hmmmmmmmm. a bit confused

fragilegift

personally, I don't like olive oil. It smells vile to me, tastes almost as bad, so why on earth would I use it? if I *must* use an oil, its vegetable oil, and 750 mls lasts me 6 months or more. I prefer dripping!

Swopkin

Even though I find your concern touching, I must say that I do not quite like the condescending tone of your post. Some people take little steps to go from a meal entirely made of junk jood to a healthy meal. Habits are hard to beat and going cold turkey might not be the best approach for everyone. Moreover, I think junk food once in a while should be allowed as long as it's no excess. I, myself, am a strict vegan, but I enjoy a portion of french fries every month or so. This is my 'guilty' pleasure and as long as it doesn't interfere with my goal of losing weight and getting a healthier body, I can't see why not.

dlpnrn2b

It may not "healthy", but you can still achieve weightloss with a couple 140 calorie tacos from Taco Bell. I don't think it's realistic to completely remove "junk" food from your life.

^^this! you don't have to eliminate everything in order to lose weight. in fact i still eat the things i like, just use portion control and find healthier ways to prepare them

Exactly. I even still order a pizza once a week ever since starting the weightloss journey. Haven't gained, only lost. Just need to remember that I'm not eating 4 slices anymore.

But at the same time I understand people who don't want to touch food like that. If it works for you, have at it

I totally agree!!! what's works for one does not for another !! I look forward to my once a week Pizza night. that is my cheat day!!

Fit4Evolution

you cant cook olive oil , vegetable oil is much more stable .. but if your not cooking it olive oil is the way to go
you can always eat healthy so portion control is key
you can always bring the right food or say no at a birthday party all the time.
as long as you know what your goal is and stay within your boundries i say have what you crave
and sometimes you need to think outside the Bun!

Brandicaloriecountess

Luckily we are all (hopefully) adults whom can decide on our own what we want to eat.

I have lost weight, and I am a lot more healthy than I used to be and from time to time I eat something outrageous and bad for me.
It puzzles me how many people on this site are so concerned about what others want to eat. I am here for me.

original_cake_face

I have been reading some of the posts in RECIPES, and I was quite surprised on some of the ingredients in the recipes..
people are using vegetable oils? WHY? OLIVE OIL is so much better and better for you.. some have posted TACO BELL!!!!!!!! really? ONLY 140 calories per taco.. Seriously? TACO BELL.....yeah there may be ONLY 140 Calories but what else is in there? common people this is not just about counting calories, you should also practice to eat healthier. what good is it if you count calories but adding junk in your body?

Can I get some support on this.

Good lord Rachel Ray has ruined the world with her EVOO.

First, as many people have already pointed out.. Olive oil is not the only oil in the universe. Oils have different smoke points. Foods have different cooking temperatures. Add to those two facts, this one: Olive oil has a low smoke point, therefor it is not good for all cooking. Every amateur foodie in the world thinks that EVOO is the ONLY way to go and the ONLY oil you should EVER cook with.. Blargh. Read this: http://www.thekitchn.com/which-is-better-vegetable-oil-61853

Second, why are you so concerned with what other people are eating? You can eat a 140 calorie taco and not die, I assure you. The key to life is moderation, and that's what most people are here to learn. Moderation. You can fit a Taco Bell taco into a moderate diet. This condescending view of perfection is what drags people down. It's what makes people fail.

JayByrd107

You say you're a chef, but don't appear to know much about cooking. As others have pointed out, olive oil is not a suitable all purpose oil. That's the first reason that came to my mind, not to mention several other economic and personal reasons. In applications where its flavor, which is olive oil's foremost benefit, will not be detectable similar health benefits can be achieved by subbing a less expensive oil. Other oils are prefectly acceptable for both cooking and health. Canola oil is held in high regard by the ADA and AHA. If I'm cooking Korean, sorry but your olive oil does me nothing; I need sesame.

And yes, people eat at taco bell. Not everyone's weight loss journey is the same and the point of what they are doing and how they choose to do it is their own. If we were to take a poll of the "point" of all this, I think positive encouragement would rank higher than negative posts would.

JohnFox27thCentury

You're right chef, people eating taco bell ain't gonna make their goals unless they are real real discipline. We gotta eat right too or the exercise is pointless.

prism6

Yes, worry about your pwn choices. I ate jelly beans today....I learned that there are alot of calories in Jelly beans and I have had my last jelly bean for a long time,and I need to walk extra today. This is an individual journey and learning experience for everyone. Some will make it to their goal, some may not. But picking apart someones choices won't help.

yesthistime

I used to order the following at Taco Bell:

2 supreme chalupas
1 nacho bell grande
1-2 crunchy tacos
Large Mountain Dew
1 order of cinnamon twists


Knowing that I can substitute the higher-calorie items for a couple more tacos has done wonders for a person like me. Now I can order:

4 crunchy tacos
Bottle of Water or Diet Soda

and be well on my way to a lifestyle change that I can enjoy and keep up!:flowerforyou:

There's something valuable on this site for everyone.

shiseido_faerie

Oh, I must have my taco bell. If I didn't get that once in a while I would never stay on this program. Sometimes I just have to be bad.

:drinker: Had it last night..., the Doritos Loco Taco Supreme @ 200 Calories...; it was soooooo good!

I had to google what this was its been so long since I've been there....holy crap, yum!!!!!

For me I haven't completely said no to anything, I eat healthy MOST of the time, I do allow myself to have something chocolate nearly every day (if only a 70 cal hot chocolate) but aside from that I'm pretty good, pop once or twice a year, some measured out chips once every few months, but if I want a burger and fries, or a taco, or to go out for a nice dinner, I'm going to go ahead and do it and not feel bad about it. It may not always be healthy but I'm a million times better Than i used to be!

dlpnrn2b

Yes, worry about your pwn choices. I ate jelly beans today....I learned that there are alot of calories in Jelly beans and I have had my last jelly bean for a long time,and I need to walk extra today. This is an individual journey and learning experience for everyone. Some will make it to their goal, some may not. But picking apart someones choices won't help.

OMG you totally made me Laugh with this comment I agree with you all the way , it was just so funny about the jelly bean lesson LOL thanks

maddiedog22

I have been reading some of the posts in RECIPES, and I was quite surprised on some of the ingredients in the recipes..
people are using vegetable oils? WHY? OLIVE OIL is so much better and better for you.. some have posted TACO BELL!!!!!!!! really? ONLY 140 calories per taco.. Seriously? TACO BELL.....yeah there may be ONLY 140 Calories but what else is in there? common people this is not just about counting calories, you should also practice to eat healthier. what good is it if you count calories but adding junk in your body?

Can I get some support on this.

I agree with u even if other ppl don't. I don't use veggie oil, barely even butter. I rarely eat chocolate, and I don't mean the flavored chocolate I drink breakfast essentials with my protein but that's almost it. I can't remember the last chips I ate, or gummy bear(gummy foods were my weakness) I occasionally suck on hard candy to curve my craving. The only fast food I eat is subway, and I quit drink pop completely. I figured if I allow myself a lil I will eventually add them back all together. I also only allow red meat once a week

I would not want to live that way. The good news is, you don't have to.

If it makes you happy, COOL! But if you are white-knuckling your way through weight loss, when you get finished, will the results stay? Or will you be so deprived and desperate for a gummy bear that you say to heck with it?

Of course they will stay. And ya it makes me happy I don't get why ur tageting me about someone's post

LuckyLeprechaun

You're right chef, people eating taco bell ain't gonna make their goals unless they are real real discipline. We gotta eat right too or the exercise is pointless.

oh, hun, no.

This isn't true.

LuckyLeprechaun

I have been reading some of the posts in RECIPES, and I was quite surprised on some of the ingredients in the recipes..
people are using vegetable oils? WHY? OLIVE OIL is so much better and better for you.. some have posted TACO BELL!!!!!!!! really? ONLY 140 calories per taco.. Seriously? TACO BELL.....yeah there may be ONLY 140 Calories but what else is in there? common people this is not just about counting calories, you should also practice to eat healthier. what good is it if you count calories but adding junk in your body?

Can I get some support on this.

I agree with u even if other ppl don't. I don't use veggie oil, barely even butter. I rarely eat chocolate, and I don't mean the flavored chocolate I drink breakfast essentials with my protein but that's almost it. I can't remember the last chips I ate, or gummy bear(gummy foods were my weakness) I occasionally suck on hard candy to curve my craving. The only fast food I eat is subway, and I quit drink pop completely. I figured if I allow myself a lil I will eventually add them back all together. I also only allow red meat once a week

I would not want to live that way. The good news is, you don't have to.

If it makes you happy, COOL! But if you are white-knuckling your way through weight loss, when you get finished, will the results stay? Or will you be so deprived and desperate for a gummy bear that you say to heck with it?

Of course they will stay. And ya it makes me happy I don't get why ur tageting me about someone's post

So you've given up gummy bears and taco bell for life?

I wouldn't do that. And, since I can (and did) lose a massive amount of weight without doing that, I like to spread the word to others that they don't have to set themselves up for failure with a whole lot of restrictions.

Just hit your calorie numbers. That's all it takes. You don't even have to exercise. I am living proof.

tsh0ck

I have been reading some of the posts in RECIPES, and I was quite surprised on some of the ingredients in the recipes..
people are using vegetable oils? WHY? OLIVE OIL is so much better and better for you.. some have posted TACO BELL!!!!!!!! really? ONLY 140 calories per taco.. Seriously? TACO BELL.....yeah there may be ONLY 140 Calories but what else is in there? common people this is not just about counting calories, you should also practice to eat healthier. what good is it if you count calories but adding junk in your body?

Can I get some support on this.

I agree with u even if other ppl don't. I don't use veggie oil, barely even butter. I rarely eat chocolate, and I don't mean the flavored chocolate I drink breakfast essentials with my protein but that's almost it. I can't remember the last chips I ate, or gummy bear(gummy foods were my weakness) I occasionally suck on hard candy to curve my craving. The only fast food I eat is subway, and I quit drink pop completely. I figured if I allow myself a lil I will eventually add them back all together. I also only allow red meat once a week

I think I would last about ... oh ... 2 hours on that diet.

also, I think I may have taco bell tonight. actually, no ... I really want a shamrock shake. and I rode 33 miles on the bike today, so I certainly have the clearance. mcdonald's, here I come.

tsh0ck

You're right chef, people eating taco bell ain't gonna make their goals unless they are real real discipline. We gotta eat right too or the exercise is pointless.

uh .... what?

AmyRhubarb

Hey, at least they're being honest & logging it!

Different things work for different people - not everyone can give up fast food, at least not all at once. Maybe in time they won't want it any more, or maybe it's a treat for them. I still eat at In-N-Out - I don't plan on ever giving that up - but I don't eat it every day or even every week, and I log it when I do eat it. And I enjoy every single delicious bite! :bigsmile: Oh, and I'm losin' weight. Booyah!

becoming_a_new_me

AmyRhubarb

Great, now I'm craving In-N-Out Burger.

chefabitino

It may not "healthy", but you can still achieve weightloss with a couple 140 calorie tacos from Taco Bell. I don't think it's realistic to completely remove "junk" food from your life.

^^this! you don't have to eliminate everything in order to lose weight. in fact i still eat the things i like, just use portion control and find healthier ways to prepare them

Exactly. I even still order a pizza once a week ever since starting the weightloss journey. Haven't gained, only lost. Just need to remember that I'm not eating 4 slices anymore.

But at the same time I understand people who don't want to touch food like that. If it works for you, have at it

I agree with you as far as moderation. and pizza Is not junk food to me.(from a mom and pop shop that is) It has all the nutrional values you need. And yes I don't eat 4 slices as well I stick to one. But TACO BELL? I'm sorry if you knew what was in them..... anyway What I am trying to get to is, I have done the same in the past but once I reached my goal weight I gained it back.. So now I am trying to train my body to burn the food for me.. And it will by eating the right foods, its been proven.. There is so much i can say here but it would take too long..

I don't deprive myself of any food, there are things I like and things I don't. But I eat everything as long as I know what in it.. So most of the time I prepare it myself..Yes this is much easier for me because I have more at my service being a chef. and I also enjoy cooking....

chefabitino

um. So let me see if I've got this straight......you are so worried that people are eating vegetable oil and Taco Bell that you needed to put it on the Interwebz for eternity?


I had no idea they were that alarming. Thank you.

I'm not worried for other people I am worried for myself. I just expressed an OPINION! That there are alternatives..

The alarm will go off when you end up with health problems.. But don't worry about that now. No biggy. Your welcome..

chefabitino

While olive oil my be Healthy for you it is not always in a persons budget to use it or they may prefer a different type. I personally view recipes as an outline and adjust them to my personal tastes. If you don't care for what is in them develop ones that you like or tweek the ones you don't to your liking.

If a person choses to eat fast food, soda, meat, vegs ect it is up to them and their food calorie allotment. None of my business. This journey is about learning what works for you.

I use grapeseed oil to saute with Costs just as much as veg oil. I do watch my budget..I know that $$$ spent on fast food, if you shop wisely you can feed your self for a week...

chefabitino

Unless it's ultra refined, olive oil burns at a lower temperature than vegetable and canola oil. If you're doing a stir fry or other type of cooking at a higher heat, you can't really use it.

GRAPE-SEED oil has a great viscosity for high heat.That's what i use.

chefabitino

My way is is the only way and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong! :indifferent:

You need a shrink..lol

I never said my way is the only way.. I just expressed my opinion.

chefabitino

small steps

Yes Sue you are right..I'm taking small healthy steps...;)

cmriverside

um. So let me see if I've got this straight......you are so worried that people are eating vegetable oil and Taco Bell that you needed to put it on the Interwebz for eternity?


I had no idea they were that alarming. Thank you.

I'm not worried for other people I am worried for myself. I just expressed an OPINION! That there are alternatives..

The alarm will go off when you end up with health problems.. But don't worry about that now. No biggy. Your welcome..

I am old enough to be yo mama. I am much healthier than anyone I know at my age, regardless of the fact that for a decade I thought the major food groups were alcohol, caffeine, and sugar. :laugh: Thankfully I was dealt some good cards. Not everyone will have "health problems" from vegetable oil and Taco Bell. Those are super way down on the list, honestly.

chefabitino

Some people are picky. If a taco's what they want, who are we to judge?

Not judging.. you are right!

chefabitino

Oh, I must have my taco bell. If I didn't get that once in a while I would never stay on this program. Sometimes I just have to be bad.

Its good to be bad once in a while...

susannamarie

My way is is the only way and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong! :indifferent:

You need a shrink..lol

I never said my way is the only way.. I just expressed my opinion.

Yep. But you chose to express your opinion in a general call-out that strongly implied that everything else is wrong, whether or not you realized it.

Why not worry about your own diet instead of posting threads calling out for other people to worry about theirs? People change at different rates and to different degrees. I used to eat 3-4 cheesy double beef burritos at taco bell, yesterday I had two small tacos there instead.