DO NOT JOG ON THE TREADMILL

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  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
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    The whole "you burn the same amount of calories per mile no matter how fast you move" never made sense to me. If I'm really freakin' hauling I would think I would be burning more to sustain that speed than if I was just plodding along. But I'm not a thermogeneticist or anything.
  • agentscully514
    agentscully514 Posts: 616 Member
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    The whole "you burn the same amount of calories per mile no matter how fast you move" never made sense to me. If I'm really freakin' hauling I would think I would be burning more to sustain that speed than if I was just plodding along. But I'm not a thermogeneticist or anything.

    you're burning more calories per minute, but you're also covering more ground, so theoretically it could be the same number of calories for the same distance.

    but maybe that is too simplistic, like many things in physiology.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
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    I get the reasoning behind it, it just never made any sense to me.
  • antoniosmooth
    antoniosmooth Posts: 299 Member
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    Technically, he is right about the first. You burn more calories walking at an uncomfortably fast pace than jogging at a slow pace.

    however, that rule is just stupid. Treadmills are made for running.

    Yeah but you burn more calories in a shorter space of time running than walking, which directly effects the amount of fat you burn.

    Exactly which is why running intervals on a treadmill for 15 minutes is A LOT more effective than running the same speed on a treadmill for 20 minutes.
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
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    Then do sprints. Sign didn't say not to sprint
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,250 Member
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    So i decided to register at a gym yesterday........after so many months of laziness and weight gain. And the 'trainer' starts me off with warm up, then takes me to the treadmill. Just directly in front, there is a big sign saying:


    " DO NOT JOG OR RUN ON THE TREADMILL, JUST WALK AT THE PACE GIVEN TO YOU".

    And then i asked him why he says:

    1. You burn more fat brisk walking than jogging
    2. You are less likely to get injured running or jogging, so by telling us to walk, they are helping us prevent those injuries.

    i told him i didnt believe that. I believe everyone has the right to walk or run on the treadmill, depending on what they want. He probably thinks the lifespan of his treadmill would be longer if we didnt run on it.

    Shrewd Gym owner!!!!!!!!

    All I can say is I am glad I have my own treadmill at home, nobody there trying to order me around and tell me what to do!

    I am going on it tomorrow and will think of that gym and it will egg me on to run on it at a really fast pace! LOL
  • austepants
    austepants Posts: 356 Member
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  • austepants
    austepants Posts: 356 Member
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    2. You are less likely to get injured running or jogging, so by telling us to walk, they are helping us prevent those injuries.

    You're also far less likely to get injured sitting on the couch. Maybe they should install a bunch of those and have a SUPER safe gym!

    Gotta take a little risk, yes running can hurt, but you'll live. Safety is important but that just seems extreme. I can't imagine being at a gym with the philosophy "Nobody move quickly! You could get hurt!"

    ^^THIS!
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
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    What about people who have specific running goals? I'm training for a 10k. A gym that has a walk-only policy for treadmills would not support that at all. I would find a different gym.
  • kburns0709
    kburns0709 Posts: 297 Member
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    that just seems really crazy
  • mittensofdoom
    mittensofdoom Posts: 69 Member
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    Walk right out of that gym and find a real one.

    He had a few semi-valid points but they were wrong. 1. you aren't "burning fat" by walking or running, you're creating a caloric deficit. 2. he's right that walking is safer than jogging but they have no business not allowing people to jog or run.

    That gym is clearly not dedicated to providing results or allowing people to train.
    so find a new one

    I agree with the trainer, walking is safer than jogging/ running. One of my old trainers who now owns his own gym and writes for multiple fitness blogs always sticks with the saying, "Be fit to run, do not run to be fit." which is a simple way of saying you need to be in shape to jog/ run safely, especially for women (because of our pelvis shape). So while running can be pretty safe (a recent study showed that running less than 4 miles per run actually improved knee joint health), you need to be in good shape to do it. If you just decided to get fit you should probably start out with walking and work up.
  • Chipmaniac
    Chipmaniac Posts: 642 Member
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    The whole "you burn the same amount of calories per mile no matter how fast you move" never made sense to me. If I'm really freakin' hauling I would think I would be burning more to sustain that speed than if I was just plodding along. But I'm not a thermogeneticist or anything.
    You are both right. In theory, it takes a fixed number of calories to move a 200-pound person from point A to point B no matter what method is used. However, efficiency comes into play. You'd use a lot less energy biking the same distance than you walk or run. That's because a bike is super efficient. Mechanical assists aside, humans are optimized for walking because our ancestors used to have to track game for long distances. Running is less efficient due to the gate and energy wasted hitting the ground. Thus, walking uses less calories for a given distance than running.

    The one exception is if you are walking at such a high speed that a normal walking gate is not possible. At those speeds, running is going to be more efficient than walking, assuming walking is even possible.
  • jillian769
    jillian769 Posts: 247 Member
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    That's the craziest thing I ever heard of, not being able to run on a treadmill at the GYM!!!! I would cancel my membership. Are you allowed to use heavy free weights too or just the 5 pound ones because it's safer???? :wink:
  • musicstardust67
    musicstardust67 Posts: 299 Member
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    Wow very dumb. Ya I really don't think that trainer was right honestly. Unless you have bad knees or something or that u feel as if u may pass out while jogging then ya. There are tons of people who run or jog and burn so much off and are in such great shape. Walking is great too but if u want to jog go for it! That rule is very dumb. I'd find another gym, too.
  • Di3012
    Di3012 Posts: 2,250 Member
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    Walk right out of that gym and find a real one.

    He had a few semi-valid points but they were wrong. 1. you aren't "burning fat" by walking or running, you're creating a caloric deficit. 2. he's right that walking is safer than jogging but they have no business not allowing people to jog or run.

    That gym is clearly not dedicated to providing results or allowing people to train.
    so find a new one

    I agree with the trainer, walking is safer than jogging/ running. One of my old trainers who now owns his own gym and writes for multiple fitness blogs always sticks with the saying, "Be fit to run, do not run to be fit." which is a simple way of saying you need to be in shape to jog/ run safely, especially for women (because of our pelvis shape). So while running can be pretty safe (a recent study showed that running less than 4 miles per run actually improved knee joint health), you need to be in good shape to do it. If you just decided to get fit you should probably start out with walking and work up.

    and what happens once that person is already fit? Should they still continue to walk?

    What happens if the person wanting to join that gym is already fit, should they be prevented from running on the treadmill? Not everybody who joins a gym is as fit as a sack of old spuds you know, some people are fit-fit and want to stay that way.
  • FlynnMacCallister
    FlynnMacCallister Posts: 172 Member
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    I believe everyone has the right to walk or run on the treadmill, depending on what they want.
    No, you don't have the right to use someone else's equipment in violation of their rules.

    Exactly. Which means the OP needs to find a new gym. ;p
  • mikeyrp
    mikeyrp Posts: 1,616 Member
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    Technically, he is right about the first. You burn more calories walking at an uncomfortably fast pace than jogging at a slow pace.

    however, that rule is just stupid. Treadmills are made for running.

    Yeah but you burn more calories in a shorter space of time running than walking, which directly effects the amount of fat you burn.

    Exactly which is why running intervals on a treadmill for 15 minutes is A LOT more effective than running the same speed on a treadmill for 20 minutes.

    Intervals are great for speed training - not sure if they are better for total calories burnt though (depends on the length and intensity of the work/recovery cycles vs intensity of running normally). My experience is that I burn less calories in an interval training session - but over a number of months they do raise my average speed (and therefore cals burned) when running 'normally'
  • amyy902
    amyy902 Posts: 290 Member
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    it depends on if youre very overweight, just a bit or fine. are you on meds at all? and really your fitness levels. yes it is said to be a good way to loose fat, efficency is long and slow, but then again HIIT training is also a fantastic exercise to loose fat. but if youre on say beta blockers then he cant have you running because youd possibly give yourself a hear attack. if youre super overweight then you might injur yourself and if your unfit then he dosnt want to set you up for ffailure. anyway you create a calorie deficit relates to weight loss. - he has to cover his back etc...

    (im not saying you are the ^^) if you dont have any of the previous concers inc hypertension. then yeah theres zero reason as to why you shouldnt be alowed to run if thats what you want to get that out of your training session. and if thats the case and hes saying no then as a personal trainer myself id say he wont have many clients left.