanent life changing thing to me. Too rigid. I don't "diet," but rather just eat what I want that is nutritious. Please enlighten me. My mother and father-in-law started the SBD like a month ago. I am not onboard for them to do it, but maybe I just need educated.

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CALIECAT

Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't sound like a permanent life changing thing to me. Too rigid. I don't "diet," but rather just eat what I want that is nutritious. Please enlighten me. My mother and father-in-law started the SBD like a month ago. I am not onboard for them to do it, but maybe I just need educated.

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Hi In answer to your question. I am 78 years old. and I have been on many diets. This is by far one of the best. If you follow it like you are surpose to you should get everything that your body needs. Many doctors are recomending it. My daughter doctor told her to get on it. And she has done wonders on it.
wouldn'.t worry about you mom and dad as long as they are getting a varity of the food groups. The first 2 weeks only you go without fruit and bread products And then you add them back in. I am still in phase 1 another week to go and I have not miss the bread or fruits yet. Been eating a lot of SF jello tho. I am glad I got on it.

Caliecat

LeanLioness

Hi, it is nice to see other carb watching faces on this board!!!!

I am doing Atkins because the structeredness (if that is a word, LOL) helps me to stay accountable!!!

I am also diabetic and have to severely watch my carb intake.

I am exploring new recipes so I don't get bored and go off plan.

I am just now recovering from a 2 month binge after losing 30 pounds initially.

CALIECAT

Hi---glad to hear from you. I also am a diabectic and will admit I am having to do a little adgustmen to my insulin now but just about got it figure out. Are you on Med or just using exercise and watch your carbs?

I am not a big meat eater. I made me a pot of chili with beans this morning and had it over a big bowl of shredded letuce. Was a delightful meal. and some SF Jello.

Come back and join us often.
Caliecat

LeanLioness

Maybe it's just me, but this doesn't sound like a permanent life changing thing to me. Too rigid. I don't "diet," but rather just eat what I want that is nutritious. Please enlighten me. My mother and father-in-law started the SBD like a month ago. I am not onboard for them to do it, but maybe I just need educated.

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Following a structured low carb plan such as South Beach or Atkins is far more nutritious and healthier than the standard 1000 calorie low fat plan that most dieticians recommend.

Lets look at the Foods WE CAN EAT on Atkins or South Beach:

South Beach food list:

BEEF Lean cuts, such as:
Eye of Round
Ground beef:
Extra Lean (96/4)
Lean (92/8)
Sirloin (90/10)
Tenderloin
Top Loin
Top Round
LAMB (Remove all visible fat)

Center Cut
Chop
Loin
PORK

Boiled ham
Canadian bacon
Loin
Tenderloin






POULTRY (SKINLESS)

Cornish hen
Turkey bacon (2 slices per day)
Turkey and chicken breast
SEAFOOD

All types of fish and shellfish
TOFU

Use soft, low-fat or lite varieties
VEAL

Chop
Cutlet, leg
Top round
EGGS

The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute if desired.
LUNCHMEAT

Fat-free or low-fat only
MEAT SUBSTITUTES (SOY BASED)

Bacon - Limit to 2 slices per day
Burger - < 3 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion
Chicken Patties & Nuggets - < 3 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion
Hot Dogs - < 3 gms fat per 2-3 oz portion
Natural Peanut Butter - 2 Tbsp (may use as protein choice or limited nut choice)
Sausage Pattie - Limit 1 patty per day
Seiten
Soy Crumbles
Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup for a protein snack is suggested serving
Tempeh
Yuba
DAIRY

Low-fat (1 percent) or fat-free milk or soy milk
Plain or sugar-free low-fat or fat-free yogurt
Fat-free half & half
CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT)
American
Cheddar
Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free
Cream cheese substitute, dairy-free
Feta
Mozzarella
Parmesan
Provolone
Ricotta
String
NUTS (Limit to one serving per day as specified)

Almonds - 15 (Dry roasted recommended)
Brazil Nuts - 4
Cashews - 15 (Dry roasted recommended)
Pecans - 15 (Dry roasted recommended)
Macadamia - 8 (Dry roasted recommended)
Peanut Butter - 1 tsp
Peanut Butter, Natural = 2 TBS
Peanuts, 20 small (May use dry roasted or boiled)
Pine Nuts (Pignolia) - 1 ounce
Pistachios - 30 (Dry roasted recommended)
Walnuts - 15 (Dry roasted recommended)
In place of nuts, may use: Flax Seed - 3 TBS
VEGETABLE CHOICES (includes legumes) (May use fresh, frozen or canned without added sugar)

Artichokes
Asparagus
Beans, Green
Beans, Italian
Beans, Wax
Beans or Legumes:
Black Beans
Butter Beans
Chickpeas or Garbanzo
Pigeon Peas
Soy Beans
Split Peas
Broccoli
Bok Choy
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Celery
Collard Greens
Cucumbers
Eggplant
Lettuce (All varieties)
Juice (Limit to 6 ounces per day)
Tomato
V-8
Mushrooms
Mustard Greens
Okra
Onion - Limit to 1/2 per day
Peppers (All varieties)
Pickles - Dill or those sweetened with Splenda®
Radishes (All varieties)
Rhubarb
Sauerkraut
Snow peas
Spinach
Sprouts, Alfalfa
Squash, Spaghetti
Squash, Summer
Yellow
Zucchini
Tomato - Limit to 1 whole or 10 cherry per serving
FAT CHOICES (with some suggested serving sizes) The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily:

Olive Oil
Canola Oil
Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated):

Corn
Enova
Grape seed
Safflower
Soybean
OTHER FAT CHOICES:

Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil
Guacamole - ½ cup = 1 TBS oil
Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance
Mayonnaise - Regular or Low Fat
Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS
Salad Dressing - Use those < 3 gms sugar per serving
TOPPINGS & SAUCES use sparingly (check labels for added sugar)

Hot Sauce
Salsa - Limit to 2 TBS during phase 1
Soy Sauce - 1/2 TBS
Steak Sauce - 1/2 TBS
Worcestershire Sauce - 1 TBS
Whipped Topping (Light) - 2 TBS
SPICES AND SEASONINGS

All spices that contain no added sugar
Broth
Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others)
Horseradish sauce
I Can't Believe It's Not Butter! Spray
Lemon Juice
Lime Juice Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white)
SWEET TREATS (Limit to 75 calories per day)

Candies, hard, sugar-free
Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar
Cocoa powder, baking type
Fudgsicles, sugar-free
Gelatin, sugar-free
Gum, sugar-free
Popsicles, sugar-free
Sugar substitute Some Sugar Free
Products may be made with sugar alcohols (isomalt, lactitol, mannitol, sorbitol or xylitol) and are permitted on the SBD. They may have associated side effects of GI distress (abdominal pain, diarrhea & gas) if consumed in excessive amounts.

SUGAR SUBSTITUTES

Acesulfame K
Fructose (needs to be counted as Sweet Treats, Caloric Limit)
Nutrasweet (Equal)
Saccharin (Sweet & Low)
Sucralose (Splenda)
Stevia (Not approved by FDA)

Atkins Phase 1 Food List

All fish including:

Flounder
Herring
Salmon
Sardines
Sole
Tuna
Trout
All fowl including:

Cornish hen
Chicken
Duck
Goose
Pheasant
Quail
Turkey
All shellfish including:

Clams
Crabmeat
Mussels*
Oysters*
Shrimp
Squid
*Oysters and mussels are higher in carbs so limit to about 4 ounces per day.

All meat including:

Bacon*
Beef
Ham*
Lamb
Pork
Veal
Venison
Focus on lean cuts of beef and lamb. Some processed meat, bacon, and ham is cured with sugar, which will add to the carb count. Also steer clear of cold cuts and other meats with added nitrates.

Eggs are one of nature's most nutritious creations. That’s why eggs are a staple breakfast in the Atkins Nutritional Approach.

Feel free to get creative with your eggs: Add mushrooms and onions, or even green pepper. Top the dish off with feta cheese or add basil, oregano and other herbs.

Eggs in any style, including:

Deviled
Fried
Hard-boiled
Omelets
Poached
Scrambled
Soft-boiled
Keep in mind that cheese does contain carbs, about 1 gram per ounce. You may have about 3 to 4 ounces of cheese per day. An ounce is about the size of an individually wrapped slice of American cheese or a 1" cube.

Cheese including:

Type Serving Size Grams of net carbs
Blue cheeses 1 oz 0.7
Cheddar ½ cup 0.0
Cow, sheep and goat 1 oz 0.3
Cream cheese 1 oz 0.8
Feta 1 oz 1.2
Gouda 1 oz 0.6
Mozzarella 1 oz 0.6
Parmesan 1 tbs 0.2
Swiss 1 oz 1.0

Vegetables:

You should be eating approximately 12 to 15 grams of net carbs per day in the form of vegetables, which is equivalent to several cups depending on the actual carb content of the veggies you select.

1 cup is roughly the size of a baseball. Measure the following salad vegetables raw.

Vegetable Serving Size/Prep grams of net carbs
Alfalfa sprouts 1 cup/raw 0.4
Argula ½ cup/raw 0.2
Bok choy 1 cup/raw 0.8
Celery 1 stalk 0.8
Chicory greens ½ cup/raw 0.6
Chives 1 tablespoon 0.1
Cucumber ½ cup 1.0
Daikon ½ cup 1.0
Endive ½ cup 0.0
Escarole ½ cup 0.0
Fennel 1 cup 3.6
Jicama ½ cup 2.5
Iceberg lettuce
½ cup 0.1
Mushrooms ½ cup 1.2
Parsley 1 tablespoon 0.1
Peppers ½ cup/raw 2.3
Radicchio ½ cup/raw 0.7
Radishes 10/raw 0.9
Romaine lettuce ½ cup 0.2



The following vegetables are slightly higher in carbs than the salad vegetables listed above. They also provide important nutrients and add variety to your daily foods. Make sure you stay within the 12-15 grams of net carbs. Unless otherwise noted, measure these veggies after you cook them.

Vegetable Serving Size/ Prep Net Carbs
Artichoke ¼ of medium 4.0
Asparagus 6 spears 2.4
Artichoke hearts 1 canned
1.0
Avocadoes 1 whole (raw) 3.5
Bamboo shoots 1 cup canned
1.1
Broccoli
½ cup 1.6
Broccoli raw ½ cup 1.0
Broccoli rabe ½ cup 1.3
Broccoflower ½ cup 1.4
Brussels sprouts ¼ cup
2.4
Cabbage ½ cup (raw) 2.0
Cauliflower ½ cup (raw) 1.0
Swiss chard ½ cup
1.8
Collard greens ½ cup
4.2
Eggplant ½ cup
1.8
Hearts of palm 1 heart 0.7
Kale ½ cup 2.4
Kohlrabi ½ cup 4.6
Leeks ¼ cup
1.7
Okra ½ cup
2.4
Olives green 5 2.5
Olives black 5 0.7
Onion ¼ cup (raw) 2.8
Pumpkin ¼ cup
2.4
Rhubarb ½ cup (unsweetened) 1.7
Sauerkraut ½ cup (drained) 1.2
Peas ½ cup with pods 3.4
Spaghetti squash ½ cup
2.0
Spinach ½ cup (raw) 0.2
Summer squash ½ cup
2.0
Tomato 1 (raw) 4.3
Turnips ½ cup
2.2
Water chestnuts ½ cup (canned) 6.9
Zucchini ½ cup
2.0


Salad Garnishes
Crumbled bacon 3 slices 0.0
Hard-boiled egg 1 egg 0.0
Grated cheeses (see above carb counts)
Sautéed mushrooms ½ cup 1.0
Sour cream 2 tbs 1.2


Herbs and Spices (make sure they contain no added sugar)

Basil 1 tbs 0.0
Cayenne pepper 1 tbs 0.0
Cilantro 1 tbs 0.0
Dill 1 tbs 0.0
Garlic 1 clove 0.9
Ginger 1 tbs sliced root 0.8
Oregano 1 tbs 0.0
Pepper 1 tbs 0.0
Rosemary 1 tbs 0.0
Sage 1 tbs 0.0
Tarragon 1 tbs 0.0


Salad Dressings - Any prepared salad dressing with no added sugar and no more then 2 grams of net carbs per serving (1-2 tablespoons) is acceptable. Or make your own.


Blue cheese 2 tbs 2.3
Caesar 2 tbs 0.5
Italian 2 tbs 3.0
Lemon juice 2 tbs 2.8
Oil and vinegar 2 tbs 1.0
Ranch 2 tbs 1.4




Fats and Oils

There are no carbs here, but keep in mind that the serving size is approximately 1 tablespoon.

Butter
Mayonnaise – make sure it has no added sugar
Olive oil
Vegetable oils – Those labeled “cold pressed” or “expeller pressed” are especially good and olive oil is one of the best.
Canola*
Walnut
Soybean*
Grape seed*
Sesame
Sunflower*
Safflower*
*Do not allow any oils to reach overly high temperatures when cooking. Use olive oil for sautéing only. Use walnut or sesame oil to dress cooked veggies or salad, but not for cooking.

Artificial Sweeteners

Splenda – one packet equals 1 gram of net carbs
Beverages

Clear broth/ bouillon (make sure it has no sugars added)
Club soda
Cream, heavy or light.
Decaffeinated or regular coffee and tea*
Diet soda (be sure to note the carb count)
Flavored seltzer (must say no calories)
Herb tea (without added barley or fruit sugar added)
Water – at least eight 8-ounce glasses per day including...
Filtered water
Mineral water
Spring water
Tap water
* You may have 1 to 2 cups of caffeinated tea or coffee if you can tolerate caffeine without experiencing cravings or symptoms of hypoglycemia. If you are truly addicted to caffeine, it's best to break the habit during the Induction.

I see nothing UNHEALTHY about eating any of these foods listed on either list.

isadoraworkman

Hi...I have been on some phase of SB diet for about 2 years now, and it is absolutely the best and healthiest eating for me. I have GI issues that come with sugar, bread and very fatty meats...i feel really great when I eat this way. Sure, the first two weeks are difficult, especially if you're weaning yourself off of sugar and bread. But it is smooth sailing after that. I will never go back to my old way of eating.
I know some people will say that they absolutely CANNOT eat this way, and I respect that. For me, I can't do it any other way. Good luck Calliecat
A.

isadoraworkman

Oh, and Calliecat...I despise Ricotta cheese. I just went with plain yogurt right away even on phase one. I would sometimes sweeten it with stevia...
A.

LeanLioness

Hi---glad to hear from you. I also am a diabectic and will admit I am having to do a little adgustmen to my insulin now but just about got it figure out. Are you on Med or just using exercise and watch your carbs?

I am not a big meat eater. I made me a pot of chili with beans this morning and had it over a big bowl of shredded letuce. Was a delightful meal. and some SF Jello.

Come back and join us often.
Caliecat

Well, I had lost 30 pounds, got busy with work and went on a fast food binge because it was quick and easy while I was on the run.

I had gotten off the Glucophage and my sugar was normal with Atkins and Exercise.

Now, I am back on Glucophage, 2000 mg a day. I have to get back on the ball with eating clean and natural again as my health depends on it.

CALIECAT

Thanks to both of you for posting.

The two diets are very similar. Didn't realize that. thanks Leon Lioness.

Isad.--- good to hear from you. thanks for your information. Both of you have been a big help.
Love your picture with the ice and snow. Do come back often.

I feel like I am getting somewhere and really feeling great. Although I only been on this since Monday, I feel so less bloted. And the scales are going down. Sat. is my WI, I shall see. I will post my lost here.

Caliecat