7 Scary Food Ingredients
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If all of this stuff is bad for you... and we know it is.... then WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO KEEP PRODUCING IT & SELLING IT???
Easy answer = Profit.0 -
Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.0
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also, don't breathe. reports indicate it causes cancer.0
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Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.
Even glucose?0 -
Lol what garbage
QUOTE:
"We know that high-fructose corn syrup causes obesity, insulin resistance, which is the step just before Type 2 diabetes, and heart disease. So these are important reasons why we want to stay away from this cheap sugar."
Oh it causes obedsity now?
Actually it does:
Unlike glucose, fructose is readily converted to fat by the liver, leading to an excessive concentration of fats and lipoproteins in the body.9 High and prolonged fructose ingestion increases unfavorable lipid profiles in the body. By increasing triglyceride levels12,27—an independent risk factor for coronary heart disease—fructose promotes potentially dangerous lipoprotein changes that increase atherogenic risk. For example, fructose increases apoB100—the primary lipoprotein responsible for carrying cholesterol to the tissues—which leads to the formation of fatty deposits. Conversely, high-density lipoprotein (HDL), which is responsible for carrying cholesterol particles back to the liver to be eliminated, is decreased by fructose.28 Fructose ingestion therefore contributes to fat deposits in the liver (fatty liver)7 and increases the amount of dangerous lipoproteins that enhance cholesterol deposits in blood vessels walls.29 This can lead to plaque buildup and narrowing of the blood vessels—a ticking time bomb for the development of both stroke and heart attack.
Full article here:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_02.htm?source=search&key=high fructose corn syrup
And where in that link does it say it causes obesity?
I stand corrected. That was about the metabolic dangers of HFCS and the fact that it is readily converted to fat by the liver.
Either way it's NOT good for you.0 -
Lol what garbage
QUOTE:
"We know that high-fructose corn syrup causes obesity, insulin resistance, which is the step just before Type 2 diabetes, and heart disease. So these are important reasons why we want to stay away from this cheap sugar."
Oh it causes obedsity now?
Actually it does:
Unlike glucose, fructose is readily converted to fat by the liver, leading to an excessive concentration of fats and lipoproteins in the body.9 High and prolonged fructose ingestion increases unfavorable lipid profiles in the body. By increasing triglyceride levels12,27—an independent risk factor for coronary heart disease—fructose promotes potentially dangerous lipoprotein changes that increase atherogenic risk. For example, fructose increases apoB100—the primary lipoprotein responsible for carrying cholesterol to the tissues—which leads to the formation of fatty deposits. Conversely, high-density lipoprotein (HDL), which is responsible for carrying cholesterol particles back to the liver to be eliminated, is decreased by fructose.28 Fructose ingestion therefore contributes to fat deposits in the liver (fatty liver)7 and increases the amount of dangerous lipoproteins that enhance cholesterol deposits in blood vessels walls.29 This can lead to plaque buildup and narrowing of the blood vessels—a ticking time bomb for the development of both stroke and heart attack.
Full article here:
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/dec2008_Metabolic-Dangers-of-High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup_02.htm?source=search&key=high fructose corn syrup
And where in that link does it say it causes obesity?
I stand corrected. That was about the metabolic dangers of HFCS and the fact that it is readily converted to fat by the liver.
Either way it's NOT good for you.
In what dosage does it become bad for you, any dosage?0 -
Yay for scare mongering. And "preservatives" aren't an ingredient. Preservatives ARE ingredients, but not the way you're wording things.
And trust me, you would rather have preservatives in your food than NOT have them. They aren't just there to scare you. They keep your food from rotting. Oh but I guess we all live near farms...
Oh noes chemicals!! How awful! But do you wanna hear something REALLY scary? Our entire bodies are made up of chemicals!! Quick! Abandon your flesh!!
Agreed! We do need preservatives.
And also, what about sugar that naturally occurs in fruit?0 -
If all of this stuff is bad for you... and we know it is.... then WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO KEEP PRODUCING IT & SELLING IT???
Because it's not bad for you and if you go off everything listed in this thread as "bad" well.. hope you enjoy eating Kale you grow yourself.0 -
Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.
I agree!0 -
I don't get why everything has to be so complicated.
90% of the time, eat healthy, try not to eat things with an ingredient list (i.e. EAT meat from the butcher or meat dept at your grocer, veggies, fruit, ect)
10% of the time, eat whatever else it is you want or need.
EVERYTHING in moderation.0 -
O'rly. Nutrition is confusing, isn't it.:devil:Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.
I agree!0 -
bump for later - looks like this article has a lot of discussion going on for it!0
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Don't forget TBHQ0
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Yup. Totally agree. That's why I do a mostly raw diet.0
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Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.
I agree!
Um. Cellular metabolism requires c6h12o6 to happen. No sugar at all = you're dead.
That being said, i'd prefer to eat things in their more natural state. I avoid any sort of hydrogenated/brominated oil (except my occasional sinful Mt. Dew). I prefer to buy foods without preservatives (my preservative is called the freezer). I'd rather eat xylitol or stevia than aspartame- call me crazy but I know people who live off of diet soda and are fat. Zero calories doesn't equal good for you.
I also don't think i'll die if I occasionally eat processed food (Mt. Dew comes to mind). I'd rather eat sugar than aspartame and run off the calories. Just makes sense to me. But my protein shake has sucralose and I need that protein shake...so you know, you pick your battles.0 -
For one thing, MSG is a fairly common allergen, while natural glutamate is not. (Yes, I'm sure there are people in the world who are allergic to glutamate, but it's not a common allergen.)"The reason why we want to stay away from MSG is that first of all, it's a flavour enhancer, so it makes us want to eat more," she says. "How often do you sit down with a bag of chips and just eat one?"
And how is MSG different from naturally occurring glutamate found in foods?0 -
I mean seriously let's take a look at this list again.
High-fructose corn syrup
Trans fats
MSG (Monosodium glutamate)
Artificial sweeteners (this includes aspartame, Splenda, Ace-K)
Artificial colours (any type of artificial dyes such as Yellow #5, Red #1, etc.)
Artificial flavours
Preservatives
I don't think anyone could avoid these foods for a week, not even a few days. Not entirely. And why would you? It's pointless. You can lose weight and improve your health without reverting to a diet that consists solely of garden fresh foods.
I think a lot of new people read this information, think they HAVE to eat like this (because of the scare mongering in the article and the thread) and give up after they find it isn't possible to live this way. Not for most people.
You don't need to go from fast food junkie to vegan your first month here. Just watch your calories. That's the most important thing.0 -
Foods do not make people obese. People make themselves obese.
Not that I know ANYTHING about fructose... but I see that quote ALL the time, and when we're talking about which foods to avoid because of obesity...... this quote really doesn't apply.
People make themselves obese by eating high amounts of foods which cause obesity.0 -
Did you know that if the level of glucose in your blood was 0 you would likely be dead or almost dead? If the body works to maintain a certain level of a substance , it's seems ridiculous to say that any amount ingested is bad for you.Any form of sugar isn't good for you regardless as to whether or not it's naturally occurring.
I agree!
Like most things, it's a matter of portion. Too much potassium will kill you faster than too much refined sugar.0 -
I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
I recognize that most of us are here for weight control - which happens regardless of the quality of the food you eat... but there's nothing wrong with saying things like:
"Man, I really should avoid MSG because it's massively addicting and makes real food taste like doody in comparison"
"Why does this pasta sauce have HFCS in it? Does -pasta- sauce really require added sugar?"
"Considering they've only been studying this random synthetic substance for 20 years, perhaps I should avoid it until some more comprehensive studies come out!"
As far as the, "I'm -this- healthy or someone I know is -this- healthy and all I/they eat is crap" defense. Good for you! GOOD FOR YOU. I am glad it's worked out for you and the person you know! Meanwhile, some others may not have such trust in our superior genetics so we'd like to make it as easy as possible to maintain our longevity.0 -
I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
Well tell me, what makes peanut butter, milk, protein powder, mayo, mustard, bread and frozen berries so evil. All things that you ate yesterday and were processed.0 -
I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
Well tell me, what makes peanut butter, milk, protein powder, mayo, mustard, bread and frozen berries so evil. All things that you ate yesterday and were processed.
Oh snap.0 -
Foods do not make people obese. People make themselves obese.
Not that I know ANYTHING about fructose... but I see that quote ALL the time, and when we're talking about which foods to avoid because of obesity...... this quote really doesn't apply.
People make themselves obese by eating high amounts of foods which cause obesity.
Right. And if they didn't eat high amounts of those foods they wouldn't be obese by your own logic. So moderation is the key.0 -
I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
Well tell me, what makes peanut butter, milk, protein powder, mayo, mustard, bread and frozen berries so evil. All things that you ate yesterday and were processed.
you just equated someone suggesting not to demonize avoiding processed foods with demonizing using any processed foods.
Does not compute.
plus peanut butter, mayo, mustard, bread, frozen berries, and milk do not have the things listed on that list (depending on the bread, of course): preservatives, MSG, artificial sweeteners, artificial colors, whatever else. I don't have it memorized. Even the protein powder, depending on the brand, might be free of all that stuff.0 -
..I think you have a different definition of processed, buddy. I use the definition that includes "I could make this at home and the ingredient list would be the same" None of the products you mentioned (which I'm quite proud of) contain synthetics and ALL of them I often do make at home when I have more time. Except that banana creme protein, but I was at someone's house and I figured I wouldn't be a jerk and tell them I couldn't have their protein shake. Y'know, 'cause I'm not rude like people who run through other's diaries and try to shame them. Should I say minimally processed, would that please you, or can I just use the common definition? My definition is not the smartass definition of "I took it off the plant, so it's processed".I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
Well tell me, what makes peanut butter, milk, protein powder, mayo, mustard, bread and frozen berries so evil. All things that you ate yesterday and were processed.
Also, occasionally I eat nonfoods like morningstar, which has tons of nonsense in it. However, I try to avoid eating foods like that. Did I say I was perfect? No. I did say that I avoid them. Most of the time I do, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I eat a big fat rice crispy treat or a reeses peanut butter cup.
The point of my entire post was, "Why are you going to be a jerk to someone who wants to eat diferently than you?".0 -
I mean seriously let's take a look at this list again.
High-fructose corn syrup
Trans fats
MSG (Monosodium glutamate)
Artificial sweeteners (this includes aspartame, Splenda, Ace-K)
Artificial colours (any type of artificial dyes such as Yellow #5, Red #1, etc.)
Artificial flavours
Preservatives
I don't think anyone could avoid these foods for a week, not even a few days. Not entirely.....
I think this is funny. Not only have I done it for a few days, or a few weeks, I have it done it for years on end. Its called eating clean. No i'm not doing it currently. I have already said that I currently choose a moderate approach to nutrition. But to say that no one could entirely do it just smacks of...i dunno...the same lack of faith that makes people say they could never do a 1200 calorie diet or work out every day.
just sayin'.0 -
As far as the, "I'm -this- healthy or someone I know is -this- healthy and all I/they eat is crap" defense. Good for you! GOOD FOR YOU. I am glad it's worked out for you and the person you know! Meanwhile, some others may not have such trust in our superior genetics so we'd like to make it as easy as possible to maintain our longevity.
I don't have superior genetics. If I did I wouldn't have spent all my life as a fat guy. I'm not some lottery winner who just happened to be incredibly lucky in regards to weight loss.
I practiced moderation and exercised. Guess what? It works! You don't have to cut out entire food groups and eat only fresh lettuce to lose weight. That's my point.
But everyone who doesn't believe me, who thinks it's not possible to lose weight sustainably with a diet that consists of regular foods you'd find in your grocery store, good luck with your new organic garden. Hope it sprouts quick!0 -
..I think you have a different definition of processed, buddy. I use the definition that includes "I could make this at home and the ingredient list would be the same" None of the products you mentioned (which I'm quite proud of) contain synthetics and ALL of them I often do make at home when I have more time. Except that banana creme protein, but I was at someone's house and I figured I wouldn't be a jerk and tell them I couldn't have their protein shake. Y'know, 'cause I'm not rude like people who run through other's diaries and try to shame them. Should I say minimally processed, would that please you, or can I just use the common definition? My definition is not the smartass definition of "I took it off the plant, so it's processed".I don't think avoiding processed foods is something that should be laughed at and demonized.
Well tell me, what makes peanut butter, milk, protein powder, mayo, mustard, bread and frozen berries so evil. All things that you ate yesterday and were processed.
Cognitive dissonance ...0 -
The point of my entire post was, "Why are you going to be a jerk to someone who wants to eat diferently than you?".
So you're upset with the thread, since it's titled "7 SCARY food ingredients"? I'm not the one who started a thread telling people they had to avoid all processed foods. I responded to that saying people didn't.0
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