IDEAL PROTEIN DIET

djmarciad

Is anyone else doing the doctor supervised Ideal Protein Protocol? I discovered it through a friend of mine and decided to do it for other health reasons than weight loss although the weight loss is a fabulous side effect! My main reason was to "rest" my pancreas as my glucose numbers kept coming back borderline diabetic, and my triglycerides and cholesterol numbers were abhorant for the past couple years. I began the program on January 2nd and have realized my goals of MUCH lower numbers on all accounts! Since my 52nd birthday in November, I have lost a total of 24 pounds - yay me! Anyone else using this program? I want to hear your story. Thanks for your time.

gracias60

I haven't done it but would like to hear about it. please explain what and how it works. thanks

scoldocg

Great to hear about your numbers.. I've been a health coach for years and have now incorporated Ideal Protein into my practice. My patients health issues have cleared up plus the added bonus of losing weight.It's a wonderful program. I lost 30 pounds in 8 weeks and have never felt better. I have chronic IBS, it's totally cleared up. Any questions, drop me a line.. Congratulations. Keep up the good work.. Dr. L

UponThisRock

My wife did a protein sparing modified fast, had fantastic results. This type of diet would be considered too edgy by folks around here.

VintageDisaster

I am! Started on January 10th, and I am down 35lbs so far! Have a look at my pictures

I love it! Super easy, and the results are AWESOME. Don't let the prices back you down!

CindyBretta

How many calories do they allow on that plan? Anything less than 1,200 calories a day is very risky.

CalJur

Should be ideal protein lifestyle.

LishieFruit89

Once of my coworkers is doing it, she's about my age.
She's allowed like 1000 calories a day.
She has 3 of their meals a day, 2 cups of veggies with lunch, and two cups of veggies with dinner.
She gets breakfast, lunch, dinner, and a snack. She also has to have 6-8oz of some protein for whichever meal she isn't eating of theirs.
8 glasses of water, a bunch of veggies are banned, only so much coffee allowed a day. She can have some skim milk in her coffee.
And she used to do a 2 mile walk twice a week with me and some other women here. They yelled at her for it. She's not allowed to exercise on this diet.
She goes in every week to get weighed, measured, etc.
And she says it's wicked expensive.

ElPumaMex

I have done some research, as I had never heard of Ideal Protein Diet.
http://www.idealprotein.com/us/customers-first

So it is a Product Trademark, and they sell you food.

Hmmm.... not really what I would want to do.

Why do we need some company to sell us food we can obtain at the store for much lower prices? :huh:

Healthy_4_Life2

Am not on program, but I was just looking it up after this post. Take a look at this site.

http://diet.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Ideal_Protein_Diet

SwannySez

Every time I see "protein diet" or "how can I get more protein" or anything protein related I giggle. I know, I'm 12. Plus with this being MFP, I giggle a LOT.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

I am coaching people that are transitioning into maintenance off the Ideal Protein Program.

It has too much soy for me since I have thyroid issues.

CindyBretta

I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/ideal-protein-diet-dangers.html

"high protein content in the body exerts pressure on the kidneys. The kidneys have to work harder to get rid of the waste products of protein metabolism. This can lead to severe kidney problems in people who already suffer from disorders of the kidneys."

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"

Phrak

I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"

Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.

ElPumaMex

I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"

Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.

No exercise allowed ! Wow :huh:

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program

Phrak

I would be very suspicious of any diet plan that does not allow you to exercise. They probably say that so you won't pass out on the 1,000 calories a day they allow. And too high of a percentage of protein in your diet can cause health issues in some people

It sounds a bit too much like the dangerous HCG diet scam to me

I would vote "NO"

Actually it is the best advice for people eating ultra low calorie diets. This is why 90% of the people cant lose weight on this site eating their 1200 calories and exercising 5-6 times a week. You either take a moderate deficit approach and move, or take a large deficit approach and dont move. You cannot succeed on alot of activitity and ultra low calories.

No exercise allowed ! Wow :huh:

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program

Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.

mskari77

Every time I see "protein diet" or "how can I get more protein" or anything protein related I giggle. I know, I'm 12. Plus with this being MFP, I giggle a LOT.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I'll join you in 6th grade, and giggle too!

ElPumaMex

No exercise allowed ! Wow :huh:

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program

Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.

And why can't they have the same crash phase 1, by using net cals to 1000?
And why is 1000 a magical number? Is it the same number no matter if male, female, small or large?
Really, it does not sound as anything that I would do.

But if it works for some of you, well I can't try to convince you of not using it.

ranmca

hello

ideal protein is great if you want to loose weight fast. not so great if you want long term weight loss maintainence and a healthier you. ive had a friend do it, talked to my doctor and pharmacist about it and i in the health care field as well. my friend lost a lot of weight, but i was with her while she was doing this, her life was hell.at one point she was only consuming 800cals a day, how bad is that? you pretty much put your body into ketosis, which you know is a bad thing... especially for diabetics... so you can loose some weight. my doctor said stay the heck away and my pharmacist couldn't even believe it was a product. but this is just my opinion based on research and professional judgement...many other people may think different. it was used by a doctor once, so he obviously thought it was ok. but yes, i think that if you can stay away do so, save yourself the time,money and grief and just diet and excersise.

Amanda0325

i know someone who has lost over 40lbs on this diet.. she looks fantastic... and she just started adding more protein and carbs so she can go to the gym 6 days a week now!

Phrak

No exercise allowed ! Wow :huh:

If you exercise, and want to keep that very low 1000 cals net, you just need to eat more.
Why on earth would they not allow exercise ?? That is really contrary to any sensible program

Because they dont work with net calories, your program is 1000 a day. Phase 1 of the diet is purely a crash diet. Phase 2 slowly brings up the calories and allows for exercise.

And why can't they have the same crash phase 1, by using net cals to 1000?
And why is 1000 a magical number? Is it the same number no matter if male, female, small or large?
Really, it does not sound as anything that I would do.

But if it works for some of you, well I can't try to convince you of not using it.

Becuase they do not tell you to count calories. They say have 1 of the green box items, 2 of the puddings, and a serving of a certain tab in the cook book.

Plus "eating back calories" is not something i would adivse, you cant accurately calculate these calories. HRM are only good for steady state cardio and are still inaccurate.

mcatheri

After being on this site for a while I have concluded that we each have to find what works for ourselves because what works for one does not work for another. Three years ago I went on a 1400 calorie/day diet and vigorious exercise 6x/week and it took me a year to lose ~30 lbs. (I was 51 at the time.) I swore I would never gain weight again because the process of losing it was frustrating, not to mention boring. It was easier to quit smoking!

Needless to say, I gained the weight back. After talking to my doctor and a nutritionist, and conducting research including finding Dr. Oz's comments on one of his shows, I went on the HCG diet early January and I lost ~27 lbs. by Feb 15. The diet is very rigid and very low cal, 500 calories, and I followed it exactly. I'm on the 2nd 3 weeks, the last phase, and I feel wonderful and look better. I suffer from multiple GI issues, including colitis. I have eliminated 1 medication and reduced another by half for my gastritis. I am eating most types of foods now and if I don't eat processed food or too many nuts my colitis is not as severe. I was able to walk throughout the diet, including walking 18 holes of golf.

For me, I think HCG acted as toxin elimination as well as changed my mindset on how to choose foods without giving up flavor, variety and the occassional treats. Happy days for me:happy:

Health_Gal

Nooooooo!

Good luck with your weight loss goals, but the HCG diet is not a safe way to jump start the process.

The only reason people lose weight on that plan is you are only allowed to eat 500 calories a day. HCG has been scientifically proven to do NOTHING to help with weight loss or to make it safe to eat only 500 calories a day. It will not protect muscle, reset your metabolism or do anything else the snake oil salesmen that sell it claim. Dr. Simeons was a quack doctor. His "HCG protocol" has absolutely NO scientific backing and is not worth risking your health on.

The HCG diet has been studied by many scientific organizations, and they all concluded that HCG, even the "real" injectable version, is no more effective than a placebo, and eating only 500 calories a day for weeks, as recommended by that plan, can cause more health problems than it solves.

The MFP moderators have been cautioning members against attempting that diet because it is so dangerous.

Please read the articles on these websites before you try HCG. I know some people that put their faith in the HCG diet, and became very ill from malnutrition as a result. Then they regained more weight than they lost. Now they wish they never heard of HCG.

The Government is now in the process of getting all that fraudulent stuff off the market, and it's about time!

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm281333.htm

http://www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/hcg-diet-dangerous-1428

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hcg-diet/AN02091

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/truth-about-hcg-for-weight-loss

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/weight-loss-cure-dont-want-you-to-know

http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml

http://www.tucsonmedical.com/pages/hcg.php

mcatheri

I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!

Josh

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Health_Gal

I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!

You lost weight because you ate at a starvation level for weeks.

The HCG diet is a PROVEN SCAM! It does NOTHING for weight loss!

It's too bad the FDA didn't get that stuff off the market YEARS ago!

Phrak

I am not promoting the diet. I'm saying it worked for me. I am eating ~1700 cals/day now and doing/feeling great!

You lost weight because you ate at a starvation level for weeks.

The HCG diet is a PROVEN SCAM! It does NOTHING for weight loss!

It's too bad the FDA didn't get that stuff off the market YEARS ago!

Just shows you how strong a placebo effect can be. You have to inject HCG to get any benefits, ingesting the drops does zero. But the body will beleive what the mind tells it.

mcatheri

I will be sure not to post anything again on this site. Thanks.

Health_Gal

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Just shows you how strong a placebo effect can be. You have to inject HCG to get any benefits, ingesting the drops does zero. But the body will beleive what the mind tells it.

Injected HCG won't do anything for your weight loss either. The whole HCG diet theory is nothing but a 50 year old scam.

http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml

deb54

VERY INTERESTING.... I have been on MFP for 14 months and have lost 61 pounds and have exercised all the way...hmmmm....diet and exercise works...

cobes24

I had been trying diet and exercise and using MFP for over 2 yrs, but that scale wasn't moving. I've been doing IP for 2 1/2 wks, have lost 16 lb, and feel really good. I'm not hungry, no cravings, I have more will power than I've EVER had in my life, and I'm seeing results. I'm a nurse practitioner, and the family practice clinic next door to the urgent care where I work started selling IP about a year ago. Most of their staff are on the diet, and they look AMAZING. Their results are what motivated me to try it. Also, my A1C had been creeping closer to "pre-diabetic" than I was comfortable with at my age, and I knew I needed to do something about my diet.

To clear up a couple things: IP is a medically supervised diet, (in the US at least--in Canada I understand it can be done in non-medical health clinics?) and from reading I assume each clinic must determine which parts of the diet they are going to stress. 1000 isn't the magic number--at least not with the clinic where I go. In fact, they never told me a number--I follow the guidelines, and my calories are different every day--usually 7-800 or so. They also didn't tell me NO exercising, just that if I do, I need to have a small snack before and after, since my average day doesn't have enough calories to allow for exercise. That works FINE for me, since I found that when I exercised, I justified eating total crap.

I like to exercise, but honestly, at 250 lb, it HURT. If I can drop 50-60 lb quickly and safely (medically supervised remember...I'm not just sitting alone in my apt eating lettuce, I'm actually accountable to my provider and health coach) so I can get back to kickboxing and running and all the things I loved before grad school and a sucky ex-husband gifted me with an extra 60 lb...well then it works for me.

As for the cost--IP is meant for short term use, it's not a gimmick to get you to buy their food forever. We also have found a lot of good replacements online, so once my current IP supply runs out, I'll likely be using mostly other products, but continuing the weekly weigh-ins and such so I have that accountability. One thing unique about their foods is the high protein value to foods typically devoid of it--I have soup every day that has only 90 cal and 18 grams of protein, and if I'm munchy, chips that are 120 cal (for a good portion) and 15 g of protein. I also find the cost motivates me to stick with it--I've been lots of places in the last 3 wks where I would usually indulge in snacks or a few glasses of wine, etc but have NOT cheated. I don't want my investment to go to waste.

I'm retraining my brain, learning to have discipline when it comes to food, and I don't intend to stay on it forever. Everyone knows diet and exercise works. DUH. To someone who has been overweight my entire life, snarky self-righteous comments like "Well just eat better and exercise more, I did it" are incredibly counterproductive. If that's what's working for you, awesome. This is what's working for me (and pretty much everyone I work with) right now.