"You won't get bulky!" they said...but I am! Please help!

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  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    crisanderson has answered the question already.

    But can all you fast bulking women send some more testosterone my way please? :happy:

    me too LOL

    I have PCOS & doctors tell me that my testosterone levels are above average for a woman & I always have a muscular build ever since I was a kid. I was always stronger than a lot of girls until now. Modesty aside when I was a kid, I can lift my desk chair made from heavy wood & stainless steel just like my male classmates & without their help.

    Ha! I was thinking the same thing! I have always been stronger than other girls and have a muscular build. When I was in elementary school, I complained to my mom that my legs were fat because all the other girls had chicken legs and I had muscular legs and she just rolled her eyes at me and said grown women would kill to have shapely legs like mine, LOL!

    I have always had really defined arms and legs, but the last several years I have added a layer of fat on top that lessens the definition. And that is the key, isn't it? To shave off the layer of fat so the muscles can show through and to be stronger. I used to say that I "bulk" up easily, but now that I know that it is not bulk, but that I was seeing but muscle definition from losing fat on top and gaining strength, it makes sense to me. Especially now that I am learning how hard it is to actually build muscle.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    It's so much easier to believe you're different and special and a unique f***ing sunflower so the hard work required for results doesn't really apply to you and wouldn't do you any good anyway.

    If you want to lose weight, eat less.
    If you want to gain weight, eat more.
    If you want to lose weight and retain as much LBM as possible, eat at a healthy deficit with adequate macros and engage in a smart resistance training program.
    If you want to increase muscle mass with minimal fat gains, eat at a healthy surplus with adequate macros and engage in a smart resistance training program.

    If you want to strengthen your CV system and increase the amount of calories you can consume in a day while staying within your target calorie allotment, do cardio.

    Strength training and cardio are not mutually exclusive, and although some forms of strength training are more efficient at reaching their goals (i.e. low reps for strength gains, mid reps for hypertrophy, high reps for muscle endurance) you should see some gains across the board as long as you are pushing yourself in your workouts. The same goes for cardio. To the extent that you are ok with a program taking more time and want something you can stick with, go with what you enjoy. To the extent that you are more focused on results, go with a program more geared towards what you want to see.

    Work hard, get results. That's really all there is to it.
  • chrishgt4
    chrishgt4 Posts: 1,222 Member
    I haven't read all the other posts so bear with me if this has already been said.

    What you are probably experiencing are newbie gains.

    Because you have gained muscle but not yet burned off an equivalent amount of fat, they have probably got slightly larger.

    Give it some time, and you will see very little more muscle gain but a significant increase in fat loss which should counteract this.

    You've only been doing this a VERY short amount of time so it's way to early to judge anything.
  • MissTattoo
    MissTattoo Posts: 1,203 Member
    but don't you know that some women are different!? :flowerforyou:

    Yes there are some women who are genetically gifted who gain muscle easier than OTHER WOMEN but compared to a man, NO. There seems to be a lot of confusion especially on women that just because they gain muscle more easily than other women, they automatically assume that they can have bulky muscles like a man. We simply don't have equal amounts of testosterone levels to a man to build large muscles unless we take steroids. Also to be honest, these types of women are very RARE & even guys are having a hard time to gain muscles.

    Whenever we gain muscle, we also gain some fat along with it which makes us look a bit bigger & thus we assume that we "bulk" easily. We cannot totally avoid gaining fat especially when we are in surplus but once you burn the fat while maintaining muscle, you will look smaller & more defined, not bulky. Which is the reason why body builders, bikini & fitness competitors do the bulk/cut cycle.

    Genetics can influence us on muscle gain but its not the end all-be all. In fact it is just one of the factors & it should be COMBINED WITH A CLEAN DIET & TRAINING. Diet is still the main key here. Even if you're one of the "blessed" women in terms of gaining muscle but if you continue to eat crap then nothing will happen to your body except to gain more fat & possibly a clogged arteries or a high LDL cholesterol level (the bad kind).

    I was being sarcastic. ^_^ It just seems like no matter how much proof someone provides, there will be some women who think they gain faster and more than a man.
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    It's so much easier to believe you're different and special and a unique f***ing sunflower so the hard work required for results doesn't really apply to you and wouldn't do you any good anyway.

    If you want to lose weight, eat less.
    If you want to gain weight, eat more.
    If you want to lose weight and retain as much LBM as possible, eat at a healthy deficit with adequate macros and engage in a smart resistance training program.
    If you want to increase muscle mass with minimal fat gains, eat at a healthy surplus with adequate macros and engage in a smart resistance training program.

    If you want to strengthen your CV system and increase the amount of calories you can consume in a day while staying within your target calorie allotment, do cardio.

    Strength training and cardio are not mutually exclusive, and although some forms of strength training are more efficient at reaching their goals (i.e. low reps for strength gains, mid reps for hypertrophy, high reps for muscle endurance) you should see some gains across the board as long as you are pushing yourself in your workouts. The same goes for cardio. To the extent that you are ok with a program taking more time and want something you can stick with, go with what you enjoy. To the extent that you are more focused on results, go with a program more geared towards what you want to see.

    Work hard, get results. That's really all there is to it.

    This ^^^^ A thousand times!!

    The only thing I might change is saying "some gains across the board" because the "women that are afraid to bulk" might misinterpret it to mean gaining muscle, gaining weight, etc. Unless you mean it that way, but I assume you mean gains to whatever goal you are reaching for. Other than that, you should post this on every single dang topic that covers: the "1200" diet, don't want to look like a man/bulk etc, Look at my diary, why am I not losing, etc etc. Heck, just make it a sticky for every topic to infinity and beyond.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    "Did you take measurements? It's absolutely impossible for your measurements to go up while you are in a calorie deficit. So most likely you aren't in a calorie deficit."
    Wrong. I am smaller everywhere else but my legs. My legs have swolen considerabley and I AM at a calorie deficit. It is not muscle. It is water, plus a small amount of gain because of my legs going from no real exercise to regular exercise and through an improved neuromuscular response. I have lost weight and maintained muscle. My pants are now loose in the waist and hips and tight in the legs. Nobody is different, though not every piece of wisdom (real or imagined) on these boards applies to everyone.

    I fixed it for you. You are not a different species.

    No you are wrong and I don't appreciate you telling me I don't know my own body. I have muscle in my legs and other places too. My legs are bigger than when I started. I do weigh less than when I started. My legs are not swollen. They look quite nice actually and my cellulite is gone. In addition to that, almost everything that used to jiggle on my body is now firm. My body fat percentage has dropped. I strength train and do cardio for my workouts. I do eat fewer calories than before and I do eat much healthier food. My daughter has the exact same body type as I do and her legs are also bigger and she weighs less.

    Then please, as has been suggested, submit yourself for genetic/physiological/DNA testing, because you're going to be rich if what you're saying is true.

    And also...to clarify...swollen isn't 'bruised and red'. The swelling happens on a cellular level (which has nothing to do with your phone...just covering that base).

    Let me ask you a question, since you know your body so well. What's your BMR? What's your TDEE? What is your goal caloric intake? Do you meet it regularly? How long of a time frame are you talking about here? Did you eat at that same caloric deficit the entire time? 'Fewer calories than before' doesn't quantify any of the above, please tell us what your 'before' calories were, what they are now, and when you changed them?

    I could go on for an hour...but the point is that there are SO many variables, and without them all...you don't know WHAT your body is doing. What I can promise you though, is that if you gained real, measurable muscle (by the way, it wouldn't have just been on your legs, unless the only workouts you did were leg workouts), you were either very overweight (in which case your measurements would have been smaller not larger), or you were previously an athlete (and I mean an athlete with legs larger and stronger than your current ones), or...and this is the most likely by about 95%...you were eating at a caloric surplus.

    I'm sorry, I don't know you from Eve, but I know you're a human being. And that's all that's necessary to know in this case.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    but don't you know that some women are different!? :flowerforyou:

    Yes there are some women who are genetically gifted who gain muscle easier than OTHER WOMEN but compared to a man, NO. There seems to be a lot of confusion especially on women that just because they gain muscle more easily than other women, they automatically assume that they can have bulky muscles like a man. We simply don't have equal amounts of testosterone levels to a man to build large muscles unless we take steroids. Also to be honest, these types of women are very RARE & even guys are having a hard time to gain muscles.

    Whenever we gain muscle, we also gain some fat along with it which makes us look a bit bigger & thus we assume that we "bulk" easily. We cannot totally avoid gaining fat especially when we are in surplus but once you burn the fat while maintaining muscle, you will look smaller & more defined, not bulky. Which is the reason why body builders, bikini & fitness competitors do the bulk/cut cycle.

    Genetics can influence us on muscle gain but its not the end all-be all. In fact it is just one of the factors & it should be COMBINED WITH A CLEAN DIET & TRAINING. Diet is still the main key here. Even if you're one of the "blessed" women in terms of gaining muscle but if you continue to eat crap then nothing will happen to your body except to gain more fat & possibly a clogged arteries or a high LDL cholesterol level (the bad kind).

    I was being sarcastic. ^_^ It just seems like no matter how much proof someone provides, there will be some women who think they gain faster and more than a man.

    That's very true & its the main reason why a lot of us end up becoming more skinny-fat instead of a firm & toned one. Why do we want to equate ourselves with men despite all the scientific studies & numerous data showing that women's physiology isn't & will never be equal to men? Unless these women have submitted themselves to some tests & the tests proved it, there's no way they should claim to be any different than your average woman. According to three doctors that I went thru because of my hormonal problems that resulted in PCOS, I have an above average testosterone levels for a woman & I have been stronger than a lot of women since I was a kid. I also have a naturally muscular build & believe me, I can easily lift 5 gallons of distilled drinking water like a man. In fact according to my assessment when I joined a gym, it said that I'm a mesomorph or the one who are "genetically inclined" to build muscle easily. However up to this time, I'm having hard time to gain muscle. Sure I'm getting stronger but in my year of lifting heavy, so far I only gained 2 lbs. Like what I said above, genetics is only one of the factors & so its not the end all-be all. In fact its contribution is very minimal compared to a strict diet combined with an intense training.
  • mamamudbug
    mamamudbug Posts: 572 Member

    I strength train and do cardio for my workouts?

    This is what you are doing currently? If so, it means that your body is holding on to water and glycogen for muscle repair.
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.

    I think heavy lifting is the most efficient route to achieving 'a firm muscular look' but it's by no means the only one. Do what you enjoy, as long as you're not overly worried about reaching your goal in the fastest possible manner, going with what makes you happy is probably the better option anyhow since you're more likely to stick with it.

    While everybody is different, there are plenty of things that are universal across all people. We aren't all that special. While some of your experience can (and should) be contributed to genetic makeup and your own history, the vast majority can be explained perfectly reasonably with scientific backing. You're not a genetic freak.

    I'm not going to attempt to make such explanations for a couple reasons:
    1) It's really none of my business. If you're having success doing what you're doing then more power to you.
    2) I don't have enough information to go off of. To be able to answer with any degree of scientific certainty would require a lot more precision than 2-3 pants sizes and a good diet, etc.
    3) While I have done some research to further my own fitness pursuits, I don't know everything and would be doing a disservice speculating on something with insufficient background information.

    For the things I do 'know', reference my previous post in this thread.
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    Bottom line is this: Regular resistance training keeps the body in a near-permanent state of muscle repair where your muscle retains water to facilitate this process. It leads to swelling of the muscles that is not actual muscle _growth_ but swelling that won't go down until the muscle is fully healed from the resistance training activity.

    No offense but if you're at the point strength-wise where you are seeing this from working with 5-10 lb weights when other people are doing those same exercises with close to a hundred pounds, then yeah, you will see some legitimate muscle growth regardless of WHAT kind of resistance training you incorporate because you have pretty much no muscle at all. Adding anything that strengthens your muscles will show SOME (but not a lot) of growth. It's a sign of health. Enjoy it and don't look at it like it's a bad thing.
  • Nataliaho
    Nataliaho Posts: 878 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.

    Why isn't it?? I think this is the real problem here and despite my adoration for cris and the boys, they'll never get it... because for many women this isn't really about strength or weight or muscle or fat... its about trying to fit into this tiny little box of what the perfect woman should look like and it is total BS. For starters this feminine ideal completely rules out entire races of women. visit the pacific islands for example. Then there's the fact that this ideal seems to change from generation to generation or even season to season. It is 100% your business what you strive to look like, but my friendly advise is to embrace your genetic possibilities. Pick a role model that at least shares your shape, otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure.

    Personally I spent my formative years dreaming that one day I would wake up and look something like this:
    claudia_schiffer_burnt_orange.jpg

    But i realised I may as well try to sprout an afro..

    now I am aiming for this:
    Curve1.jpg

    Still a massive goal, but at least a possible one...
  • Personally I spent my formative years dreaming that one day I would wake up and look something like this:
    claudia_schiffer_burnt_orange.jpg

    But i realised I may as well try to sprout an afro..

    now I am aiming for this:
    Curve1.jpg

    Still a massive goal, but at least a possible one...

    Just laughed so hard at your afro comment. It's true though, it is a huge problem that the "ideal" for women is so slim, and that at one point in almost every girls life, including mine, the ultimate goal to somehow resemble the top photo was/is so prevalent. Once you accept what you can reasonably achieve within your genetic and physical dimensions, you can begin to visualize a "perfect you", customized to be a goal within reason and without putting your health at risk.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    now I am aiming for this:
    Curve1.jpg

    Still a massive goal, but at least a possible one...

    A very worthy goal Miss!


  • A very worthy goal Miss!

    Agreed! About the only thing I'm always proud to admit about my body is that I have been genetically blessed with a "Kardashian booty" (thank you mom) and the thing I look forward to most is that if I play my cards right and stick hard with my exercise plan, my bum should someday look just like that :D
  • Nataliaho
    Nataliaho Posts: 878 Member
    Just laughed so hard at your afro comment. It's true though, it is a huge problem that the "ideal" for women is so slim, and that at one point in almost every girls life, including mine, the ultimate goal to somehow resemble the top photo was/is so prevalent. Once you accept what you can reasonably achieve within your genetic and physical dimensions, you can begin to visualize a "perfect you", customized to be a goal within reason and without putting your health at risk.

    Plus I could bench-press Claudia Schiffer :)
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Just laughed so hard at your afro comment. It's true though, it is a huge problem that the "ideal" for women is so slim, and that at one point in almost every girls life, including mine, the ultimate goal to somehow resemble the top photo was/is so prevalent. Once you accept what you can reasonably achieve within your genetic and physical dimensions, you can begin to visualize a "perfect you", customized to be a goal within reason and without putting your health at risk.

    Plus I could bench-press Claudia Schiffer :)

    I think I remember seeing some of your impressive power lifting stats - you could probably bench two of her!!
  • Just laughed so hard at your afro comment. It's true though, it is a huge problem that the "ideal" for women is so slim, and that at one point in almost every girls life, including mine, the ultimate goal to somehow resemble the top photo was/is so prevalent. Once you accept what you can reasonably achieve within your genetic and physical dimensions, you can begin to visualize a "perfect you", customized to be a goal within reason and without putting your health at risk.

    Plus I could bench-press Claudia Schiffer :)

    You go girl ;) Just saying, a ton of my guy friends (and apparently just lots of dudes nowadays) think that a woman who is visibly strong and can lift is a hell of a lot more impressive/sexy than some 00 model. (Not saying that there's anything wrong with tiny gals...but this is pretty much exactly what my buddies have said.)
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Just laughed so hard at your afro comment. It's true though, it is a huge problem that the "ideal" for women is so slim, and that at one point in almost every girls life, including mine, the ultimate goal to somehow resemble the top photo was/is so prevalent. Once you accept what you can reasonably achieve within your genetic and physical dimensions, you can begin to visualize a "perfect you", customized to be a goal within reason and without putting your health at risk.

    I know a lot of men, of all levels of fitness, and various ages...and I don't know a single one of them who would prefer the top picture to the bottom. I can safely say that was the case throughout the entire almost 30yrs that I've been aware of women as more than the gross 'other' people of the schoolyard.

    The clothing industry, does NOT equal society.
  • Nataliaho
    Nataliaho Posts: 878 Member
    I think I remember seeing some of your impressive power lifting stats - you could probably bench two of her!!

    Maybe 1.5x... but she'd have to maintain a good plank :)

    Anyway, to the OP my point is this. I believe that your thighs have gotten bigger, but don't know enough science to say why. What I will BET you is that they look sexy as hell and you should just buy new pants... or wear booty shorts;)
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.

    I also have the same case as per my doctors & the gym as I mentioned in my previous posts but I'm proud of it & in fact my boyfriend even finds strong women sexy. I don't care what other women say, anyway we love to set crazy standards on ourselves so no wonder why a lot of us especially the young suffer from body image issues. Which is why whenever I get bad comments from females especially on my body, I just ignore them or tell them to f*** off.

    If you're muscular, be proud of it instead of being ashamed of it. You said it yourself that we cannot gain like a man, all we need to do is to burn that fat off to reveal sexy muscles that sculpts & shapes our body that will make us look toned, not bulky.

    EDIT: I'm sorry if I keep on editing my posts, my English is really poor so forgive me. This site should have a sentence translator & a preview button :grumble:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Option B FTW :love:
  • Carebear530
    Carebear530 Posts: 49 Member
    I find it hard to believe you would gain muscle that fast. Not that it can't happen but not likely. I would keep lifting lighter weights. I usually gain a little weight at first too but then I lose it. Hang in there.
  • mes1119
    mes1119 Posts: 1,082 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.

    Why isn't it?? I think this is the real problem here and despite my adoration for cris and the boys, they'll never get it... because for many women this isn't really about strength or weight or muscle or fat... its about trying to fit into this tiny little box of what the perfect woman should look like and it is total BS. For starters this feminine ideal completely rules out entire races of women. visit the pacific islands for example. Then there's the fact that this ideal seems to change from generation to generation or even season to season. It is 100% your business what you strive to look like, but my friendly advise is to embrace your genetic possibilities. Pick a role model that at least shares your shape, otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure.

    Personally I spent my formative years dreaming that one day I would wake up and look something like this:
    claudia_schiffer_burnt_orange.jpg

    But i realised I may as well try to sprout an afro..

    now I am aiming for this:
    Curve1.jpg

    Still a massive goal, but at least a possible one...

    Well, I already have the muscle mass of the second girl. I'm just trying to get rid of the fat on top. I don't need to lift to do that. I think the first girl is hideous, never said I wanted to look like a stick figure. I just look even bigger when I lift because my muscle grows and my fat stays there. Cardio/bodyweight resistance and diet has helped me get closer to looking like that. Making sure I get enough protein and eat enough has helped me lower body fat and maintain muscle mass without lifting anything over 15 pounds.

    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    Not saying I gain faster than a man, but I definitely put on muscle faster than any females I know. I lifted for 3 years in college when I was a competitive swimmer. I was bigger and fatter than I am now (a whole 2-3 pants sizes bigger) and I had a good diet (and worked out a good 4-6 hours a day).

    Some women simply do bulk up. Why you may think that this look is attractive, some women don't like it. I've been teased ALL my life for having large muscles. Not saying I gain faster than a male, just saying that my muscular build is not "feminine" like many people on here claim will happen when women lift heavy.

    Some women are simply stronger and more muscular than others from higher testosterone levels and genetics. Not all women need to "lift heavy" to have muscles.

    I'm just sick of everyone saying that you HAVE to lift to look good and have a firm muscular look. Some women have them naturally. Every body is different.

    Why isn't it?? I think this is the real problem here and despite my adoration for cris and the boys, they'll never get it... because for many women this isn't really about strength or weight or muscle or fat... its about trying to fit into this tiny little box of what the perfect woman should look like and it is total BS. For starters this feminine ideal completely rules out entire races of women. visit the pacific islands for example. Then there's the fact that this ideal seems to change from generation to generation or even season to season. It is 100% your business what you strive to look like, but my friendly advise is to embrace your genetic possibilities. Pick a role model that at least shares your shape, otherwise you are setting yourself up for failure.

    Personally I spent my formative years dreaming that one day I would wake up and look something like this:
    claudia_schiffer_burnt_orange.jpg

    But i realised I may as well try to sprout an afro..

    now I am aiming for this:
    Curve1.jpg

    Still a massive goal, but at least a possible one...

    Well, I already have the muscle mass of the second girl. I'm just trying to get rid of the fat on top. I don't need to lift to do that. I think the first girl is hideous, never said I wanted to look like a stick figure. I just look even bigger when I lift because my muscle grows and my fat stays there. Cardio/bodyweight resistance and diet has helped me get closer to looking like that. Making sure I get enough protein and eat enough has helped me lower body fat and maintain muscle mass without lifting anything over 15 pounds.

    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.

    Pilates, power yoga & resistance band exercises also works wonders for your muscles without the added bulk but in my case I still prefer to lift heavy since right now I'm on cutting phase & I don't want to lose those precious muscles away while I'm on deficit. On the flip side, I love the attention that I'm getting at the gym both from men & women including the PTs whenever they see me perform 8 pull-ups, deadlift 70 lbs., bench press 60 lbs., arm exercises 35 lbs. each arm & squat at 75 lbs. they would all give me weird looks & especially that being the only woman in the free weights area sharing the exact same weight with the guys.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.

    Yep, supposedly even on a deficit.

    Whatever.
  • cPT_Helice
    cPT_Helice Posts: 403
    Did you take measurements? It's absolutely impossible for your measurements to go up while you are in a calorie deficit. So most likely you aren't in a calorie deficit. Even if you are genetically superior and put on a whole pound of muscle while losing a whole pound of fat (which is damn near impossible) your volume would decrease because the size of a pound of muscle is smaller than that of fat.

    So basically, either your subjective evaluation method is flawed or you aren't eating in a calorie deficit.

    ^^This^^ Plus, if you can put on that much muscle to be actually noticeable in a mere 3 weeks using only 10 pound weights, you need to bottle that and sell it. Seriously, it's not possible. In addition, if you were building on your legs, they wouldn't touch, they would get leaner and more defined. Fat would do what you are describing. Muscle would not.
  • Nataliaho
    Nataliaho Posts: 878 Member

    Well, I already have the muscle mass of the second girl. I'm just trying to get rid of the fat on top. I don't need to lift to do that. I think the first girl is hideous, never said I wanted to look like a stick figure. I just look even bigger when I lift because my muscle grows and my fat stays there. Cardio/bodyweight resistance and diet has helped me get closer to looking like that. Making sure I get enough protein and eat enough has helped me lower body fat and maintain muscle mass without lifting anything over 15 pounds.

    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.

    Totally cool, I was mainly responding to the part I bolded, where you said "my muscular build is not "feminine""... I bet you're totally feminine and hot !
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.

    Yep, supposedly even on a deficit.

    Whatever.
    Some people are so blinded by their own beliefs that they believe the laws of the Universe do not apply to them :)
  • Awkward30
    Awkward30 Posts: 1,927 Member
    I LOVE my muscles. I just don't want to make them any bigger than they already are. And I know my body, and it builds muscle very quickly. Just saying, lifting isn't for everyone.

    Yep, supposedly even on a deficit.

    Whatever.
    Some people are so blinded by their own beliefs that they believe the laws of the Universe do not apply to them :)

    Now you're just being silly. They don't apply to everyone, I saw Jackie Chan run up a wall.