Why are some of you so angry?
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This is by far the nicest most politically correct forum I've ever seen. I pity people branching into other forums who get offended here.
I disagree. JBI is the nicest forum I've ever seen. I find it interesting that JBI is nothing but beautiful women preparing for, getting and supporting each other through breast augmentations. There is no cattiness, no arguing, no hatefulness, no jealous outbursts. I would expect it there with an overwhelming amount of young, hot, big breasted women...but nope, nothing but the sweetest people you would ever want to meet.
Then I come here to a website about weight loss and expect to see nothing but more of the same and sure, there are some very sweet and supportive people here but there are also some very negative, angry people. It's a waste of energy to be angry, in my opinion.0 -
This is by far the nicest most politically correct forum I've ever seen. I pity people branching into other forums who get offended here.
I disagree. JBI is the nicest forum I've ever seen. I find it interesting that JBI is nothing but beautiful women preparing for, getting and supporting each other through breast augmentations. There is no cattiness, no arguing, no hatefulness, no jealous outbursts. I would expect it there with an overwhelming amount of young, hot, big breasted women...but nope, nothing but the sweetest people you would ever want to meet.
Then I come here to a website about weight loss and expect to see nothing but more of the same and sure, there are some very sweet and supportive people here but there are also some very negative, angry people. It's a waste of energy to be angry, in my opinion.
Then you've found yourself a very very rare oasis of niceness on the internet.
MFP is VERY tame by internet forum standards.0 -
I \know im gonna get yelled at for this.
The only reason I sometimes get a bit knarky, is the whole "I only eat 500 cal a day-need friends" posts
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The people who post about "oh god, i ate this cookie, im over my cals by 50 for the day, im so sad and im just going to give up"
if you want it bad enough, you either wouldnt have eaten that cookie, or exercise more, or just dont worry about it. people are putting to much pressure on themselves.
If someone on here has an eating disorder and they're using it to try and keep track of their eating, possibly to recover, they're going to make posts like that. And getting "knarky" and short with them about it isn't being supportive of their health and mental state at all. I mean, really people.
Not trying to argue one way or the other, but there are plenty of people with active eating disorders on this site and I used to suffer BAD from bulimia when I was in highschool. I binged and purged up to 15 times a day and restricted calories and did hours of cardio on end... and seeing posts like that DOES make me mad, but not because I think these people are bad people, but because I am pissed off that people are still suffering from eating disorders, and not only that, they are forming little groups and motivating others to do the same. I would never intentionally cut somebody down for suffering through an eating disorder, but I do think its unhealthy to be supporting others in their disorders. Seeing posts where girls are giving advice on how to cut calories to unhealthy levels just makes me sick inside because I was there and I know that it does NOTHING but destroy you. Sure, at first I lost a ton of weight, but the weight started coming back after awhile because my metabolism was shot, and then my depression grew astronomically... and then my teeth were rotted out from purging, and I was weak and completely lost. So, yes, those posts piss me off. I don't want anyone to think that a quick fix restrictive diet is the answer, because it isn't. I wish I would have known now what I do about exercise and nutrition, because I probably never would have suffered through that eating disorder crap to begin with. I guess my anger is because I want so badly to change the way women are seeing themselves and I want them to love themselves enough to be healthy about it. Sorry for my rant...0 -
Im happy to say I am thankful I'm alive0
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Seriously, one should be careful when posting information especially when it is weird posts such as losing muscle on a purpose, fad diets working, lifting weights will make me bulky etc. Many times these information are not healthy at all & no matter how effective that is to the OP, it may not be the same for some MFP members. There are many of us here who has little knowledge about health & which is one reason that they look up on forums for some guidance & if all they see are these kinds of posts then they would easily accept it regardless if that approach is healthy or not. If possible include your source or a scientific study that will prove that those weird approaches are OK otherwise it is just a bogus article. Because many times those who authored those blogs have zero knowledge of the study & they just cherry picked some study which is useless.
I feel alarmed every time I see some posts like that. I'm a frank person & sometimes my posts are easily being misinterpreted just because I don't agree with it. I'm giving out my opinions based on my experience & not because of what I read but sometimes people think I'm angry. Just because I'm defending my opinion doesn't mean that I'm angry or a hater to the poster. If I say "great post" or bump to a post that I think is not helpful then I would be lying.
I don't get it either why we love to sugar-coat everything & thinks that if someone disagrees with you then you think that he/she is a hater.0 -
they are mean because they are hungry
That's not100% true. Some are constipated!
Both of those AND hungover. I know that's when my snark rears its ugly head.0 -
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I've seen some pretty inspiring stuff on MFP and some really amazing people who offer the knowledge they've accumulated to help out a newb or someone struggling to find a solution.
That being said I've seen some pretty hostile stuff from some of you too.
Why are you so angry - why do you feel the need to rip someones head off about something they wrote? Does it not make more sense to just skip the post all together?
You must be exhausted.
OMG I know it.....0 -
I love the Internet tough guy/gal routine some people show off on forums.
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Aren't you being a bit of a hypocrite by starting a separate post just to bad-mouth those angry people??0
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I saw a lady in the store today with a t-shirt that said "I'm right, you're wrong, enough said". Maybe she birthed these people...that would explain a lot...especially since that lady truly believed what was on her t-shirt even though she was far from it.0
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Seriously, one should be careful when posting information especially when it is weird posts such as losing muscle on a purpose, fad diets working, lifting weights will make me bulky etc. Many times these information are not healthy at all & no matter how effective that is to the OP, it may not be the same for some MFP members. There are many of us here who has little knowledge about health & which is one reason that they look up on forums for some guidance & if all they see are these kinds of posts then they would easily accept it regardless if that approach is healthy or not. If possible include your source or a scientific study that will prove that those weird approaches are OK otherwise it is just a bogus article. Because many times those who authored those blogs have zero knowledge of the study & they just cherry picked some study which is useless.
I feel alarmed every time I see some posts like that. I'm a frank person & sometimes my posts are easily being misinterpreted just because I don't agree with it. I'm giving out my opinions based on my experience & not because of what I read but sometimes people think I'm angry. Just because I'm defending my opinion doesn't mean that I'm angry or a hater to the poster. If I say "great post" or bump to a post that I think is not helpful then I would be lying.
I don't get it either why we love to sugar-coat everything & thinks that if someone disagrees with you then you think that he/she is a hater.
^^this
Also, I think a lot of people get really defensive when people do not agree with the way they are doing something - I feel that they get really angry when they are basically being told they have wasted their money/time/energy or have some kind of martyr syndrome.0 -
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well, a few reasons
1) Freedom of speech. The right for which once people gave their lives, nowadays its considered wrong NOT to use that right, no matter if you're right or wrong
2) Internet. See typically if I go up against somebody and just start screaming at them or calling them names, I know most likely I will be punched in the face. The worst possible thing done online is that an mod will MAYBE ban you (most of the time that won't happen since its lost revenue) so you see, people have anonymous voice.
3) While we all like to think that we're good (seriously, go ask a murderer/rapist, he will tell you that he was right) most of the time we just dont see ourselves being the "bad guy". You know that girl who has this pethetic friend who would do ANYTHING for the girl including buying her a car and jewelry and won't even get a measily kiss on the cheek from her. You think in her mind she's evil? Heck no. Same logic here. Nobody's evil in their own mind.
4) And finally and remember this is very important. When you yourself can't have a good day, you can either improve your day or make others life miserable to balance out the playing field. Some folks have evolved and controlled their hormones and have matured enough mentally to know that ruining somebody's else day is not the way to go about it but sadly, thats not the case for most.
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I only mean this half-jokingly but.....
.... some people get fed up seeing the same topics / nonsense / idiots crop up time and time again
.... a lot of people when given perfectly sound advice, say things like 'I don't believe that ( e.g. You should not eat back your cals cos I can SO survive on 500 cals a day) The person who has taken the time to answer them is not thanked but replied to with rubbish like this so they can get a little narky.
.... a lot need their beliefs to be their mantras and their motivation and relish the chance to repeat them as often as possible. They are also reenforcing for themselves as well as answering a question. This can come across as angry.
.... sometimes with all the chatter on the site from various evangelists (no carb, low carb, any sort of carb, carb, no fat, low fat, high fat, not THOSE fats!!) some people feel they have to hammer their point home with a mallet. So they do.
.... TOM. It exists, occasionally some women get narky on it. Don't shoot the messenger.
This is not a fluffy bunny admiration society, it is a primarily a weight-loss site, people here are going to be craving chocolate (or whatever), eating less than they are used to and a lot are hurting from working out. Most are trying to ignore the triggers than sent them down the road of over-eating in the 1st place. Considering all that, it is a wonder there is not wholesale slaughter sometimes. :happy: :explode: :sad:0 -
I agree! Angry people suck 0
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I suppose maybe they are in permanent PMS mode? Or completely filled with Too much testosterone? Or perhaps they are trying to be the "Cool-Kid" that they so desperately wanted to be in school? I know - They're Attention *kitten* - that's it... they are looking for attention, be it positive or negative - WAIT - they're Toddlers acting out! That's it, they are all BABIES!! There. Figured it out.
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.... sometimes with all the chatter on the site from various evangelists (no carb, low carb, any sort of carb, carb, no fat, low fat, high fat, not THOSE fats!!) some people feel they have to hammer their point home with a mallet. So they do.
These evangelists are what annoy me the most on this site, and the only time I travel into Troll Territory is when they say something so utterly ridiculous or insulting or close-minded - I guess I just feel the need to challenge their notions, usually because I hate the thought of some noob reading the garbage diatribes they spew and eating it up with big, hungry spoonfuls.0 -
Yeah I've noticed this... I remember reading this thread about a women who had an awful marriage but had 2 young children by him, she was reaching out for advice and support and she just got flamed completely. It was a mixture of "What's wrong with you posting about your personal life on the internet! What kind of mother are you" and "You're dumb as f* if you think that marriage is about love, you're selfish, you have to work at it for your kids!" "Your kids will grow up without a father because you're a selfish b*" you know, real nasty stuff. God it stressed me out. I mean yeah, I wouldn't personally air my private life on the internet but she was looking for support and she just got shot down. Made me kinda sad. I mean as I say I wouldn't post about my issues online, maybe they wouldn't, but is there need for such hostility?
It just seems unnecessary to be so judgmental - I mean this is a support site, if you've got nothing nice to say or you can't state your opinion in a non-aggressive constructive manner, it's time to move on from the thread? Haha.0 -
Maybe they're hungry or sore or retaining water?
Maybe they're tired of misinformation?
Maybe they spilled coffee on their suit while driving to work?
Maybe they missed the My Little Pony reruns?
Maybe they're just angry inside?
Seriously, though, if you take a day or two and devote it to exploring the corners of the internet... you'll find that MFP is by far one of the cleanest and most respectful communities.
Edited to add: Also, no matter where you go, online or offline, you'll always find some of Those People. You know who I'm talking about: the people that make you despair for the future of humanity. They're absolutely everywhere, rather like ants or glitter, and they also refuse to go away, also like ants and glitter.0 -
This occurs on every website with a forum or a way for members to interact. You get nice, decent conversations and you get knock-out fights over ridiculous crap. That's life on the internet.
Me personally I have anger issues and mental disorders and I live on less than what someone on minimum wage makes. So I'm fairly p*ssy but I'm also civil and can be very supportive.0 -
i chalk it up to having low communication skills. sadly a lot of people do not know how to hold conversations without accusations and hostility. its' all over.0
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I think it stems from lots of things....
.... boredom...
...low self-esteem. I find a lot of people (mainly the bullies) who are mean to others act overly confident and superior because they feel weak and insignificant... They have to bring others down too.
.....shame.... maybe these people feel full of shame for being a failure or weak at something.
......fear.... people are afraid their own personal short-comings will be exposed, so they point out others .....
....lack of proper communication and social skills......other people don't know when to keep their mouths shut....they were never taught that if they have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all....0 -
I saw a post yesterday where somebody had replied with a deragotory and down right rude comment. It could in no way be a matter of fact type comment, taken the wrong way. When a couple of people asked if there was really any need for that, the poster openly admitted that she had deliberately been derogatory, and the op had deserved it, and also that she didnt feel she was rude.
It left me wondering if people like this are only rude/ bad mannered when they are hiding behind their keyboards, or if they are really that nasty and bad mannered face to face, in most cases I doubt it. However as this person didnt even realise she had been rude, she obviously has no clue what good manners are, and so in her case she probably is.just a bad mannered person going through life not knowing how much she hurts people, my annoyance of her hurtful comments, became more of a feeling of pity.0 -
well, a few reasons
1) Freedom of speech. The right for which once people gave their lives, nowadays its considered wrong NOT to use that right, no matter if you're right or wrong
Actually, this is not even close to what freedom of speech actually means. And yes, it does matter if you're right or wrong.0 -
I've seen some pretty inspiring stuff on MFP and some really amazing people who offer the knowledge they've accumulated to help out a newb or someone struggling to find a solution.
That being said I've seen some pretty hostile stuff from some of you too.
Why are you so angry - why do you feel the need to rip someones head off about something they wrote? Does it not make more sense to just skip the post all together?
You must be exhausted.
LOL ~ Great question! :flowerforyou:0
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