Low-Carb

fteale

With all due respect most nutritionist are idiots. The "real" paleo diet, is low carb. People started to consume more carbs when agriculture was developed. I researched this, and before this time there was virtually no disease.

Do Inuits never get ill, then?

fteale

This goes back to the asians who eat a ton of rice, yet are thin. I am saying that some body types handle glucose very well compared to others, call it genetics if you want.

I wish people would stop saying that Asians eat tons of rice; I lived in China for 2 and a 1/2 years and their diet is largely what we would consider low carb...rice is consumed very moderately (a small amount at the very end of a main meal is the norm), and DOES NOT comprise the majority of their diets. Chinese people don't eat sugar, bread, dairy or many processed foods. When I was there, there was concern about a growing overweight population because of the influence of a Western diet, which included bread, sugar, dairy and processed convenience foods.

I think it really comes down to most Asian diets (and most European, for that matter) are based on real food. Yes, they include rice, and even wheat (look at Italians), but their traditional diets are balanced. It is in particularly America, but the UK now as well that we have such unnatural eating practices. Saying you eat low carb is a simple way to avoid the stuff that is bad, but it is an oversimplification. If people ate real food, that takes time to prepare, they wouldn't get nearly as fat. It's things like biscuits, cake, crisps, fast food burgers and fires, processed cheese, fizzy drinks, doughnuts etc that has caused the obesity problem. And it's not that those things are high carb, though they are, it's the convenience and empty nature of them that is the problem. None of those things should feature in any notable quantity in the human diet.

There is so much more to obesity and ill health than one food group. People need to re-learn what food actually is.

grinch031

With all due respect most nutritionist are idiots. The "real" paleo diet, is low carb. People started to consume more carbs when agriculture was developed. I researched this, and before this time there was virtually no disease.

Do Inuits never get ill, then?

I checked in to it, because it was interesting. Right now it's contradictory. Some say they have great health, there is a study that says:

Inuit Greenlanders, who historically have had limited access to fruits and vegetables, have the worst longevity statistics in North America. Research from the past and present shows that they die on the average about 10 years younger and have a higher rate of cancer than the overall Canadian population.1…


…We now know that greatly increasing the consumption of vegetables, legumes, fruits, and raw nuts and seeds (and greatly decreasing the consumption of animal products) offers profound increased longevity potential, due in large part to broad symphony of life-extending phytochemical nutrients that a vegetable-based diet contains. By taking advantage of the year-round availability of high-quality plant foods, we have a unique opportunity to live both healthier and longer than ever before in human history.

"The research did not show that the Inuits live a long time or are healthy. The statements in the article made conclusions not supported by the research. The research merely was tracking the declining health of the Inuits since the spread of processed junk food among younger people. We can’t look to this group as an example of long-lived healthy people."

Above are the cons,

here are the pros: www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diet-myths-are-the-inuit-healthy.html

both contradict each other.

I think plant-based foods are a double-edged sword. I am not surprised that someone who has access to healthy vegetables (particularly non-starchy) is going to be healthier than someone who doesn't. But at the same time, I think our over-use of wheat products is killing us.

Sharonks

I honestly don't know, but if anyone is willing to show studies or evidence of thin people with type 2 diabetes show us.

I was diagnosed T2 at 34. I worked out an hour every morning, worked the farm all day, and walked a couple miles in the evening. I was on the high side of normal weight but I was also quite muscular (bucking hay when the bales weigh almost as much as you makes you pretty strong). My new dr. didn't want to test me because I was too skinny to be diabetic. Since I have a family history on both sides she said test in my 60s would make sense. I insisted since I have been tested since I was 22 after my first pregnancy and gestational diabetes.

While it is common for T2s to be overweight it is not a requirement to have the disease. Sadly, the medical community still buys into the fact that you only get T2 when you are obese or really old. I wonder how many people like me are walking around undiagnosed.

Even though I'm trying to lose weight I am not obese. My blood sugar has shifted toward worse during the last year, possibly because I'm older and a year farther into T2 or because I put on weight while being bedridden from another health problem. Either way, I need to lose all of my extra fat. I eat 50 to 80 grams of carbs per day, and ramping up my exercise program again, had my oral meds upped and am finally getting my sugars under control again. Realize that for me, being fat means I wear a size 3 instead of a 0. I believe the average American woman wears something like a 12 or 14 if that gives you an idea of how not fat I am.

fteale

I know two people who developed diabetes as teenagers, within a year of each other. Both were very sporty, fit and healthy. Diabetes is not always linked to weight.

Sharonks

This goes back to the asians who eat a ton of rice, yet are thin. I am saying that some body types handle glucose very well compared to others, call it genetics if you want.

I have 2 cousins who are thin, they eat cookies and cakes all day, yet don't gain a pound. Type 2 diabetes is developed usually through bad diets. there are probably cases where thin people develop it, but I don't know, that's what i am curious about. More than likely most Asians really don't suffer from insulin related issues.

Not only am I T2 and relatively thin, I'm also Asian, so is my family. My uncle died of complications from diabetes. So did his son. My Grandma did too. My Mom is T2. My Dad is borderline. My Grandpa on the other side was T2. Actually Asians, Native Americans, and African Americans have a higher incidence of T2 than Whites.

Most of my life I have been a pretty healthy eater. I always loved fruit. I would eat whole grains like whole barley and whole wheat. Lots of veggies too. Sure I ate some junk but in general, my diet was pretty good. My problem is some kind of endocrine problem that has nothing to do with my weight.

I realize you don't know what you are talking about and wish to learn more. tudiabetes.org actually has a group for skinny T2s. Please stop perpetuating the myth that T2 is caused by the victim. There are obese people who never get T2 because they just don't have the right circumstances going on in their bodies. There are skinny, athletic people who have T2. Yes, being obese will exacerbate the condition if it is present but that is not what causes it.

Acg67

This goes back to the asians who eat a ton of rice, yet are thin. I am saying that some body types handle glucose very well compared to others, call it genetics if you want.

I wish people would stop saying that Asians eat tons of rice; I lived in China for 2 and a 1/2 years and their diet is largely what we would consider low carb...rice is consumed very moderately (a small amount at the very end of a main meal is the norm), and DOES NOT comprise the majority of their diets. Chinese people don't eat sugar, bread, dairy or many processed foods. When I was there, there was concern about a growing overweight population because of the influence of a Western diet, which included bread, sugar, dairy and processed convenience foods.

I was unaware China was the only country in Asia

Over 90 percent of the world’s rice is produced and consumed in the Asian Region by 6 countries (China, India,
Indonesia, Bangladesh, Vietnam and Japan) comprising 80% of the world’s production and consumption

http://worldfood.apionet.or.jp/alias.pdf

Dave198lbs

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