just doing cardio

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  • Shakila87
    Shakila87 Posts: 70
    MFW!

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  • lin7604
    lin7604 Posts: 2,951 Member
    so basically if i keep doing my JM's dvd's 30ds and rin30.....for the strength part of it, how many days a week do you recommend? the walks will happen on a daily basis no matter what, i have a puppy ;) i just want to have a exercise routine that i will be able to keep up for the rest of my life, not one that is just for the moment, if you know what i mean. That is why once i finished my last rin30 dvd i just started to do them still but less and continue with my walks and bike rides... i can do that daily for the rest of my life. that way i won't fall of the exercise wagon ever.... i am not hard core when it comes to exercise, so i needs easy and simple :)
  • parvati
    parvati Posts: 432 Member

    Your heart rate actually needs to be between 75%-85%. Not 50%. 50% doesn't even break a sweat. Just saying.


    sigh.... "Minimum of 50% of your HR Max to be classified as cardio" by book definition for arguements sake as far as classifying what is and what isnt cardio.
    I wouldnt break a sweat at 50% either!! But there are many people that would!

    What you are refering to is a specific target heart rate zone... Just saying.
  • parvati
    parvati Posts: 432 Member
    so basically if i keep doing my JM's dvd's 30ds and rin30.....for the strength part of it, how many days a week do you recommend? the walks will happen on a daily basis no matter what, i have a puppy ;) i just want to have a exercise routine that i will be able to keep up for the rest of my life, not one that is just for the moment, if you know what i mean. That is why once i finished my last rin30 dvd i just started to do them still but less and continue with my walks and bike rides... i can do that daily for the rest of my life. that way i won't fall of the exercise wagon ever.... i am not hard core when it comes to exercise, so i needs easy and simple :)

    Because its hard for you to fit into your schedule, aim for a minimum of 3 times a week, if your schedule allows you, try for up to 5 days a week. Those are both great videos & should help you with the tummy toning, over all toning as well as weight loss. JM videos are designed to give you a combo of strength training mixed with cardio. When you get bored with those two videos, or as you get stronger, i do recomend JM's "Trouble Zones" & "Burn Fat, Boost Metabolism" both really great videos, both 40 minutes long. Good luck with your journey, sorry for the dispute in your original post. :)
  • lin7604
    lin7604 Posts: 2,951 Member
    no prob and thanks! I have done both dvd's twice in full swing and had ok results. sinc ei am so close to my goal i am looking at a lifestyle that is just kinda maintaining.... and i can see these 2 dvd's in 3 times a week for sure till i get really bored of them. i do really like rin30... i will look into those other 2 as well.... but i definitely don't want anything longer then 40 min. i love the 30 min ones... i just figured that if i keep doing these ones my body will just get used to the moves and not show more results. I started 30ds back in dec and rin30 in feb. then the other side of me says it's better then nothing just like my walking, and it's something moving me so it will always benefit me,lol....
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    no prob and thanks! I have done both dvd's twice in full swing and had ok results. sinc ei am so close to my goal i am looking at a lifestyle that is just kinda maintaining.... and i can see these 2 dvd's in 3 times a week for sure till i get really bored of them. i do really like rin30... i will look into those other 2 as well.... but i definitely don't want anything longer then 40 min. i love the 30 min ones... i just figured that if i keep doing these ones my body will just get used to the moves and not show more results. I started 30ds back in dec and rin30 in feb. then the other side of me says it's better then nothing just like my walking, and it's something moving me so it will always benefit me,lol....

    Can you do chins?

    3 rounds of:
    1 minute of chins for reps
    30 second break
    1 minute of pushups for reps
    30 second break
    1 minute of bodyweight squats for reps
    30 second break

    You could be in fantanstic shape and this 13 minute workout should still gas you. Workouts don't need to be long.
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Calm down people. Walking IS cardio!! Just not intense cardio. I think we can all agree that all cardio has different levels of intensity. A walker is not going to get their heart rate up like some one doing sprints, HIIT's, or runners. It all depends on what your goals are. If you want to challenge yourself...you pick up the pace. But absolutely walking is cardio!!!!
  • amandavictoria80
    amandavictoria80 Posts: 734 Member
    so basically if i keep doing my JM's dvd's 30ds and rin30.....for the strength part of it, how many days a week do you recommend? the walks will happen on a daily basis no matter what, i have a puppy ;) i just want to have a exercise routine that i will be able to keep up for the rest of my life, not one that is just for the moment, if you know what i mean. That is why once i finished my last rin30 dvd i just started to do them still but less and continue with my walks and bike rides... i can do that daily for the rest of my life. that way i won't fall of the exercise wagon ever.... i am not hard core when it comes to exercise, so i needs easy and simple :)

    I don't really consider Jillian Michaels 30DS "strength". It' a butt kicker, no doubt. But strength, not unless your dumbbells have sufficient weight.
  • amandavictoria80
    amandavictoria80 Posts: 734 Member
    so basically if i keep doing my JM's dvd's 30ds and rin30.....for the strength part of it, how many days a week do you recommend? the walks will happen on a daily basis no matter what, i have a puppy ;) i just want to have a exercise routine that i will be able to keep up for the rest of my life, not one that is just for the moment, if you know what i mean. That is why once i finished my last rin30 dvd i just started to do them still but less and continue with my walks and bike rides... i can do that daily for the rest of my life. that way i won't fall of the exercise wagon ever.... i am not hard core when it comes to exercise, so i needs easy and simple :)

    Because its hard for you to fit into your schedule, aim for a minimum of 3 times a week, if your schedule allows you, try for up to 5 days a week. Those are both great videos & should help you with the tummy toning, over all toning as well as weight loss. JM videos are designed to give you a combo of strength training mixed with cardio. When you get bored with those two videos, or as you get stronger, i do recomend JM's "Trouble Zones" & "Burn Fat, Boost Metabolism" both really great videos, both 40 minutes long. Good luck with your journey, sorry for the dispute in your original post. :)

    "Toning" is a word that doesn't really exist in fitness. Judging by your profile pic, you know that already. ;) lol
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    A persons size & activity level absolutely dictates what is cardio & what isn't!!!! Are you kidding me?!?
    If a 250 lb person who hasn't exercised for years goes for a walk with a 150lb person who exercises 5 times a week they are going to completely different workouts for each of them! For the heavier sedentary person, this walk will most likely be cardio for the lighter fitter person, this is more like a warm up.

    When I was in college, I walked everywhere because I did not have a car... would prob. walk a good 2-3 miles at least 5 days a week if not more. I weighed 180 at the time, so I wasn't obese but I was still overweight.. so I thought when I started exercising, I would be just fine.. but I wasn't.. why? Because I was out of shape from not eating correctly and drinking like a fiend.

    So it goes to show that a person can exercise all they want, but if everything isn't in check, they may still be out of shape.

    To OP:
    Sorry for derailing your thread even more :)
    I hope you got some of the answers you were looking for!
  • amandavictoria80
    amandavictoria80 Posts: 734 Member

    Your heart rate actually needs to be between 75%-85%. Not 50%. 50% doesn't even break a sweat. Just saying.


    sigh.... "Minimum of 50% of your HR Max to be classified as cardio" by book definition for arguements sake as far as classifying what is and what isnt cardio.
    I wouldnt break a sweat at 50% either!! But there are many people that would!

    What you are refering to is a specific target heart rate zone... Just saying.

    I'm not sure where you get that info? Working at 50% is warm up or maintenance and hardly sufficient. Ones heart rate needs to be at a minimum of 60% for it to be considered aerobic.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    A lot of people are confusing 'cardio' (as in cardiovascular) with 'exercise'. Not the same thing.
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    Calm down people. Walking IS cardio!! Just not intense cardio. I think we can all agree that all cardio has different levels of intensity. A walker is not going to get their heart rate up like some one doing sprints, HIIT's, or runners. It all depends on what your goals are. If you want to challenge yourself...you pick up the pace. But absolutely walking is cardio!!!!
    I consider walking to be cardio. But for our purposes, arguing about what is and what is not cardio is about as useful as trying to define "clean". The latter is subjective.
    The term "cardio" is a colloquialism - defining it isn't very easy. For example, all resistance training involves the cardiovascular system to some degree.
  • shannashannabobana
    shannashannabobana Posts: 625 Member
    I disagree with the people that said walking isn't cardio

    Me too. I will agree it doesn't burn a ton of calories, though, compared to some other stuff. I have been doing a walking hills/interval treadmill routine though that is a really good workout!

    I also disagree about cardio not building muscles, because I think it depends. I found Biking consistently a few days a week did wonders for my legs. YMMV.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    Yes you can lose fat by just doing cardio, as long as your nutrition is good and you're leaving yourself a calorie deficit.
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Calm down people. Walking IS cardio!! Just not intense cardio. I think we can all agree that all cardio has different levels of intensity. A walker is not going to get their heart rate up like some one doing sprints, HIIT's, or runners. It all depends on what your goals are. If you want to challenge yourself...you pick up the pace. But absolutely walking is cardio!!!!
    I consider walking to be cardio. But for our purposes, arguing about what is and what is not cardio is about as useful as trying to define "clean". The latter is subjective.
    The term "cardio" is a colloquialism - defining it isn't very easy. For example, all resistance training involves the cardiovascular system to some degree.

    Nice use of the word colloquialism

    For simplicity's sake I do 2 kinds of work outs -

    cardio - where the main focus of the work out is to get my heart rate up, sometimes in intervals and sometimes at steady state
    strength training - main focus is picking up things that feel heavy to me

    We all know the 'cardiovascular system' is working during all forms of exercise
  • parvati
    parvati Posts: 432 Member

    I'm not sure where you get that info? Working at 50% is warm up or maintenance and hardly sufficient. Ones heart rate needs to be at a minimum of 60% for it to be considered aerobic.



    For YOU 50% might be a warm up because of YOUR fitness level but that is not the case for every individual....
    As for where im getting my info, its what is stated in the "nationally accredited" resource manuals that you get when you aquire your PT, WT & FIS specialist certifications....

    Where are you getting your info? Google?
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    For YOU 50% might be a warm up because of YOUR fitness level but that is not the case for every individual....
    As for where im getting my info, its what is stated in the "nationally accredited" resource manuals that you get when you aquire your PT, WT & FIS specialist certifications....

    Where are you getting your info? Google?

    Wouldn't an unfit person experience an increase in heart rate from lower exertion levels? My understanding was that the heart rate would still be high just at a lower intensity level for exercise. This would make walking more likely to fall into a 'cardio' classification for an unfit or overweight person than for a fit person. To me this makes sense.
  • lin7604
    lin7604 Posts: 2,951 Member
    ok i am going to chime in now.... I couldn't care less at what my heart rate is at and who considers walking cardio or just exercise... that was not my question to begin with! call it what you want, whether or not you see it as cardio or just exercise the point is i am moving and not sitting on my *kitten* :) ok.... the point i am trying to get answered is i am not a hug exercise freak and don't do it as often as i should for variable reasons... so now that i am almost at my goal i want to just maintain but see if i can get a bit more of my lower belly fat off. that's all... otherwise i am 100% happy with my loss and how i look.... I try to eat good 80% of the time, my eating habits have done a complete 360 and i do get off my butt to exercise just not as often as i was when i was trying to loose it. I can get in a good 30 min no prob after that it's not always a guaranteed thing daily. so if 30ds or rin30 is all i can get in strength related i think it's better then nothing even if some don't consider that strength.... i tell you i have see the difference with those dvd's and i don't need to go hard core or get ripped, etc.. i just don't want to be as soft...and those dvd's have done what i want. so back to my original question, if one can say that walking or going for a few bike rides a week and doing my jm' dvd's 3 times a week will be good to maintain my weigh loss and maybe still help reduce some of my lower belly fat, then that is great and i will continue to do what i have been doing...... thx
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    Your question is discussed in the thread I linked.
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    ok i am going to chime in now.... I couldn't care less at what my heart rate is at and who considers walking cardio or just exercise... that was not my question to begin with! call it what you want, whether or not you see it as cardio or just exercise the point is i am moving and not sitting on my *kitten* :) ok.... the point i am trying to get answered is i am not a hug exercise freak and don't do it as often as i should for variable reasons... so now that i am almost at my goal i want to just maintain but see if i can get a bit more of my lower belly fat off. that's all... otherwise i am 100% happy with my loss and how i look.... I try to eat good 80% of the time, my eating habits have done a complete 360 and i do get off my butt to exercise just not as often as i was when i was trying to loose it. I can get in a good 30 min no prob after that it's not always a guaranteed thing daily. so if 30ds or rin30 is all i can get in strength related i think it's better then nothing even if some don't consider that strength.... i tell you i have see the difference with those dvd's and i don't need to go hard core or get ripped, etc.. i just don't want to be as soft...and those dvd's have done what i want. so back to my original question, if one can say that walking or going for a few bike rides a week and doing my jm' dvd's 3 times a week will be good to maintain my weigh loss and maybe still help reduce some of my lower belly fat, then that is great and i will continue to do what i have been doing...... thx


    LOL...I hear ya! Your whole thread got totally hijacked (I myself have some part in this :blushing: ).

    But YES when it comes down to it just keep moving, you're doing awesome:flowerforyou:
  • lin7604
    lin7604 Posts: 2,951 Member
    thx. and opps i forgot to read the link.... i opened it and that was it,lol i'll get to that now.
  • TexanThom
    TexanThom Posts: 778
    thx. and opps i forgot to read the link.... i opened it and that was it,lol i'll get to that now.


    Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
  • Nessiechickie
    Nessiechickie Posts: 1,392 Member
    I also disagree with people saying that walking is not cardio, except for if you walk very slowly of course.
    My mother-in-law has lost over 20 pounds for just walking everyday over 1hr a day, she walks very fast and does hills.
    That is all I am doing at the moment for exercise is walking and just started yoga.
  • lin7604
    lin7604 Posts: 2,951 Member
    wow that thread was overwhelming....
  • FlyeredUp
    FlyeredUp Posts: 632 Member
    Lin I would recommend also implementing some type of weight training program as well, If you dont, about 22% of your your total weight loss ( depending on the person) will be made up from lean muscle and you will be much more happier with the way you look once you reach your goal then if you dont start a weight lifting program. Good Luck!
  • hesn92
    hesn92 Posts: 5,966 Member
    You can lose weight without exercise as long as you have a caloric deficit.
  • parvati
    parvati Posts: 432 Member
    For YOU 50% might be a warm up because of YOUR fitness level but that is not the case for every individual....
    As for where im getting my info, its what is stated in the "nationally accredited" resource manuals that you get when you aquire your PT, WT & FIS specialist certifications....

    Where are you getting your info? Google?

    Wouldn't an unfit person experience an increase in heart rate from lower exertion levels? My understanding was that the heart rate would still be high just at a lower intensity level for exercise. This would make walking more likely to fall into a 'cardio' classification for an unfit or overweight person than for a fit person. To me this makes sense.

    Yup! I've said that several times today in this thread!
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    Lin I would recommend also implementing some type of weight training program as well, If you dont, about 22% of your your total weight loss ( depending on the person) will be made up from lean muscle and you will be much more happier with the way you look once you reach your goal then if you dont start a weight lifting program. Good Luck!
    Where did you get 22% from?