pseudo science and weight loss BS

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  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    and if you are not losing, you must be cheating all the time and not honest with your logging.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Organic.....in the "I don't know why I'm not losing weight I've been doing really good and eating all organic" sense. GGAAAHHH!

    Crunches (and whatever ab work)...yes core strength is important, but people concentrating on it when they have bigger problems drives me bananas...there's a girl at my gym that I've seen for literally years, and she's doughy- needs to lose probably 30 lbs to be a healthy weight, so I applaud her consistency and going to the gym. However, she does like a quick warm up on the elliptical and like 1,000,000 crunches (and planks and other ab work). Ummmm??? You know, Brittney Spears does 500 crunches a day....


    HIIT.....OK I know I'm gonna take some *kitten* for this one, but not everyone can do HIIT, and many people that think they're doing it aren't. Real HIIT requires a certain level of starting fitness for the activity to not be dangerous, and short recovery times to take advantage of HR lag. All intervals are not HIIT!!! I would say all intervals are good and beneficial, but stop pretending they're HIIT. And stop prescribing HIIT to morbidly obese people with minimal baseline CV fitness. Its dangerous.
  • mommyrox05
    mommyrox05 Posts: 238
    "I eat so much less than my skinny friend and yet I'm heavier!!"

    That is almost definitely not the case. And you are probably not with this friend 24/7 so how do you know this anyway?

    This one drives me nuts, people see one or two splurge meals, and or see him/her on the couch and automatically assume that is he/shes life style.

    well . . . I do know LOTS of overweight people eating 1200 calories or fewer a day, while I maintain 130 lbs. at about 2000 per day . . .
    This is probably because they are starving their bodies (1200 or LESS calories a day), and their bodies are storing fat! You maintain on 2000 caloreies a day because you give your body what it needs to maintain.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    "I eat so much less than my skinny friend and yet I'm heavier!!"

    That is almost definitely not the case. And you are probably not with this friend 24/7 so how do you know this anyway?

    This one drives me nuts, people see one or two splurge meals, and or see him/her on the couch and automatically assume that is he/shes life style.

    well . . . I do know LOTS of overweight people eating 1200 calories or fewer a day, while I maintain 130 lbs. at about 2000 per day . . .
    This is probably because they are starving their bodies (1200 or LESS calories a day), and their bodies are storing fat! You maintain on 2000 caloreies a day because you give your body what it needs to maintain.

    LOL, you are one of those people I said in my post.
  • kd_mazur
    kd_mazur Posts: 569 Member
    "GMO is bad for you" :laugh:

    I have asked people 'why' a few times, and nobody has ever replied... funny that!

    Because it sounds all scary and sciency? And like, science is bad, and stuff.

    Reminds me of people posting ingredient lists, thinking it must all be "bad" because they don't know what it is. Someone actually included "sodium bicarbonate" as a "scary" ingredient. Yep. Baking soda sure is awful.

    It is possible that they use chemicals to do the GMO.

    We all know that chemicals give you cancer.

    ...but we're all going to die pretty soon anyway. Dihydrogen monoxide is an additive in practially everything, and it has been shown to cause cancer. 100% of cancer patients were found to have a significant amount of dihydrogen monoxide in their diet. Heart disease patients too. And diabetics.
    Crap, I have consumed a metric ton of dihydrogen monoxide...you can't get away from that stuff, it is everywhere, it even falls from the sky...we're doomed!

    LMAO
  • Abells
    Abells Posts: 756 Member
    "Cleanses" and "detoxing" drive me nuts!

    The only time i "detox" is after I binge drink on a saturday :) (truth not BS )
  • sammi402
    sammi402 Posts: 232 Member
    My friend once attempted to give herself a coffee enema because it would supposedly help her lose 5lbs. :laugh: (I didn't know if i was supposed to laugh or puke when she told me that)
    There's also a some fool around here that says if you pack your body in ice and only eat certain foods the weight will fall of of you.

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  • jenluvsushi
    jenluvsushi Posts: 933 Member
    Anything "Dr." Oz says.....!

    Winner winner chicken dinner!!!!!!!!!
  • butterfli7o
    butterfli7o Posts: 1,319 Member
    Oh, and for some reason a lot of people seem to think that vodka is 0 cal.

    I wish!
  • sammi402
    sammi402 Posts: 232 Member
    I had a coworker tell me the other day that he has a friend who swears he builds muscle best by following this nightly routine: Lift weights, eat 50 grams of protein, watch 30 minutes of porn, go to bed. I laughed in the guys face... he swears it's because watching porn pumps in testosterone that will build muscle while you sleep. lol


    LMAO!! That must be how my hubby did it

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    My friend once attempted to give herself a coffee enema because it would supposedly help her lose 5lbs. :laugh: (I didn't know if i was supposed to laugh or puke when she told me that)
    There's also a some fool around here that says if you pack your body in ice and only eat certain foods the weight will fall of of you.

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    I personally like the coffee tights!

    http://www.tightsplease.co.uk/brands/skinkiss/caffeine-tights/
  • butterfli7o
    butterfli7o Posts: 1,319 Member
    I had someone tell me anything more than 20 minutes of cardio was a waste. So what I quit burning calories after 20 minutes???

    I had someone telling me anything LESS than 20 minutes was a waste!
  • MissTattoo
    MissTattoo Posts: 1,203 Member
    Anything "Dr." Oz says.....!

    Winner winner chicken dinner!!!!!!!!!

    lol Detoxes crack me up too. I'm like wait...isn't that what the kidneys do?

    This guy at the gym told me to stop pausing at the end of my workouts and rush home to drink my protein shake or else all of my hard work would be useless.
  • After any minimum weight gain: "It's your sodium, you need to cut your sodium".

    Seriously, I wonder if these people know anything about hyponatremia and how it can affect your body. I often check on these peoples diaries and they don't follow the rule themselves -- still eat salted butter, condiments, salty processed foods (and not judging who does! I do it myself). Maybe if they knew what lack of sodium does to your body -- the cramps, the muscular weakness, etc, they would actually stop with that BS.
    It only proves that people just repeat the "sodium is the villain on weight loss" myth and spread the word without actually thinking about it.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    After any minimum weight gain: "It's your sodium, you need to cut your sodium".

    Seriously, I wonder if these people know anything about hyponatremia and how it can affect your body. I often check on these peoples diaries and they don't follow the rule themselves -- still eat salted butter, condiments, salty processed foods (and not judging who does! I do it myself). That only proves people just repeat the "sodium is the villain on weight loss" myth and spread the word without actually thinking about it.

    "it's on the internet, it must be true, right?" :noway:
  • WhitneyAnnabelle
    WhitneyAnnabelle Posts: 724 Member
    Anything "Dr." Oz says.....!

    While I dislike the man, he is a well-known (outside of celebrity) surgeon and has been a professor of surgery at places like Columbia University. As much as the stuff he says is crap and seemingly discredits him, he is, in fact, a doctor. And allegedly a good one.
  • cspong
    cspong Posts: 260 Member
    I had a coworker tell me the other day that he has a friend who swears he builds muscle best by following this nightly routine: Lift weights, eat 50 grams of protein, watch 30 minutes of porn, go to bed. I laughed in the guys face... he swears it's because watching porn pumps in testosterone that will build muscle while you sleep. lol
    Lol I think it has more to do with what he's doing while he's watching it. Definitely knitting. I can't think of what else it could be.
    I can never concentrate on my porn when I'm knitting

    DAMMIT WOMAN! I choked on my water when I read that.

    Oh, and btw, did you head choking on water burns 6,000 calories if you do it before sunrise in a Kimono?
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    In addition to the stuff I already posted, I used to work at GNC for a while a couple years ago- if you ever want Broscience to poison your brain, a health product store is the place to work. You get a binder of it with selling points for products, and commission on certain products that makes you shamelessly repeat it. You eat that *kitten* up and start feeding it to other people.

    If there was ever a need for detox, it would be a brain detox after being around too much pseudoscience. Is there a pill for that?
  • jeyko
    jeyko Posts: 368 Member
    I had a coworker tell me the other day that he has a friend who swears he builds muscle best by following this nightly routine: Lift weights, eat 50 grams of protein, watch 30 minutes of porn, go to bed. I laughed in the guys face... he swears it's because watching porn pumps in testosterone that will build muscle while you sleep. lol

    So this is why my fiancé finds it much easier to lose weight than I do!
    Love this one!
  • sz8soon
    sz8soon Posts: 816 Member
    ok, I may take some heat for this one:

    Muscle weighs more than fat.... Muscle is more dense so it takes less mass to equal a pound.

    a pound is a pound is a pound :huh: It drives me nuts when people don't understand the difference is all. Or when they use this response when trying to explain away results or lack there of. Oh I'm building muscle they say- are you weight lifting I ask- 99% of the time they say no- then what are you doing to gain muscle? If your clothes aren't fitting different and your not losing inches either- then your not gaining muscle because the scales not moving- you just quit losing!

    a one pound box of feathers is still one pound,
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    ok, I may take some heat for this one:

    Muscle weighs more than fat....no it doesn't. Muscle is more dense so it takes less mass to equal a pound.

    a pound is a pound is a pound :huh:

    a 1 pound box of feathers is still one pound

    But if you can lift a 10lb ream of paper why can't you lift a 10lb dumb bell?


    (joke. reference to an old thread discussing this.)
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    ok, I may take some heat for this one:

    Muscle weighs more than fat....no it doesn't. Muscle is more dense so it takes less mass to equal a pound.

    a pound is a pound is a pound :huh:

    a 1 pound box of feathers is still one pound

    I truly believe most people know the fact that 1 pound is 1 pound...but when they say it they probably just don't bother to clarify it by saying "per volume". That's just how I see it. :) I don't believe they are that stupid. LOL
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    "Oh you want to lose fat? CARDIO CARDIO CARDIO"
    "Oh you want to gain muscle? LIFT LIFT LIFT"
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    "Oh you want to lose fat? CARDIO CARDIO CARDIO"
    "Oh you want to gain muscle? LIFT LIFT LIFT"

    and this is wrong? I am honestly wanting to know...
  • cherrybomb_77
    cherrybomb_77 Posts: 411 Member
    Bah!
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    "Oh you want to lose fat? CARDIO CARDIO CARDIO"
    "Oh you want to gain muscle? LIFT LIFT LIFT"

    and this is wrong? I am honestly wanting to know...

    Without qualifiers, potentially. I wouldn't call it psuedoscience really, more of something that's just not the whole picture.

    For starters:

    - the two aren't mutually exclusive. Certain amounts of cardio can have benefits for even muscle gain.
    - if you want fat loss while preserving muscle mass, a high tension muscle stimulus is usually necessary, among other requirements. (especially for lean folks). Meaning it's usually more critical than cardio in a deficit (unless you want muscle loss).
    - overdoing cardio can aid in muscle loss (also depends on other factors)
    - cardio usually isn't mandatory for fat loss
    - it's possible that even resistance training can aid in muscle loss in certain situations

    Overall point is that it's not so simplistic as many people think and everything will depend on context
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member

    I can never concentrate on my porn when I'm knitting
    DAMMIT WOMAN! I choked on my water when I read that.

    Oh, and btw, did you head choking on water burns 6,000 calories if you do it before sunrise in a Kimono?

    Ah hahahahahaha! EXCELLENT!
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    "Oh you want to lose fat? CARDIO CARDIO CARDIO"
    "Oh you want to gain muscle? LIFT LIFT LIFT"

    and this is wrong? I am honestly wanting to know...

    Without qualifiers, potentially. I wouldn't call it psuedoscience really, more of something that's just not the whole picture.

    For starters:

    - the two aren't mutually exclusive. Certain amounts of cardio can have benefits for even muscle gain.
    - if you want fat loss while preserving muscle mass, a high tension muscle stimulus is usually necessary, among other requirements. (especially for lean folks). Meaning it's usually more critical than cardio in a deficit (unless you want muscle loss).
    - overdoing cardio can aid in muscle loss (also depends on other factors)
    - cardio usually isn't mandatory for fat loss
    - it's possible that even resistance training can aid in muscle loss in certain situations

    Overall point is that it's not so simplistic as many people think and everything will depend on context

    Well since you put it this way, I guess most of the weigh loss statements fall into this catagory...Nothing will be true standing alone. :) We all know it's a complex and hard process.
  • sleepytexan
    sleepytexan Posts: 3,138 Member
    ALL TIME FAVORITE:

    "Muscle kills girls" -- Amber
  • ariant23
    ariant23 Posts: 161 Member
    you are my new best friend. I can't stand the morons out there with the "sodium". I think they feel smart using the *gasp* chemical name rather than saying salt. OMG! It's a chemical. I need to cleanse the chemical toxin!!!
    After any minimum weight gain: "It's your sodium, you need to cut your sodium".

    Seriously, I wonder if these people know anything about hyponatremia and how it can affect your body. I often check on these peoples diaries and they don't follow the rule themselves -- still eat salted butter, condiments, salty processed foods (and not judging who does! I do it myself). Maybe if they knew what lack of sodium does to your body -- the cramps, the muscular weakness, etc, they would actually stop with that BS.
    It only proves that people just repeat the "sodium is the villain on weight loss" myth and spread the word without actually thinking about it.