"You won't get bulky!" they said...but I am! Please help!
sarahkittymeow
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So I just added lifting into my exercise routine a few weeks ago and like my cardio/pilates, I try to go all out (however since I'm a beginner I cannot lift heavy) so I've been doing light (ten pound weight) lifting exercises a few times a week. I started this because I'm at a weight loss plateau with cardio and my muscles are not defined since I'm still around 25% (I don't know really, but this is an educated guess based on other people with my similar body type and status) body fat. Everyone said that if I want to start seeing some real results and get rid of the last of the fat, I need to lift.
Since I'm one of those gals who's goal is to look defined, YET lean and relatively small, I had some reservations about beginning to lift and do Crossfit type exercises. But everyone assured me that wouldn't happen...however, only a few weeks into my new routine, I am disturbed to find that my thighs, although devoid of cellulite and clearly becoming more defined, are bigger and actually touching, for the first time since I've been a little overweight. This bothers me A LOT. Not just because I am rather short and do not like how I look with out my leg gap (since I have very wide set hips for someone with a petite frame) but I can't stand the feeling of them rubbing together.
So what the heck guys! What do I do? Is there a reason this is happening when "light lifting isn't supposed to bulk girls up"?
As happy as I was about incorporating lifting, it will be ruined for me if I begin to look even bigger than when I started, muscle or not. That may sound a tad vain, but for a 21 year old who already has stretched belly skin from a child and damaged leg tissue from a car accident, I just want SOMETHING to eventually go right with how my body looks.
Since I'm one of those gals who's goal is to look defined, YET lean and relatively small, I had some reservations about beginning to lift and do Crossfit type exercises. But everyone assured me that wouldn't happen...however, only a few weeks into my new routine, I am disturbed to find that my thighs, although devoid of cellulite and clearly becoming more defined, are bigger and actually touching, for the first time since I've been a little overweight. This bothers me A LOT. Not just because I am rather short and do not like how I look with out my leg gap (since I have very wide set hips for someone with a petite frame) but I can't stand the feeling of them rubbing together.
So what the heck guys! What do I do? Is there a reason this is happening when "light lifting isn't supposed to bulk girls up"?
As happy as I was about incorporating lifting, it will be ruined for me if I begin to look even bigger than when I started, muscle or not. That may sound a tad vain, but for a 21 year old who already has stretched belly skin from a child and damaged leg tissue from a car accident, I just want SOMETHING to eventually go right with how my body looks.
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Did you take measurements? It's absolutely impossible for your measurements to go up while you are in a calorie deficit. So most likely you aren't in a calorie deficit. Even if you are genetically superior and put on a whole pound of muscle while losing a whole pound of fat (which is damn near impossible) your volume would decrease because the size of a pound of muscle is smaller than that of fat.
So basically, either your subjective evaluation method is flawed or you aren't eating in a calorie deficit.0 -
This could be somewhat of an optical illusion. If lifting 10 pounds is taking your muscles to failure in 10-12 reps, you could be growing muscles, which, until the fat burns away, may appear to make you slightly larger. Another explanation could be that you are using improper form and causing some swelling. I agree with the previous response. Muscle is lean. It will always look smaller than fat.0
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It's hard to say, but :
Your posture has gotten better, and your legs touch because you are standing differently.
You are not eating in a calorie deficit because of incomplete or inaccurate logging.
Missing a thigh gap doesn't make you bulky, in my eyes. Perhaps taking some measurements would help? I saw NO difference in the mirror, but I lost 2" from each thigh. It showed me just how awful my perception was.0 -
Thanks guys. Well, yes I've taken my measurements and I've gotten almost about a half inch on each thigh in the past few weeks. Which doesn't sound like a lot but apparently it's the difference between my thighs touching and not. And, I don't think I'm using bad form because I'm supervised while lifting...but how does that cause swelling anyway, just curious. I will make sure I'm lifting properly. Also, I did want to just calm down and believe that I'm only bigger right now because my muscles are growing but there is still fat present...however when I flex my leg I do feel a lot less fat already and it just seems like my muscles are getting huge too fast, it's weird. And I am definitely in a calorie deficit, have not gone over on my calories in over two months. I'm confused
** and thanks for your input as well! But the problem is not just perception since they not only look bigger, but they physically rub together now which is driving me crazy >.<0 -
Unless you have a need for great strength in your legs, I would not use weights on them. Do body weight exercises. If you use weights, I would not exercise using the heaviest weight you can handle, for 3 or for sets of 8 to 12 reps. That kind of training tends to cause hypertrophy.0
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your muscles can retain some water when lifting. It might go down.
Don't stop lifting. I think your legs will shrink. Mine sure did. I am not sure what happened in the first month but I know they have gotten smaller from lifting.
You aren't going to build muscle on a calorie deficit so I think it is water. You can get stronger sure, but you aren't going to gain muscle unless you eat a surplus. That is my unprofessional option.0 -
Thanks guys. Well, yes I've taken my measurements and I've gotten almost about a half inch on each thigh in the past few weeks. Which doesn't sound like a lot but apparently it's the difference between my thighs touching and not. And, I don't think I'm using bad form because I'm supervised while lifting...but how does that cause swelling anyway, just curious. I will make sure I'm lifting properly. Also, I did want to just calm down and believe that I'm only bigger right now because my muscles are growing but there is still fat present...however when I flex my leg I do feel a lot less fat already and it just seems like my muscles are getting huge too fast, it's weird. And I am definitely in a calorie deficit, have not gone over on my calories in over two months. I'm confused
Since joining MFP I've posted scores of times to say that some women do increase in size and that it bothers some women. Then someone responds by posting a photo of a fitness model or of someone with a different body shape and says it's impossible to get bigger, or you'll get bigger in a uniform manner. It's irritating.0 -
Did you take measurements? It's absolutely impossible for your measurements to go up while you are in a calorie deficit. So most likely you aren't in a calorie deficit. Even if you are genetically superior and put on a whole pound of muscle while losing a whole pound of fat (which is damn near impossible) your volume would decrease because the size of a pound of muscle is smaller than that of fat.
So basically, either your subjective evaluation method is flawed or you aren't eating in a calorie deficit.
This. The only way you would bulk up is if you are eating well above maintenance and lifting heavy. I don't think a couple of weeks will do it. Bust out the measuring tape. You may be retaining water. Give it some more time. I started lifting heavy and my arms feel and look bigger and my shirts are a little more snug in the shoulder area, but I've lost 2 inches off of my arms. I wouldn't throw in the towel for .5 inches.0 -
It's simples.
You started with legs with less muscle.
You added muscle.*
The fat hasn't started to come off from that area yet.
Thus, legs are seemingly bigger.
Persevere.
*Newbie gains / water retention in existing muscle0 -
Use your common sense. Do you really think building muscle is so easy that doing light weights for a few weeks really packs on half an inch of muscle on each thigh? While eating at a deficit no less? If it were that easy, why do bodybuilders have to spend hours a day years on end lifting weights and eating at a surplus?0
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My bet is on water retention. Your muscles are essentially retaining water to help with healing. When I started doing Pilates regularly again, I looked 4 months pregnant at one point! Within a few weeks it went away though and I look much better.0
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Thanks guys, both for the possible reasons (somehow retaining water completely slipped my mind...derp) and for the encouragement as well, I'm going to keep with it and hope everything works out in due time.
That being said, I think it will still be hard getting used to the thigh chaffing if this is permanent
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It's simples.
You started with legs with less muscle.
You added muscle.*
The fat hasn't started to come off from that area yet.
Thus, legs are seemingly bigger.
Persevere.
*Newbie gains / water retention in existing muscle
The part in bold.
You did not add muscle in two weeks hun, I'm sorry. You've stressed yourself, and your body is hoarding fluid to cope.
Also, HEAVY lifting doesn't bulk women up, on a calorie deficit. Light lifting isn't going to either.
If your program was mine to write, I'd put you on a solid full body, 3x a week 5x5 program, with weight you can't lift more than 7x on your first try. I'd cut the cardio to 2x a week tops...and make you do it for a month straight.
With your diet under control...I think you'd be thrilled with your results.0 -
Use your common sense. Do you really think building muscle is so easy that doing light weights for a few weeks really packs on half an inch of muscle on each thigh? While eating at a deficit no less? If it were that easy, why do bodybuilders have to spend hours a day years on end lifting weights and eating at a surplus?
Well I exercise a TON, even before I recently started lifting so I wasn't sure, I mean, I did a lot of strength training to begin with...also, yeah I do think that's possible for some people. The Crossfitters I've met the past few months have had INSANELY quick results with weights. I guess everyone's just different...0 -
It bulks me up to. I'm one of those freaks that gets big from lifting. I put on muscle like a crazy person. I had big muscles when I was 10.
Some girls just have genetics to put on muscle really quickly. About 3 weeks ago I started lifting because I bought into the belief that girls don't get bulky and I already have started to get bigger. I'm quitting lifting and going back to body resistance exercises. It worked much better for my body type.
Lifting heavy doesn't work for everyone. Some people build sufficient amount of muscle mass without lifting heavy.
Maybe when I get to my goal weight I'll add it in if I think I've lost too much muscle during my weight loss. I might get slain for saying this, but I could stand to lose a little of my muscle mass as well
I used to swim competitively and I have always hated my large bulky muscles that came along with it. 0 -
Well it most likely because you aren't losing fat & you're building muscle underneath thick layers of fat so therefore making your thighs a bit bigger or that your muscles are holding on to water after each resistance training workout so the tendency is to have a temporary gains in weight & inches but eventually it will subside. See when you are new to weight lifting, you will experience beginner's gain which is actually a minor gain. Also if you've been lifting for quite sometime now, you will eventually reach a plateau & the only way that you can build new muscle is to eat calorie surplus.
The only way for you to have a defined body is to lower your overall body fat percentage. You can't have a "toned" body when your body fat is high.
Now to burn fat, you have to be in a deficit & as we know 80% mostly comes from diet. As much as possible avoid fast foods, processed foods & empty calories, instead eat whole foods. As for cardio, you might want to swap one of your cardio days for HIIT. Of course keep on lifting weights. You will be needing it to maintain muscle mass.0 -
Thanks guys. Well, yes I've taken my measurements and I've gotten almost about a half inch on each thigh in the past few weeks. Which doesn't sound like a lot but apparently it's the difference between my thighs touching and not. And, I don't think I'm using bad form because I'm supervised while lifting...but how does that cause swelling anyway, just curious. I will make sure I'm lifting properly. Also, I did want to just calm down and believe that I'm only bigger right now because my muscles are growing but there is still fat present...however when I flex my leg I do feel a lot less fat already and it just seems like my muscles are getting huge too fast, it's weird. And I am definitely in a calorie deficit, have not gone over on my calories in over two months. I'm confused
** and thanks for your input as well! But the problem is not just perception since they not only look bigger, but they physically rub together now which is driving me crazy >.<
I believe you...I add muscle quite easily (I'm a woman). This time around losing weight, I purposely do not lift. At some point, I'll add it again to my routine, but not now.0 -
Thanks guys, giving me a lot to think about. I appreciate it!0
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It bulks me up to. I'm one of those freaks that gets big from lifting. I put on muscle like a crazy person. I had big muscles when I was 10.
Some girls just have genetics to put on muscle really quickly. About 3 weeks ago I started lifting because I bought into the belief that girls don't get bulky and I already have started to get bigger. I'm quitting lifting and going back to body resistance exercises. It worked much better for my body type.
It is very rare for anyone to have that type of genetics, perhaps it just happened that you're one of them but for the vast majority its a different case. Anyway body resistance or weight lifting both works wonders for our muscles.0 -
It's simples.
You started with legs with less muscle.
You added muscle.*
The fat hasn't started to come off from that area yet.
Thus, legs are seemingly bigger.
Persevere.
*Newbie gains / water retention in existing muscle
The part in bold.
You did not add muscle in two weeks hun, I'm sorry. You've stressed yourself, and your body is hoarding fluid to cope.
Also, HEAVY lifting doesn't bulk women up, on a calorie deficit. Light lifting isn't going to either.
If your program was mine to write, I'd put you on a solid full body, 3x a week 5x5 program, with weight you can't lift more than 7x on your first try. I'd cut the cardio to 2x a week tops...and make you do it for a month straight.
With your diet under control...I think you'd be thrilled with your results.
Doing exactly this, have been for 4 months and I am thrilled with the results.
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It bulks me up to. I'm one of those freaks that gets big from lifting. I put on muscle like a crazy person. I had big muscles when I was 10.
Some girls just have genetics to put on muscle really quickly. About 3 weeks ago I started lifting because I bought into the belief that girls don't get bulky and I already have started to get bigger. I'm quitting lifting and going back to body resistance exercises. It worked much better for my body type.
More quickly than 100% of men? I'm sorry, I don't think that's the case. You're not getting bigger 'in 3wks' by bulking muscle. Your brain is learning to communicate with your EXISTING muscle more efficiently, and you're retaining water. This will make the muscles you already have seem more dense/harder...and definitely will make them seem larger.
/sighWell I exercise a TON, even before I recently started lifting so I wasn't sure, I mean, I did a lot of strength training to begin with...also, yeah I do think that's possible for some people. The Crossfitters I've met the past few months have had INSANELY quick results with weights. I guess everyone's just different...
Are you doing crossfit? My guess is no, not with 10lb weights. You cannot compare your results with whatever you're doing, to results gained with a well thought out, properly designed program.
Also remember...REST is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PART of any fat burning, strength training plan. Overtraining is far worse for you than under training.
Period.0 -
It's water retention.. It's damn near impossible that you gained muscle that fast.. Esp in a deficit.
As far as the poster telling you not to use weight on your lower half.. disregard that info. I can leg press 238 pounds, and as you can see from my profile pic, my legs are no where near bulky and huge. Once the water retention goes down and the fat drops off a bit, then your legs will look smaller.0 -
It's simples.
You started with legs with less muscle.
You added muscle.*
The fat hasn't started to come off from that area yet.
Thus, legs are seemingly bigger.
Persevere.
*Newbie gains / water retention in existing muscle
The part in bold.
You did not add muscle in two weeks hun, I'm sorry. You've stressed yourself, and your body is hoarding fluid to cope.
Also, HEAVY lifting doesn't bulk women up, on a calorie deficit. Light lifting isn't going to either.
If your program was mine to write, I'd put you on a solid full body, 3x a week 5x5 program, with weight you can't lift more than 7x on your first try. I'd cut the cardio to 2x a week tops...and make you do it for a month straight.
With your diet under control...I think you'd be thrilled with your results.
Thanks, this actually makes me feel a lot better. And I will certainly look into a fitness plan similar to what you've suggested as well 0 -
It's simples.
You started with legs with less muscle.
You added muscle.*
The fat hasn't started to come off from that area yet.
Thus, legs are seemingly bigger.
Persevere.
*Newbie gains / water retention in existing muscle
The part in bold.
You did not add muscle in two weeks hun, I'm sorry. You've stressed yourself, and your body is hoarding fluid to cope.
Also, HEAVY lifting doesn't bulk women up, on a calorie deficit. Light lifting isn't going to either.
If your program was mine to write, I'd put you on a solid full body, 3x a week 5x5 program, with weight you can't lift more than 7x on your first try. I'd cut the cardio to 2x a week tops...and make you do it for a month straight.
With your diet under control...I think you'd be thrilled with your results.
You don't know that though. Some people honestly do bulk up very quickly. I am one of them.0 -
Water retention, and not much fat has come off yet (it takes a really long time to lose fat from hips/thigh for 99% of women... sad but true). If it were that easy to put on muscle, I'd be 30 lbs. heavier 0
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Water retention, and not much fat has come off yet (it takes a really long time to lose fat from hips/thigh for 99% of women... sad but true). If it were that easy to put on muscle, I'd be 30 lbs. heavier
Good point! Well, just discussing this has made me feel a lot better already. Thanks everyone. I do believe I just had myself a little bit of an irrational freak-out session. Such is life *sigh*0 -
It bulks me up to. I'm one of those freaks that gets big from lifting. I put on muscle like a crazy person. I had big muscles when I was 10.
Some girls just have genetics to put on muscle really quickly. About 3 weeks ago I started lifting because I bought into the belief that girls don't get bulky and I already have started to get bigger. I'm quitting lifting and going back to body resistance exercises. It worked much better for my body type.
More quickly than 95% of men? I'm sorry, I don't think that's the case. You're not getting bigger 'in 3wks' by bulking muscle. Your brain is learning to communicate with your EXISTING muscle more efficiently, and you're retaining water. This will make the muscles you already have seem more dense/harder...and definitely will make them seem larger.
/sighWell I exercise a TON, even before I recently started lifting so I wasn't sure, I mean, I did a lot of strength training to begin with...also, yeah I do think that's possible for some people. The Crossfitters I've met the past few months have had INSANELY quick results with weights. I guess everyone's just different...
Are you doing crossfit? My guess is no, not with 10lb weights. You cannot compare your results with whatever you're doing, to results gained with a well thought out, properly designed program.
Also remember...REST is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PART of any fat burning, strength training plan. Overtraining is far worse for you than under training.
Period.
Stop acting like you know everything. Every body is different and gets different results from the same plans. Like I said, I had muscles when I was 10. I've actually been called a "man" for my muscular build. I had never even lifted weights when I had those results. I never said I gained a lot of muscle in 3 weeks, I just said I already started to see negative results. Which is why I am postponing it until I get to my goal weight. I have 105 pounds of lean mass. I'd say that is pretty dang high for someone that only weighs 130.0 -
Adding 2 pounds of muscle/month is considered phenomenal for a guy who is not taking steroids (heck, even for advanced body builders who ARE taking steroids it's not bad). Most women can manage around 1 pound with a large caloric surplus and great routine. If you are on a caloric deficit, even as a rank novice you are not putting on a substantial amount of muscle unless your testosterone levels are at the level of a male.You don't know that though. Some people honestly do bulk up very quickly. I am one of them.0 -
You don't know that though. Some people honestly do bulk up very quickly. I am one of them.
I envy you. I always wanted to have more muscle especially on my butt but sadly its been a year that I'm lifting heavy, eat on a surplus & I make sure that the the grams in my protein intake is close to my body weight & so far only I only gained almost nothing :grumble:0 -
Fortunately, losing muscle mass is very easy. Just eat high carb low protein and do a lot of cardio. Problem solved!Stop acting like you know everything. Every body is different and gets different results from the same plans. Like I said, I had muscles when I was 10. I've actually been called a "man" for my muscular build. I had never even lifted weights when I had those results. I never said I gained a lot of muscle in 3 weeks, I just said I already started to see negative results. Which is why I am postponing it until I get to my goal weight. I have 105 pounds of lean mass. I'd say that is pretty dang high for someone that only weighs 130.0
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