strange how many people have a house guest named TOM...
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You, and some others, are assuming I never had a problem. When I was a teenager, the cramps were so bad, I would rock myself in bed for a whole day until I figured out if I ran or did some extreme exercise, it alleviated the cramps...and that was back when women were "too delicate" for extreme sports.
Edit: I realize some women may get extreme symptoms, but if you are well enough to be complaining about it on here, you aren't sick.
Honestly your "problem" is nothing compared to some people here. Your experiences are very normal but mine is extremely painful especially when I was still overweight that I couldn't even stand up because of pain. And I was bleeding really bad & it even gets worse whenever I move not to mention that I feel extremely weak because of the blood loss. The fact that you mentioned "it sometimes embarrasses me to be a woman when other women think they are somehow special for having periods. It's used for an excuse for just about anything a woman doesn't want to do (go to work, work out, etc), or wants to do (cheat on your diet, go shopping, treat yourself "just because")" you are generalizing all women as a whole.0 -
Perhaps its just me but I don't think any man (as I've seen on this thread) has the right to tell us ladies not to talk about our TOM until they start bleeding out of their junk for 3-7 days out of the month. The only posts I've EVER seen referring to TOM has referred to a weigh in number that was higher because of that happy little visitor or varied eating habits. Sometimes I put on close to 5 lbs and will post on my wall "weigh in wasn't great...but won't worry until TOM goes home."
I don't really see what the big deal is...I've never read someone post "WELL LOOKS LIKE I'M PULLING OUT THE SUPER TAMPONS FOR THIS ONE." Geeeesh...I've read a lot more crude things related to the body on MFP...get over it. I definitely don't see how it was big enough of a deal to create a whole thread about....on the other hand its hilarious that the topic makes you uncomfortable but yet your prompted us to discuss if for 4 pages thus far.
Cheers!0 -
Yeah I've heard bad things about this Tom guy and his mother Nature...0
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You, and some others, are assuming I never had a problem. When I was a teenager, the cramps were so bad, I would rock myself in bed for a whole day until I figured out if I ran or did some extreme exercise, it alleviated the cramps...and that was back when women were "too delicate" for extreme sports.
Edit: I realize some women may get extreme symptoms, but if you are well enough to be complaining about it on here, you aren't sick.
Was this also back in the time when women were seen and not heard? If so, I'm pretty sure that would be a good era for you to relive.0 -
You, and some others, are assuming I never had a problem. When I was a teenager, the cramps were so bad, I would rock myself in bed for a whole day until I figured out if I ran or did some extreme exercise, it alleviated the cramps...and that was back when women were "too delicate" for extreme sports.
Edit: I realize some women may get extreme symptoms, but if you are well enough to be complaining about it on here, you aren't sick.
Honestly your "problem" is nothing compared to some people here. Your experiences are very normal but mine is extremely painful especially when I was still overweight that I couldn't even stand up because of pain. And I was bleeding really bad & it even gets worse whenever I move not to mention that I feel extremely weak because of the blood loss. The fact that you mentioned "it sometimes embarrasses me to be a woman when other women think they are somehow special for having periods. It's used for an excuse for just about anything a woman doesn't want to do (go to work, work out, etc), or wants to do (cheat on your diet, go shopping, treat yourself "just because")" you are generalizing all women as a whole.
I am one of the blessed few with 3 days of a light TOM with little to now pain...my biggest symptom is that I eat uncontrollably and tend to be a bit emotional. That being said...I have never generalized because I've witnessed the effects of a terrible, dehabilitating period. I have a friend who will be undergoing surgery because her's are so painful and heavy! My biggest pet peeve is when someone things that everyone is exactly the same! Our bodies are different and react differently to periods, child birth, pregnacy, weight loss, fitness...I could go on and on. Just cause our general plumbing is the same doesn't mean that its identical and that we will all have the same cause and effect....0 -
Thank God for modern medicine. I believe half of all women wouldn't be alive today, cuz they would have died from being female.0
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Thank God for modern medicine. I believe half of all women wouldn't be alive today, cuz they would have died from being female.
I'm sorry, are you going out of your way to be a b!tch or does it just come naturally?0 -
It sometimes embarrasses me to be a woman when other women think they are somehow special for having periods. It's used for an excuse for just about anything a woman doesn't want to do (go to work, work out, etc), or wants to do (cheat on your diet, go shopping, treat yourself "just because"). Having a period doesn't mean you are sick or special in any way. Deal with it and quit inflicting it on others. Thank-you. :noway:
I'm sorry you're embarrassed to be a woman.0 -
o just get over it.0
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It sometimes embarrasses me to be a woman when other women think they are somehow special for having periods. It's used for an excuse for just about anything a woman doesn't want to do (go to work, work out, etc), or wants to do (cheat on your diet, go shopping, treat yourself "just because"). Having a period doesn't mean you are sick or special in any way. Deal with it and quit inflicting it on others. Thank-you. :noway:
I'm sorry you're embarrassed to be a woman.
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.
I'll bet some men would call BS on women if they didn't fear being accused of "not understanding".0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.
I'll bet some men would call BS on women if they didn't fear being accused of "not understanding".
You're obtuse. And all of the views you have so far put forth are less than enlightening. And your understanding of the female reproductive system in sadly lacking.
For the record, you don't get to call BS on anyone unless you're a medical doctor with the patients medical history.0 -
I've never really experienced massive hunger cravings, but I assume that SERIOUS cravings exist, just like SERIOUS cramps do. I also imagine they've got to suck.
Also, SERIOUS mood swings, even though I myself am not a victim of them.
I'd probably talk a lot about my SERIOUS cravings if I was on a diet site and trying to avoid the cadbury egg. If I had SERIOUS mood swings, I would jump down the throat of any man who suggested PMS as a reason for them.0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.
I'll bet some men would call BS on women if they didn't fear being accused of "not understanding".
You're obtuse. And all of the views you have so far put forth are less than enlightening. And your understanding of the female reproductive system in sadly lacking.
For the record, you don't get to call BS on anyone unless you're a medical doctor with the patients medical history.
See! It's a big mystery! And to prove it you accuse me of being stupid. Sorry, it's not a mystery to me.
I could relate, literally, hundreds of BS stories women use TOM for to get out of .. working for one. Here is just one: In a company with approximately 200 manufacturing assemblers, the women's attendance was terrible when a male supervisor was rotated through the manufacturing shifts (6 month rotations). I explained what I was seeing and asked him why he thought the women had such bad attendance on his watch. He said "Well, they tell me they have "female problems" and what can I say?" From then on the women were required to go through a female supervisor when calling in sick, or leaving sick, and suddenly their attendance was nearly the same as for the male employees.
Just like I said in my original post; many women use it as an excuse to be treated differently (special) during that TOM. In this case they knew the male supervisor didn't dare question them. Call me stupid, call me a b!tch, whatever.. that doesn't change anything.
Edit: Oh, and before I go. I never clarified myself when I said "women use it for an excuse".. I didn't say a *few* women use it for an excuse and I didn't say *all* women use it as an excuse. What I believe is: Most women *who use it for an excuse* are full of beans. And.. I think some of you are PMSing. :laugh: (Getting too snarly for the situation presented.)0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.
I'll bet some men would call BS on women if they didn't fear being accused of "not understanding".
You're obtuse. And all of the views you have so far put forth are less than enlightening. And your understanding of the female reproductive system in sadly lacking.
For the record, you don't get to call BS on anyone unless you're a medical doctor with the patients medical history.
See! It's a big mystery! And to prove it you accuse me of being stupid. Sorry, it's not a mystery to me.
I could relate, literally, hundreds of BS stories women use TOM for to get out of .. working for one. Here is just one: In a company with approximately 200 manufacturing assemblers, the women's attendance was terrible when a male supervisor was rotated through the manufacturing shifts (6 month rotations). I explained what I was seeing and asked him why he thought the women had such bad attendance on his watch. He said "Well, they tell me they have "female problems" and what can I say?" From then on the women were required to go through a female supervisor when calling in sick, or leaving sick, and suddenly their attendance was nearly the same as for the male employees.
Just like I said in my original post; many women use it as an excuse to be treated differently (special) during that TOM. In this case they knew the male supervisor didn't dare question them. Call me stupid, call me a b!tch, whatever.. that doesn't change anything.
Again, your personal experience or opinion does not dictate reality. I have been in management for years and have had lots of employees, male and female, and only once have I had a woman call in or have to leave for "female problems," and she was hospitalized. My experience does not invalidate yours and yours does not invalidate mine. They are both valid experiences. However, I do not use my personal experience to paint everyone with the same brush, you do.0 -
Just wait until after menopause...then all the talk will be about how often one poops or doesn't poop..:noway:
I'm a nurse, used to take care of geriatric patients..I swear this will happen.
Too funny!! :laugh: :laugh:0 -
Exactly! Men say this because women have been using it as an excuse. Duh. And.. when they say this, it's usually in sarcasm.
But that's cool that you think so.
I'll bet some men would call BS on women if they didn't fear being accused of "not understanding".
You're obtuse. And all of the views you have so far put forth are less than enlightening. And your understanding of the female reproductive system in sadly lacking.
For the record, you don't get to call BS on anyone unless you're a medical doctor with the patients medical history.
See! It's a big mystery! And to prove it you accuse me of being stupid. Sorry, it's not a mystery to me.
I could relate, literally, hundreds of BS stories women use TOM for to get out of .. working for one. Here is just one: In a company with approximately 200 manufacturing assemblers, the women's attendance was terrible when a male supervisor was rotated through the manufacturing shifts (6 month rotations). I explained what I was seeing and asked him why he thought the women had such bad attendance on his watch. He said "Well, they tell me they have "female problems" and what can I say?" From then on the women were required to go through a female supervisor when calling in sick, or leaving sick, and suddenly their attendance was nearly the same as for the male employees.
Just like I said in my original post; many women use it as an excuse to be treated differently (special) during that TOM. In this case they knew the male supervisor didn't dare question them. Call me stupid, call me a b!tch, whatever.. that doesn't change anything.
Again, your personal experience or opinion does not dictate reality. I have been in management for years and have had lots of employees, male and female, and only once have I had a woman call in or have to leave for "female problems," and she was hospitalized. My experience does not invalidate yours and yours does not invalidate mine. They are both valid experiences. However, I do not use my personal experience to paint everyone with the same brush, you do.
Also I do think you're being a b!tch and stupid. I'm glad you picked it up from the context clues.
Again, you've proven my point. Women don't tell other women they are sick because it's TOM. They tell men that and get away with it.0
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