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  • TrailRunner61
    TrailRunner61 Posts: 2,505 Member
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    Nothing is wrong with you! We are human and eating is enjoyable!
    Gradually wean your kids off the junk too. They don't need it either or they may end up struggling to lose weight too. They will find enough junk at school, friends homes, etc. anyway. Maybe see a nutritionist for help as they have a lot of good ideas and ways to do it gradually and fit it into your family's lifestyle. Also, have a treat day! But when you do, buy a single serving for yourself or enough to share with your family so it will be used up immediately. You can't totally deprive yourself of foods you 'crave' or you will have cravings for sure. I pick a day of the week, usually Friday, and we will have something we normally wouldn't. It's also an incentive for me to do well during the week, knowing I get the treat on Friday. Good luck and <hugs>, don't beat yourself up about it. :)
  • dianer75935
    dianer75935 Posts: 186 Member
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    You're human.


    Amen!!!
  • DominiqueSmall
    DominiqueSmall Posts: 495 Member
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    I'm not really looking for answers...this is more of a vent. But if you have any words of wisdom or support, please feel free to share!

    Last night I had a binge (on Cheez Its and Tootsie Rolls of all things...nice...sometimes I think weight loss would be so much easier if I didn't let the kids have any junk food in the house but I don't know if that's fair). The good news is that I logged it all. The bad news is that it still happens once every couple of weeks...I keep thinking I am finally beyond it all...and then it happens again.

    I've been at this weight loss journey for almost 3 years and I'm down about 65 lbs--struggling, struggling, struggling to get the last 30 lbs. off. I exercise hard 5-6 days a week, including strength training. I have learned so much about myself, nutrition, behavior changes, triggers, etc...and yet I still have these periodic binges. WTF is wrong with me?? It's like I sabotage myself and I have no idea why.


    I'm gonna get hated on for my point of view but I don't care. This has been my personal experience so I will share it with you and maybe it will help.

    I don't think the issue is necessarily with you.

    First of all, food (especially junk food) is designed to make us crave it. So unless you detox your body every 3-4 months those chemicals are in your body and you will continue craving them.

    Secondly, our food is now devoid of the nutrients our bodies need and so we will crave things because the body is trying to get those nutrients.

    Thirdly, when our body needs a nutrient or micro-nutrient, we get cravings. It's our body telling us that it needs something.

    For instance, many times I will go for something sweet thinking I need that but often my body is telling my I need water.

    Or I will crave a banana cuz I'm really low on potasium.

    There is this saying, we are what we eat. I hate that saying ... or I used to. But I have learned since my brain injury that it is totally true.

    The better quality food I put into my body, and the more consistent I am with detoxing, the less my body craves the bad stuff.

    I actually walk into my kitchen now (after a year of raw eating and Amazing Grass shakes) and look for veggies, cheese, nut butters, tuna, sauer kraut (sp) chocolate (organic kind) and high quality foods.

    And I can still splurge from time to time but my body rarely goes there and when it does it doesn 't like it so much.

    Anyway, perhaps the issue here isn't that your bad, - cuz your not - , but that your body needs something your aren't giving it.

    Feel free to friend me if you would like. I'm here if you need me.

    Dominique
    I examine myself for emotional triggers, psych factors, etc...can't see a pattern. It is just SO D*MN FRUSTRATING.

    Okay, vent over. Thanks for listening...
  • KMS5308
    KMS5308 Posts: 9
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    But you logged it!!!! I am a junk food fiend.....I love junk food. This is a big fault of mine.. I would eat junk food all day long everyday if I allowed myself. I have not cut myself off completely. I just moderated it. I will allow myself a bit once a week, that way I will feel okay about it and still cure that craving. If I don't do this, I end up bingeing on it and go way overboard. Sometimes I will also portion stuff out. Example if I get a box of cheeze its....I immediately open the box, and portion it all out into baggies....then if I want something I know how much I am having right there....and I am not eating out of the box (which leads me to eat the WHOLE box). And this is a great way to teach your kids portion control (overweight or not, portion control is great taught early on!).

    No matter what though, do NOT beat yourself up over it. You are entitled to your mistakes and in the end I think that is what makes us stronger. Be proud that you logged it.
  • chenrytc2
    chenrytc2 Posts: 48
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    So let me get this right - you have lost 63 pounds and binge every couple of weeks?! WOW. You go girl. That is not too bad. Unless you have a hard deadline to lose those last 30 pounds - which would bring you to a total of 93 pounds - then continue what you are doing because it is working or you wouldn't have your current weight loss. I wouldn't rush those last 30 pounds because you may have a yo-yo dieting effect.

    I would recommend having a cheat meal once a week. That may help reduce/eliminate your all out binges. Who really wants to stick to a diet where they can't eat food they like? If you are going to have Cheez Its and Tootsie Rolls - plan for it. Adjust your calories for the day and be sure to measure the amount you are eating.

    Also, I partially agree with REDUCING the amount of junk food you may have around the house. I wouldn't eliminate it because kids NEED fatty foods for body and brain development. Kids are growing and the fat helps with keeping resources readily available. Remember, if you don't buy it, you can bring it home.

    The bottom line is you are successful at losing weight. YOU just need to decide how aggressive you want to be in losing those last thirty. You can continue what you are doing they will be gone or you can ramp it up and lose them in a few months. Either way you have demonstrated your ability to stay committed (3+ years). I have no doubt you will get to your goal!

    Keep up the great work.
  • graciemom828
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    I completely get this - crackers, chips, ice cream are all horrible. I am alone so that should not be an issue but every once in a while I just cave. I buy the baked Cheetos occasionally and sometimes the Special K crackers but it is so hard to portion control. Can't have a container of ice cream - there is absolutely NO portion control with that. Just came from having a dietitian do a metabolism test today and this states my calories given me here on MFP are too low and I s/b eating more. I also need to change up exercise routine. That is just downright scarey to me. My age of 59 and being post-menopausal is also against me. I work 2 jobs and live 40 miles from my gym (am working on moving) also is a problem.

    Guess we just have to say that on occasion we can fall off the diet wagon and have a brief fling and get back on the wagon. I have fought my weight my entire life and I really am sick of it. It is good there is a place like this we can vent and where others understand. If you have not fought a weight issue, you have no understanding of the magnitude of the problem!!:smile:
  • diddyh
    diddyh Posts: 131 Member
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    I would say if those foods are a real treat for you, factor them in. Get the single serving pouches of cheezits and really enjoy your serving. Count out a reasonable amount of tootsie rolls and enjoy them. You don't have to eat them everyday but I wouldn't worry about it. I can't deprive myself of things I love or I will give up. I factor things in and eat less. Over time, I find that I need those things less and I don't need to eat as much.
  • Behavior_Modification
    Behavior_Modification Posts: 24,482 Member
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    For anyone struggling with disordered eating behavior, I encourage you to join our group and participate in the daily discussion thread. This is a non-judgmental place to share thoughts, ideas, experiences, successes, lapses, etc.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/376-binge-eating-support

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/582481-may-june-bed-conversation-thread

    :flowerforyou:
  • bytemeeeeee
    bytemeeeeee Posts: 174
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    You justified having Cheez Its and Tootsie Rolls because your kids need the junk food. Your kids DO NOT need junk food. What's not fair is that you haven't found healthy alternatives that they could love too. You are setting them up for bad eating habits by having foods like this in the house. So not only are you allowing trigger foods that set you off / but you are allowing yourself to give harmful food to your kids.

    Instead of Cheez It's and Tootsie Rolls why don't you find other healthy snack alternatives that you and your family can enjoy. Natural / Organic ones that do not have preservatives and are processed junk.

    Once you get the junk out of your house you will have less of a binge issue.

    Hell, if I had pizza sitting around my house 7 days a week you'd bet your *kitten* I'd be eating it or wanting to. But I choose not to have it in front of me because i'll want to eat it.

    My househould does not have that junk. People love snacks, but I will make a healthy brownie. And i cook the brownies in muffin pans so that they are already measured out and i know i can have one... and if i'm really feeling hungry i'll have two. I make my brownies with yogurt or apple sauce and NOT butter / oils / eggs.

    You need to stop telling yourself you are struggling struggling struggling. Same old story you are telling yourself. Move on. Be someone different. Be strong. Be happy with your progress. Stop complaining about your failures!!!

    good luck.

    I LOVE this post and totally agree~....You are taking your children down the same path that you are trying to change...Have heathy alternatives...
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
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    Last night I had a binge (on Cheez Its and Tootsie Rolls of all things...nice...sometimes I think weight loss would be so much easier if I didn't let the kids have any junk food in the house but I don't know if that's fair).

    I used to feel that way when my kids were younger, but then my daughter started putting on weight when she was 9. As a teenager, she's 5'1" and was up to 165 lbs. until we changed her eating habits a couple of months ago (I'm doing it with her). I wish now I had gotten rid of the junk food sooner, and only let my kids have it occasionally instead of keeping it in the house.
  • lindaschultz45
    lindaschultz45 Posts: 60 Member
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    You definitely are not alone! I think we all feel this way at times. Something that works for me and my teenager is that I keep the 100 calorie packs around for us. There are times I crave sweets....rather than going to buy a cake or something like that, I grab a 100 calorie pack of brownies or cookies just so I don't feel like I'm denying myself everything that others can have.

    I know it can be more expensive this way but it's help my teenager to watch how much she is eating as well. If she is starving when she walks in from school, she'll grab one and it satisfies her.
    You have done great! Keep it up and that is what we are here for....to help encourage one another when we have those crappy days! Wake up and start over! ; )
  • Seminolegirl97
    Seminolegirl97 Posts: 307 Member
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    If you won't eat the "junk food" why do you serve it to your children? Eliminate it from the home period. My parents keep one item considered junk food in the house Lays Potato Chips. And they were strickly a lunch treat. Otherwise it was fruit fruit fruit! Everyone has a bad day. But eliminate the junk from your family's life not just yours. Good Luck.
  • kjerstenkipp
    kjerstenkipp Posts: 139 Member
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    Maybe you would just like to taste the food?
    Alot of the time i find myself eating just because i want to taste it.
    Wow! This is the most helpful thing I have seen all day...seriously...I thought it was just me. There are times when I am full and I have a taste for a specific food...weird stuff . Like the other day, I HAD to have watermelon sour patch and popcorn (wth?)...I ate it, and logged it. I have found that when I want a certain food (and generally it isn't "clean" food) I allow myself to have ONE serving. Portion out the serving, put away the box, and go to another location BEFORE you start eating it.

    So, OP, let's look at your cheez its (which are fabulous) and tootsie rolls (the combo makes total sense to me :-) )

    Assuming regular sized cheez its (not the gigantic ones) and the mini tootsie rolls and assuming that these snacks are kept in a cabinet or pantry in or close to the kitchen...it should go down like this...

    1. Grab a bowl/plate/napkin whatever...
    2. Count out 27 cheez its
    3. Count out 6 tootsie rolls
    4. Put everything away (back in the pantry, cabinet, whatever).
    5. Gather your delightful snack...
    6. Go to another room...living room, dining room, back porch, bathroom (ok, that is a little much)...most importantly NOT in the kitchen by the snacks where refills are readily available.
    7. Have a seat and enjoy your snack...you will likely be satisfied and you haven't done any real harm...Cheez It- 130 cal, Tootsie Rolls 140 cal...all said, a 270 calorie snack...not a binge to beat yourself up about.

    Hope this helps!
  • taraatwood
    taraatwood Posts: 57
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    My househould does not have that junk. People love snacks, but I will make a healthy brownie. And i cook the brownies in muffin pans so that they are already measured out and i know i can have one... and if i'm really feeling hungry i'll have two. I make my brownies with yogurt or apple sauce and NOT butter / oils / eggs.

    I'm not trying to hijack, but I'm interested in this recipe! :) I've been slowly adapting my children's diet to be more healthful. It was never shockingly bad before, but I am always looking for ways to help them develop good habits.

    Would you mind sharing this recipe or telling me where I could find it?! THANKS SO MUCH! :flowerforyou:


    Sure... I got a few requests so I posted it on a blog ---- here it is http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/583327-craving-chocolate-no-guilt-brownie-recipes
  • taraatwood
    taraatwood Posts: 57
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    You justified having Cheez Its and Tootsie Rolls because your kids need the junk food. Your kids DO NOT need junk food. What's not fair is that you haven't found healthy alternatives that they could love too. You are setting them up for bad eating habits by having foods like this in the house. So not only are you allowing trigger foods that set you off / but you are allowing yourself to give harmful food to your kids.

    Instead of Cheez It's and Tootsie Rolls why don't you find other healthy snack alternatives that you and your family can enjoy. Natural / Organic ones that do not have preservatives and are processed junk.

    Once you get the junk out of your house you will have less of a binge issue.

    Hell, if I had pizza sitting around my house 7 days a week you'd bet your *kitten* I'd be eating it or wanting to. But I choose not to have it in front of me because i'll want to eat it.

    My househould does not have that junk. People love snacks, but I will make a healthy brownie. And i cook the brownies in muffin pans so that they are already measured out and i know i can have one... and if i'm really feeling hungry i'll have two. I make my brownies with yogurt or apple sauce and NOT butter / oils / eggs.

    You need to stop telling yourself you are struggling struggling struggling. Same old story you are telling yourself. Move on. Be someone different. Be strong. Be happy with your progress. Stop complaining about your failures!!!

    good luck.

    Wow! What a great response... I hope you don't take offense to what she said and really take her advice. I know I'M going to!! :)

    Tough Love! :)
  • nebraskasam14
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    I think you nailed it when you said that you have been on this JOURNEY for three years. Weight loss is a journey, not a destination. Much like any journey in life there will continue to be setbacks and bumps in the road. I suggest trying to be your biggest fan, not critic. Leave the negative comments for other people to make. In my own journey I have found there is enough negativity surrounding my weight without me adding to it. Just approach with a positive attitude. So yesterday wasn't great, no one can go back and change it, just make today better. Add in some exercise and forgive yourself. As others have suggested, remove temptation if you can not control it, and when you fumble again (which experience has taught me WILL happen)...KEEP GOING!! The journey does not end and as long as you don't give up you will arrive where you want to be one day. I joined this site to track my progress, I know I'm eating healthy and exercising as I should, but because my body it's a yo-yo it can be frustrating when others don't see the progress I am making. Slowly but surely we will both get to our goal. And if my reading has told me anything I can imagine the journey will not end there. MAINTAINING goal weight will be difficult too...just remember it is a journey one day at a time. Celebrate small victories and continue to be honest about the hiccups. You WILL get there, you CAN do it...NOTHING is wrong with you.
  • thomassd1969
    thomassd1969 Posts: 564 Member
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    Dont be so hard on yourself, if you were not aware that you were doing this then there would be an issue.
    I think sometimes I get caught in the thinking that I am doing so well that I will treat myself with a reward (twinkie, doritos, fatty cheese) then I realize that it isnt that I cant have these foods anymore I just need to have them in moderation. It doesnt sound like you do this all the time so dont freak. If you really like these items them have them but count the serving out first. You account for it so whats the harm. If I know Im going to a party or wedding where I cant choose the food I will make sure and earn extra calories from exercise so I dont freak out.
    Also I think it is very fair not to have junk food in the house. We always had junk food around for snacks and boredom when I was a kid and now Im fighting the buldge battle.
  • bilzprincess
    bilzprincess Posts: 107 Member
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    Can u get ur kids on board? Ask them to not bring the junkies in the house? They're like having cigarettes lying on the coffee table when ur trying to quit smoking. It's too soon, and too tempting. It's not like ur asking them to quit eating frsh veggies in front of u. It's junk food. They don't NEED it, and can indulge elsewhere. Or cut back.
  • romach79
    romach79 Posts: 277 Member
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    Don't know if this will help or not - did you know that sugar has a structure very similar to alcohol? (c6-h12-06 vs.c6-h12-OH) and does have addictive properties? In addition, the release of insulin by your body actually inhibits the metabolism of fat. So when you eat sugary substances - cheez-its and tootsie rolls, your body reacts quickly to address the blood sugar rise by dumping insulin into your blood stream - which will metabolize the sugar rather quickly meaning you will be hungry again in a short period of time, yet it will prohibit you from burning any fat as the insulin will persist in your bloodstream for hours. Its kind of an addictive cycle. So if you can break that sugar-insulin cycle you can probably lick that last 30 pounds. I am not sure why we are programmed that way when it comes to sugar, but it sure is a pain to weight control in a society that dumps sugar (in all its varieties - like High Fructose Corn starch) in just about everything we eat.
  • Luandanielle1979
    Luandanielle1979 Posts: 747 Member
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    I dont have junk in the house full stop because I would eat it. If my son wants a treat I will go and buy him one. Having junk in the house for him to eat freely isnt making me a better mum.

    If we're out and about I will buy him what he wants. It keeps me from eating it and him from being greedy. I seriously wouldnt have a supply in if your tempted to eat it. Even a few mouthfuls will make the difference to your weightloss over time.

    I do treat myself occasionally but then I just go and get some thing from the shop and buy x1 if I had a multi pack I will most certainly eat more than the one. You can do it you just have to keep temptation out of the way :O)

    I have 8 lbs left to reach my goal and those last lbs are deffo the hardest to get off :O)