this just might start a riot, but...

967_1111

It's never mattered to me what combination of calories I eat, just how many. I try to hit less than 30% calories from fat, but I don't track carbs cause I don't care.

callmeBAM

Oh...and did I mention-- eating this way did get me my current body? Just sayin' ...all the carb phobia is a bit unfounded.

There is more to health than what is in the mirror.

FACT: Carbohydrates drive insulin production that causes cardiovascular heart disease (CHD).
FACT: Carbohydrates, which turn to glucose, hype the metabolism and trigger the release of disease-causing hormones like insulin, cortisol and adrenaline.

Neither of those things are facts. Try again.

In fact, the fact that you even think those are facts tells me your understanding of human physiology and pathophysiology is very poor. If you did you would never claim those things as facts.

Are you saying carbs don't drive insulin production?????

And to the effects of that, from the MAYO clinic: "When your blood sugar and insulin levels stay high, or cycle up and down rapidly, your body has trouble responding and over time this could contribute to insulin resistance. Insulin resistance is associated with a host of health problems, including: Type 2 diabetes, Obesity, High blood pressure, Stroke, Heart disease.

If you don't trust me, do you trust them?

Isolt

the same reason others "belittle" people for EATING carbs. no difference except I'm not "belittiing" at all. posting a cartoon has become belittling? that's news to me i guess. my apologies.

Well I'm new around here and I've yet to see anyone belitting people who eat carbs. What I do see though is constant assertions that eating low-carb (and that's *low carb*, not NO carb as people seem to think) that is a 'fad' diet, is unhealthy and ridiculous statements about it causing mood swings.

I've eaten low-carb for over 10 years and have low 'bad' cholesterol, totally normal blood pressure and none of the health issues that the misinformation grapevine likes to attribute to low carb eating. Far from a 'fad' diet, what I eat is totally normal. I am an ethnical foodie, so my menu is sustainable fish, organic pasture-fed meat, leafy green vegetables and salads, nuts, berries, seeds and dairy. I don't eat processed food and I eat around 60% fat/30% protein/10% carbs.

Other ways of eating work for other people, but eating 'primal' works for me......and was originally suggested by a medical specialist for management of CFS since there's a lot of research that avoiding the artificial additives in processed food and cutting carbs helps the symtoms of CFS. It certainly did for me.

fieldsy4life

I wouldn't say carb-phobia is "unfounded", as there are plenty of studies that demonstrate the fat burning properties of low-carb diets.

With that said, your diet is clearly working for you, so keep it up! Everyone is different - I loved carbs, but I also love the results of going low-carb!

I'm stepping off my soapbox now lol.

lilyjay_

I'm a carb fiend & it hasn't hindered my progress so far.. Love potato way too much... And rice, bread and, well, basically every carb going!

MassiveDelta

I LOVE LOVE LOVE carbs

hmmm...

frozen yogurt
berries
whole grain tortillas spread with cream cheese and maple syrup (yum)
popcorn
pirate's booty (yes...processed, delicious, CARBS)
oatmeal
cheesecake (fat and carbs--match made in heaven)
fiber one bars
cereal (my weakness--whole grain of course)
pumpkin pancakes

Oh...and did I mention-- eating this way did get me my current body? Just sayin' ...all the carb phobia is a bit unfounded.

I'm Canadian and we put maple syrup on everything (haven't tried it on tortillas yet....... What's pirate's booty?

I put maple syrup on canadians

callmeBAM

Bye thread, nice knowing you. Apparently everyone is dogmatic about their nutritional knowledge.

rockerbabyy

I put maple syrup on canadians

now THAT sounds delicious! >.>

MassiveDelta

I put maple syrup on canadians

now THAT sounds delicious! >.>

It's like pirate booty but Canadian

BOLO4Hagtha

I LOVE LOVE LOVE carbs

hmmm...

frozen yogurt
berries
whole grain tortillas spread with cream cheese and maple syrup (yum)
popcorn
pirate's booty (yes...processed, delicious, CARBS)
oatmeal
cheesecake (fat and carbs--match made in heaven)
fiber one bars
cereal (my weakness--whole grain of course)
pumpkin pancakes

Oh...and did I mention-- eating this way did get me my current body? Just sayin' ...all the carb phobia is a bit unfounded.

Those are actually healthy carbs....I sure do envy your body

Isolt

please explain how

It's self-evident.

Now then - is it possible to actually discuss each other's food choices without all the piss-taking of people who choose to eat low-carb or primal?

Because, I can safely say that I don't care if all you (or anyone else) wants to eat all day long is carbs. I choose to do otherwise. What shouldn't happen, especially given the growing evidence that eating high-fat is not a heart-attack inducing way of life, is people being pilloried for doing something different from the 'norm'.

I struggle to see what is unhealthy about what I eat - lots of green veg, berries, fish, meat, eggs. I don't feel like I'm denying myself anything because I never had a sweet tooth in the first place and I never liked junk food.....in fact at school I used to be made fun of because I'd never had a McDonalds/KFC/BurgerKing/etc...and I still haven't.

SillaWinchester

Yes! Bump!

DaniellePF

I won't give up my carbs (heellll NO)--I just eat them wisely. I don't make any changes that I can't live with FOREVER. Makes losing the weight sloooooooower....but at least it will stay off. Thanks for posting! :drinker:

badgerbadger1

Oh...and did I mention-- eating this way did get me my current body? Just sayin' ...all the carb phobia is a bit unfounded.

There is more to health than what is in the mirror.

FACT: Carbohydrates drive insulin production that causes cardiovascular heart disease (CHD).
FACT: Carbohydrates, which turn to glucose, hype the metabolism and trigger the release of disease-causing hormones like insulin, cortisol and adrenaline.

Neither of those things are facts. Try again.

In fact, the fact that you even think those are facts tells me your understanding of human physiology and pathophysiology is very poor. If you did you would never claim those things as facts.

Are you saying carbs don't drive insulin production?????

And to the effects of that, from the MAYO clinic: "When your blood sugar and insulin levels stay high, or cycle up and down rapidly, your body has trouble responding and over time this could contribute to insulin resistance. Insulin resistance is associated with a host of health problems, including: Type 2 diabetes, Obesity, High blood pressure, Stroke, Heart disease.

If you don't trust me, do you trust them?

You are incorrectly stating there is a causal relationship between carbs and heart disease, that certain hormones are causal agents for disease, and also assuming that carbs are the only thing that drives insulin production. You clearly don't understand how diabetes and heart disease works either, as diabetes isn't caused by carbs, nor is heart disease caused by carbs. I'm not sure how you drew those wild conclusions from that simple paragraph from the Mayo clinic.

love4fitnesslove4food_wechange

please explain how

It's self-evident.

Now then - is it possible to actually discuss each other's food choices without all the piss-taking of people who choose to eat low-carb or primal?

Because, I can safely say that I don't care if all you (or anyone else) wants to eat all day long is carbs. I choose to do otherwise. What shouldn't happen, especially given the growing evidence that eating high-fat is not a heart-attack inducing way of life, is people being pilloried for doing something different from the 'norm'.

I struggle to see what is unhealthy about what I eat - lots of green veg, berries, fish, meat, eggs. I don't feel like I'm denying myself anything because I never had a sweet tooth in the first place and I never liked junk food.....in fact at school I used to be made fun of because I'd never had a McDonalds/KFC/BurgerKing/etc...and I still haven't.

if you think you're being pilloried then why did you seek out this thread and post on it? ....and continue to post on it for that matter?

muzmacol

I LOVE LOVE LOVE carbs

hmmm...

frozen yogurt
berries
whole grain tortillas spread with cream cheese and maple syrup (yum)
popcorn
pirate's booty (yes...processed, delicious, CARBS)
oatmeal
cheesecake (fat and carbs--match made in heaven)
fiber one bars
cereal (my weakness--whole grain of course)
pumpkin pancakes

Oh...and did I mention-- eating this way did get me my current body? Just sayin' ...all the carb phobia is a bit unfounded.

No tear gas from me. I eat bread, pasta, rice, cheese, drink beer, no stopping me. Lost 28lbs. I also run....a lot.

ednabnana

+1 on carbs

BUT

In my opinion, the OP KNEW that she was going to start a heated discussion when she made the thread. I do not understand her point. Again in my opinion, it was tasteless to post a "tease" thread on a fitness board.

As fat as diet is concern: carbo loading, low-carb, protein loading, fat loading, & etc. I think it is "to each their own". What works for me clearly does not work for everyone else.

OP congratulations for loving carbs.

I love my COMPLEX carbs too.

duharvalgt

Agreed carbs are not your enemy when you treat them as you would a friend.

jemachharo

It all depends on your specific body. I LOVE carbs too, but they don't love me. Found I am allergic to gluten which takes care of the majority of carbs/starches. The gluten allergy was making me gain and hold onto lots of extra weight. Most processed food have gluten in it, so I have to stick to protein, veggies, fruits, and limited starches. My husband on the other hand, lives on carbs and is skinny. I miss Cheez-It's the most.

Isolt

In my opinion, the OP KNEW that she was going to start a heated discussion when she made the thread. I do not understand her point. Again in my opinion, it was tasteless to post a "tease" thread on a fitness board.

Exactly my point, yes.

This board is apparently called 'General Diet and Weight Loss Help' and this thread does not ask for help or advice, it's and out-and-out troll....aimed purely at provoking people who limit carbs.

The ironic thing is, all the 'yum, yum I love pizza and waffles and maple syrup' goes right over my head because I think they're all foul anyway and I dare say so do other primal eaters :bigsmile:

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