ended the day at -50 net clories

KharismaticKayteh

I don't work out, and I still have trouble consuming enough calories because I'm on a vegetarian diet and I am a "low-volume eater". To compensate, I found some calorie-rich foods like avocado and sunflower kernels. I'm not sure about the avocado, but sunflower kernels are 190 calories per quarter-cup serving. So ideally, this is something I'll consume when it's the end of the day and I'm not very hungry, but I have a lot of calories left to reach my goal. I like to come under my goal, but not several hundred calories under.

SofaKingRad

oh for pete sake it's 50 clories.

Why be a jerk? Leave the thread, loser. Let people help her.

Heh, you mean him? Help HIM?

Something seems off though. Ending a day at -50 calories is not good.

chnkytim42

not a big fan of peanut butter, and pastas and breads give me horrible indigestion. maybe i am to worried about my diet, most of it is eggs chicken, nuts when i can afford them, and veggies...... love how i am eating, tastes great. keeps me full....... and really i know 3 liters of soda has that many calories. it was mountain dew to make it worse. so thats what packed on the pounds

BaconMD

changed setting. journal open. ps. 1500 was working out according to this site, but i used a basic workout, didnt include the shadow boxing, some jogging, squats, park bench dips, pushups

Your workout says walking for 120 minutes at 4mph... If that's true, that's impressive to me. I've been working out for a year and I jogged at 4.0 for 10 minutes and a 7% incline yesterday and that was a first for me. I can go maybe an hour at 3.0 or so.. Can't get close to 140 minutes (your total according to your log).

oh for pete sake it's 50 clories.

This.

Uh, try reading the title of the thread again...

liftingheavy

okay, so my headline about says it all, but let me give you some ideas. i am 5'11 300lbs, i ate almost 1500 calories today, and burned 1550ish, my regular intake is set at like 2400 calories, and i cant eat that much, it is impossible. i felt sick and bloated stuffing the 1500 down. no way i could add the extra calories for my work out in. and the working out i love, so i cant cut it down either. lost and not sure what i can do to correct this, down 20lbs in a month, feel great and starvation mode, not with what i am eating. so any ideas? thanx

If you are eating 1500-2000 caloreis of lean steak, lamb, fish,,chicken and protein shakes, Sweet potatoes, brocollim brown rice brown spaghetti and beer... Occasional pizza, and some P____, and are not losing weight??? Let me look at your diary.

taso42

changed setting. journal open. ps. 1500 was working out according to this site, but i used a basic workout, didnt include the shadow boxing, some jogging, squats, park bench dips, pushups

Cool. Got a few comments now
You can drink whole milk instead of 2%. Whole eggs instead of whites. Cook your eggs, chicken, etc, in olive oil. Slather some peanut butter on your apples. Little things like that will add up FAST.

Second thing, large exercise burns are always a little suspect - there's a huge margin of error just using an online tool to estimate calories burned exercising. You might consider getting an HRM. Or maybe you set your calories to maintenance - eat that many, and let your cal deficit come from exercise. Or use the Harris-Benedict equation (like from this site http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthtool-metabolism-calculator), punch in your stats, then subtract 500-1000 calories from that number and eat that target, ignoring exercise.

Hope that helps.

Tourney3p0

changed setting. journal open. ps. 1500 was working out according to this site

1500 isn't all that abnormal for a 300 pound person doing an hour or so on an elliptical, so long as it's on pretty high resistance.

With that said, MFP's numbers can be a bit high since it has no idea at which level of intensity you worked out. You may want to invest in a heart rate monitor if you're consistently logging high numbers. If you overestimate (or underestimate, for that matter) by as little as 20%, you're looking at some pretty substantial calorie discrepancies. A heart rate monitor will give you a much more accurate calorie count and mitigate any potential differences between what MFP says and what actually occurred.

Also, high calorie burns typically mean long and sustained workouts. For that reason, you might want to compensate for your BMR in your logged calories. If your BMR has you at 1.5 calories a minute and you work out for 2 hours, that's 180 calories that you didn't "earn" because your body would have burned anyway. Not really an issue with shorter workouts or when your BMR lowers, though.

pinkita

What have you set your weekly weight loss goal to on MFP? And when did you start?

liftingheavy

okay, so my headline about says it all, but let me give you some ideas. i am 5'11 300lbs, i ate almost 1500 calories today, and burned 1550ish, my regular intake is set at like 2400 calories, and i cant eat that much, it is impossible. i felt sick and bloated stuffing the 1500 down. no way i could add the extra calories for my work out in. and the working out i love, so i cant cut it down either. lost and not sure what i can do to correct this, down 20lbs in a month, feel great and starvation mode, not with what i am eating. so any ideas? thanx

If you are eating 1500-2000 caloreis of lean steak, lamb, fish,,chicken and protein shakes, Sweet potatoes, brocollim brown rice brown spaghetti and beer... Occasional pizza, and some P____, and are not losing weight??? Let me look at your diary.

Sorry so blunt

taso42

not a big fan of peanut butter, and pastas and breads give me horrible indigestion. maybe i am to worried about my diet, most of it is eggs chicken, nuts when i can afford them, and veggies...... love how i am eating, tastes great. keeps me full....... and really i know 3 liters of soda has that many calories. it was mountain dew to make it worse. so thats what packed on the pounds

A whole other approach might be to just eat sensibly using your intuition, and continue to cut out the soda. Maybe you don't need to bother with calorie counting.

jenj1313

Something's got to be off in the logging.

Are you logging your workouts with a heart rate monitory (HRM) or off of MFP? The MFP counts can be way off, though this is probably more true for lighter individuals than heavier ones. I'm 5'6", female, 150 lb and MFP about doubles my calorie estimates vs my HRM.

Today was the first time I've ever had trouble getting to my calorie goals, so I can't really say that I relate, but if soda was what got you there, the person who posted about drinking more calories might have been on to something. Try juices, organic chocolate milk, protein shakes, whatever works for you and brings your calorie count up. You'll probably get a pretty high sugar number that way, but it's better than coming in at -50. Smoothies might be a good option too... you could use milk and peanut butter to get the calories up without quite as much sugar.

Good luck!
Jen

kindra3434

I looked at your journal and I agree with a previous poster....almonds, nuts, peanut butter. I also think you could eat more.

Edit* I also think you could be over calculating your calories burned through exercise.....I notice that a lot on here.

bloodbank

I agree with what's already been said - you've got to figure out how to get more quality calories in your diet if the quantity is enough to keep you full. For example, your scrambled eggs - cook 'em in your fat of choice. The dairy you had - bump it up to full-fat. A glass or two of the water you had - toss back a glass of milk instead.

That said, a day (or a few) of wonky net calories won't hurt you while you figure it all out, but in the long run you need to be fueling your body well so that it performs well!

chnkytim42

set my weightloss at 2lbs a week, my workout is a little bit different then what i record, but it's more of a hit program, i walk a little, then i jog some, then i do a minute or 2 of shadow boxing, the i do squats, pushups, dips, step ups, keep my heart beating fast. and it would be alot to record all of that. rows using a park swing, anything to add variety

Nopedotjpeg

First thing is that I'm guessing you're not really netting -50. While I don't doubt you're burning lots of calories, the MFP estimations can over-exaggerate by a lot sometimes. You still want to eat some of that sooner than later. You don't have to in order to lose weight from where you're at right now, but your muscle mass will thank you for it in the long haul.

As far as food goes, you could maybe try some types of meat and fish with more fats in them. Salmon, steak, certain cuts of pork, etc. Animal fat isn't evil. If grains hurt your digestive system, then as someone else mentioned, sweet potatoes/baked potatoes are a good substitute.

Nopedotjpeg

Also, one way to look at this would be looking at your overall goal. I read on your profile that you wanted to eventually get into the military. From what I understand, you need to run 2 miles in at least 16 minutes and 36 seconds. Most runners will tell you that they need the caloric energy to increase mileage and increase speed. The same goes for all the bodyweight stuff that's required.

BaconMD

set my weightloss at 2lbs a week, my workout is a little bit different then what i record, but it's more of a hit program, i walk a little, then i jog some, then i do a minute or 2 of shadow boxing, the i do squats, pushups, dips, step ups, keep my heart beating fast. and it would be alot to record all of that. rows using a park swing, anything to add variety

Well, as you know, your exercise log does not reflect any of that... You just put in walking. You really should just spend the $60 or so to get a good Polar HRM so you know more accurately what you burn. MFP is way off for many (most?) people.

Also, I suspect you're not logging all of what goes in your mouth, or you'd be super hungry - unless you've suppressed your metabolism. One example I can think of - your scrambled eggs for breakfast, did you use any kind of oil or butter to scramble them, or did you just use a no-stick pan? If you did use an oil, you didn't log it. If you didn't, maybe you should start. And as others have said, nuts are awesome. Try some roasted cashews - that's my addiction. Find something you like and just add here and there, snacks or more at meals.

chnkytim42

i apprexiate all the advice, and it's not falling on deaf ears. i'll try some, but some just sounds not so promising to me........ but i will try to add the little extras yall are givin me. thanx

DopeItUp

i gained the weight by killing almost 3liters of soda a day, not by eating alot, that and mcdonalds, but mostly soda

You do realize that three liters of soda a day could be as much as 1500 calories right? That's (scientifically) the equivalent of gaining about two pounds every day. Soda has calories, calories in excess make us fat.

You may want to check your math. It would take 7000 calories over your maintenance (so for him, roughly 10k a day) to gain 2lbs a day. I'm not sure why you threw in the fact that soda has calories and that excess calories make you fat, that's more or less what he stated himself.

chnkytim42

oh yea, i am addicted to almonds, but most of what yall say are expensive. and i am on a tight budget........ the hardest part

Nopedotjpeg

oh yea, i am addicted to almonds, but most of what yall say are expensive. and i am on a tight budget........ the hardest part

Meat. The cheap cuts of meat tend to be the ones with the delicious fat on them.

chnkytim42

oh yea, i am addicted to almonds, but most of what yall say are expensive. and i am on a tight budget........ the hardest part

Meat. The cheap cuts of meat tend to be the ones with the delicious fat on them.

i used to be a butcher, i know my cuts brotha. lol want the best cut i have found get a chuckeye....... so good. but the cheaper cuts are lean hard to chew. like roundeye, chuck steaks are pretty decent and fatty too but if you dont grill or fry them they get tough. i might have to start adding more tho.

Tourney3p0

oh yea, i am addicted to almonds, but most of what yall say are expensive. and i am on a tight budget........ the hardest part

Plant a pecan tree. In just 15 short years, you'll have all the pecans you can eat.

Seriously though, your first purchase should be a heart rate monitor. Worst case scenario, you find that you're logging your calories spot on. Best case, you find that you actually need to eat (and thus purchase) considerably less food, saving you money in the long run.

chnkytim42

need the monitor and better workout shoes. soon as i get a little extra cash i want to get one, keep looking at them at the store. so much money

Tourney3p0

You can save a few bucks by buying on Amazon. The Polar FT4 seems to be pretty accurate with a sufficient feature set. It'll save you about 30 bucks from buying locally. You could probably pick up a used one on eBay or similar, but make sure it comes with the chest strap.

MerBear30

Have you ever seen that "Fat Head" documentary movie...

infamousmk

i gained the weight by killing almost 3liters of soda a day, not by eating alot, that and mcdonalds, but mostly soda

You do realize that three liters of soda a day could be as much as 1500 calories right? That's (scientifically) the equivalent of gaining about two pounds every day. Soda has calories, calories in excess make us fat.

You may want to check your math. It would take 7000 calories over your maintenance (so for him, roughly 10k a day) to gain 2lbs a day. I'm not sure why you threw in the fact that soda has calories and that excess calories make you fat, that's more or less what he stated himself.

My bad - yes, I meant about one pound every two days. Not sure how I crossed my words. And the reason I bring it up is because I wanted to make sure we were all clear that even though OP said he wasn't 'eating a lot', he was getting a lot of extra calories from soda. My impression was that the OP wasn't clear on the calories he may be drinking.

I'm not trying to be an *kitten*, I know I am some times, but I really was just pointing out the potential calorie count in case OP hadn't put the two together (It's easy for us to space stuff like that when we first start doing this whole calorie counting thing).

atjays

What you do in the gym in terms of a calorie burn has no effect on your metabolism in terms of "Starvation mode" . You're eating an adequate amount of calories and that will keep your metabolism running just fine... for now at least. You'll find in a couple weeks that you're going to get hungrier faster between meals, and you'll want to bump it up a notch. I ate around 2000 calories today and burned over 1000 working out, yes my net for the day is "low" but that is entirely irrelevant, my metabolism still had to process all that food and be at high speed all day regardless if I worked out or not.

Keep doing what you're doing. Just know that you can raise it and easily still lose weight if you decide to add an extra meal into your day. Don't be afraid of food.

Tourney3p0

I ate around 2000 calories today and burned over 1000 working out, yes my net for the day is "low" but that is entirely irrelevant, my metabolism still had to process all that food and be at high speed all day regardless if I worked out or not.

Technically accurate but misleading. In addition to the calories burned working out, you also burned calories keeping your brain, heart, etc from shutting down. You didn't provide enough calories for both. Muscle will be tapped to make up the majority of the deficit.

Cait_Sidhe

Just to put this into perspective, I am a tiny woman (4' 10 1/2") and I struggle everyday to not go over 1500 calories. It sounds like you need to develop a better relationship with food.