Muscle DOES NOT weigh more than fat and put away the damn sc

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  • ericabrothers
    ericabrothers Posts: 115
    i think some of you give eachother more credit than they deserve. some dip s*its really do think that muscle honestly weighs more than fat. don't give people too much credit. most of them really are that stupid. :smile:
  • Anomalia
    Anomalia Posts: 506 Member
    Holy ****. The number of posts like this is getting out of control. You're beating a dead horse for the 50 millionth time. We get it. 1 pound = 1 pound. 1 is equal to 1, 2 is equal to 2, etc.
  • PunkRockDad
    PunkRockDad Posts: 76
    You-must-be-new-here.jpg

    lol, I am.
  • katemiddletonisawesome
    katemiddletonisawesome Posts: 152 Member
    BUMP
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.

    Sssshhhh. Yes someone does and if you say it, she will come. :noway:
  • Anomalia
    Anomalia Posts: 506 Member
    Well, let's say it like it is. I do not know the educational level of any of the people on this site. When someone posts that muscle weighs more than fat, someone will probably take that as what they are saying.....literally. I see it all the time when someone posts about being bummed that they did not lose any weight this week. You always have someone post about how they probably gained muscle instead and muscle weighs more than fat. Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. And for someone that is emotionally attached to the scale, they are not going to understand what they are trying to really say.


    I'll give you that. Way too many people on this site respond with "oh you're just gaining muscle" Um no, you don't gain muscle on a calorie deficit.
    But it's been hashed and rehashed on here so many times, it's unreal.

    I guess I am bringing up an old subject then. Maybe I'll do a search to see all the older posts. I'm new on the forums.

    Yes, the search function in the forums is very useful.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    But does 1lb. of hot air weigh the same a 1lb windbag?
  • grinch031
    grinch031 Posts: 1,679
    If you drop 1lb of fat and 1lb of muscle from the same height at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    i think some of you give eachother more credit than they deserve. some dip s*its really do think that muscle honestly weighs more than fat. don't give people too much credit. most of them really are that stupid. :smile:

    It does weigh more, by volume, saying they weigh the same is comparing things using the wrong variable. use weight as the variable and volume as the constant, that is how you should compare weights of 2 different matters.

    The argument that they weigh the same is like saying butter and carrots have the came caloric content because 100 cals of carrots has the same cals as 100 cals of butter. It is a much better idea to keep the weights the same and say 100 grams of carrots have x calories, and 100g of butter has y, then you will see they don't have the same caloric content.
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
    Aside from the idea of muscle actually "weighing" more than fat, I am far more bothered by the people who suggest that someone gained 5 lbs of muscle because they've been eating better and doing some cardio for two whole weeks...

    That being said...someone posts this about once a day (along with a "lose" vs. "loose" thread) and people will still continue to toss that line out there, so even though I'm sure it felt good to rant, your head with explode if you let it bother you too much.
  • Z_I_L_L_A
    Z_I_L_L_A Posts: 2,399 Member
    If you drop 1lb of fat and 1lb of muscle from the same height at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?

    Depends on how hungry I am.
  • PeeTeePee
    PeeTeePee Posts: 235 Member
    http://www.onemorebite-weightloss.com/muscle-to-fat.html

    fat-v-muscle.jpg
  • MrsLVF
    MrsLVF Posts: 787 Member
    Where's the fat vs muscle pic when you need it.

    look... below :smile:
  • madhusky
    madhusky Posts: 14 Member
    not really sure but it would be messy ;)
  • Captain_Tightpants
    Captain_Tightpants Posts: 2,215 Member
    OP, just fyi a virtually identical post to this is made almost every week, and it's oft repeated throughout threads. If you haven't seen it yet then I'm surprised.

    That said, it obviously bears repeating.
  • madhusky
    madhusky Posts: 14 Member
    If you drop 1lb of fat and 1lb of muscle from the same height at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?
    not sure but it would be messy ;)

    (that quote should have been included on my previous post! blonde moment,)
  • MacMadame
    MacMadame Posts: 1,893 Member
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.
    Exactly!

    I can be as pedantic as the next person, but even I don't have a cow over this one. Everyone understands what is meant by "muscle weighs more than fat" so why get so bent out of shape that they don't say "for the same volume". It's implied.
  • lucentabella
    lucentabella Posts: 114 Member
    Good lord, I'm so tired of seeing this over and over again. I have NEVER heard anyone argue that a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat. I don't think many people are that stupid. Muscle DOES weigh more than fat, by volume. THAT is what people are referring to when they say muscle weighs more than fat, and they would be correct. They're saying exactly what you're saying, they're just using different words.

    That said, I like your bit about obsessing over the scale :)

    My sentiments
  • PunkRockDad
    PunkRockDad Posts: 76
    I guess I picked the wrong subject for my 1st post on these forums.....damn, you guys are like pitbulls....:bigsmile: I like it.
  • heylatimer
    heylatimer Posts: 60 Member
    I have been having conversations on this with other friends and there is something I cannot explain, or find an explanation for - there has to be one.

    What causes someone to lose 17 inches (combined) but not lose any more than 1lb of overall weight over a 3 month period? This is the kind of situation that leads to the muscle weighs more than fat discussion.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.
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    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.

    Quoted multiple times for emphasis.
    I don't know why people argue 1lb=1lb, when we know this is what they mean

    When someone says muscle weighs more than fat they are implying by volume, when something is implied you don't have to stated it "(by volume) muscle weighs more than fat" is how the statement should be taken.

    This.

    This entire "debate" makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
  • Skeemer118
    Skeemer118 Posts: 397 Member
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat, they mean per unit volume. No one thinks 5lbs. of anything does not weigh 5 lbs.

    ^ Yup.

    :drinker:
  • Hellbent_Heidi
    Hellbent_Heidi Posts: 3,669 Member
    I guess I picked the wrong subject for my 1st post on these forums.....damn, you guys are like pitbulls....:bigsmile: I like it.
    LOL...for the record, just don't pick "lose vs. loose" or 'should I eat back my exercise calories" or the HGC diet as your second posts...hahaha.

    Welcome to the forums though (it can be ugly sometimes) :drinker:
  • Skeemer118
    Skeemer118 Posts: 397 Member
    You-must-be-new-here.jpg

    I :heart: you! :bigsmile:
  • hottottie11
    hottottie11 Posts: 907 Member
    I have a bigger problem with people telling those who are in a caloric deficit/exercising and didn't lose weight (or even gained weight) that they gained muscle.

    This argument of the weight of muscle vs fat is irrelevant.
  • PunkRockDad
    PunkRockDad Posts: 76
    I have been having conversations on this with other friends and there is something I cannot explain, or find an explanation for - there has to be one.

    What causes someone to lose 17 inches (combined) but not lose any more than 1lb of overall weight over a 3 month period? This is the kind of situation that leads to the muscle weighs more than fat discussion.

    Because you are replacing the fat with muscle. Muscle takes up less space for the same amount of weight. I guarantee that the said person who lost 17 inches has a much much lower body fat% than when they started. Much lower.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    I have been having conversations on this with other friends and there is something I cannot explain, or find an explanation for - there has to be one.

    What causes someone to lose 17 inches (combined) but not lose any more than 1lb of overall weight over a 3 month period? This is the kind of situation that leads to the muscle weighs more than fat discussion.

    my #1 guess would be they are not measuring the exact same area, it is very hard to get the same measurement in the same place consistently. On the second one they probably want to see results so the pull the measuring tape tighter too.
  • sarahgilmore
    sarahgilmore Posts: 572 Member
    If you drop 1lb of fat and 1lb of muscle from the same height at the same time, which one will hit the ground first?

    Well that all depends if we're in a vacuum or not :wink:
  • Skeemer118
    Skeemer118 Posts: 397 Member
    If a pound of fat drops in the woods & no one is around to hear it....
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    I have been having conversations on this with other friends and there is something I cannot explain, or find an explanation for - there has to be one.

    What causes someone to lose 17 inches (combined) but not lose any more than 1lb of overall weight over a 3 month period? This is the kind of situation that leads to the muscle weighs more than fat discussion.

    Because you are replacing the fat with muscle. Muscle takes up less space for the same amount of weight. I guarantee that the said person who lost 17 inches has a much much lower body fat% than when they started. Much lower.

    Yes, but it is very hard to gain muscle while in a caloric deficit. I would guess the person made mistakes and maybe lost less inches, and they were new to strength training, as when you are new to lifting you can have "beginners gains". But after that you will actually lose muscle as you lose weight.

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