Gun for conceal / carry
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You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
The gun death rate and homicide rate may be higher in America, but it is NOT because of the legal CC firearm owners. If you disarm America, only the bad guys will have guns. Now that is a scary thought! I would rather be safe than sorry.0 -
I work some cold case homicide and serve papers. y picture is my Beretta, she is my early warning system and cadaver dog. I carry a Bersa model 83, 380 cal. I really like it. It is easy to shoot and easy to clean, breaks down into only 3 parts. My son works at a gun shop and I rely on him for guidance.0
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At the risk of being told to butt out I have noticed that there is this huge culture difference between America and Australia in regards to guns! Now I'm a country girl so I appreciate guns, I've been shooting (although only with various rifles) and I was even at the gun debate when all the laws were changed here. I didn't agree with them then and I do recall someone asking me lots of questions to make sure I knew what I was talking about cos I was only 12 or so, I said making guns illegal just means that criminals will get them on the black market or use knives etc instead. In the places I have lived I have never felt the need to carry a gun, I've known to avoid some places at night and I usually have something heavy enough to hit someone over the head but not a gun. Is the crime rate in America higher than Australia? What do the less experienced people carry? Is it easy to find places to learn about using and maintaining your guns - not just books and the people who sell them?0
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This is what I carry, a little Taurus snub nose 38 special. It's light, holds five and packs a punch.
That looks like the one I just bought for my hubby. We both carry a Taurus .357 Mag. I also have snake shot for it. We live way out in the sticks and have plenty of rattlesnakes. We also are the Meth capitol of Colorado. That is why I carry!0 -
1. h&k 45 usp compact
2. Glock 19
4. S&W 38 snub nose airweight0 -
Don't forget Chicago!!!New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
i live in chicago. i am a police officer and im telling you i would not go anywhere in this city without my weapon. period0 -
I cant stress enough get trained properly on the use of what ever weapon you choose. when you decided to carry it takes the use of fire arms to a whole knew leval. Contact the NRA and you should be able to get pointed in the direction of quality tactical training. Just because you know how to clean and clear the weapon does not nessarly mean you can carry safely Add the stress of having to defend your self or a loved one and the training has to be commited to muscle memory.
H&K USP 40 Compact: I have big hands so the H&K's full size grips are nice also the weapon is very reliable.
Good luck be safe and Train Train and Train some more!
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I cant stress enough get trained properly on the use of what ever weapon you choose. when you decided to carry it takes the use of fire arms to a whole knew leval. Contact the NRA and you should be able to get pointed in the direction of quality tactical training. Just because you know how to clean and clear the weapon does not nessarly mean you can carry safely Add the stress of having to defend your self or a loved one and the training has to be commited to muscle memory.
H&K USP 40 Compact: I have big hands so the H&K's full size grips are nice also the weapon is very reliable.
Good luck be safe and Train Train and Train some more!
Edward
i strongly 2nd this! you can never train enough! i also train a lot on attacking dogs a lot of people dont know how hard it would be to defend yourself from a dog that is sprinting to attack you i tie some string on a 2 liter pop bottle and have a buddy pull it between my legs at me and i practice drawing my weapon and firing at it. i train in many diff situations that i have heard of happening or could happen also0 -
Lots of great advice and quality weapons mentioned here. Just a couple of observation I have made.
Yes; make sure the weapon you choose is comfortable for you
Yes; make sure you train with the weapon you are going to carry and the holster you are going to carry it in, I have assisted
instructed in NRA home defense and Concealed Carry classes and have not seen a person be able to comfortable draw
from Bra; Thunderwear; Fanny packs or the Portfolio/Briefcase holsters. So consider not only the type of gun you are going to
carry but the holster.
Yes; a good concealed weapon will not have a lot of bells and whistles and I recommend that unless you are going to train
consistently avoid overly complicated safeties. Also avoid exposed hammers as they can get caught on clothing while
drawing.
For work my Back-up Gun {BUG} is always the same and in the same location. However off work I have several that I will carry and various locations depending on the season and attire I am in. I have also spent time with each weapon and trained.
Kel-Tec and Glock both put out good products IMO; you will need to decide on the caliber, large caliber make big holes; smaller calibers bounce around and make multiple holes.
Lastly ammunition you are going to use in your weapon is not the place to be thrifty on.0 -
Why would you carry? Why do you feel the need?
This.
also this! Can't and wouldn't in the UK. Get a water pistol. Less dangerous!0 -
why do you need a gun???0
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Never saw the need to carry a gun, obviously here in England its illegal to carry one. I never had one in the 20 years I lived in Johannesburg in South Africa cant understand why you think its necessary carry one ?0
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Why do you need a fire extinguisher, you can call the Fire department if theres a fire...?
Its a tool to help in a situation you hope will never happen.
The gun you should carry is the one you trained with and can shoot accurately, comfortably and reliably.0 -
Why do you need a fire extinguisher, you can call the Fire department if theres a fire...?
Its a tool to help in a situation you hope will never happen.
The gun you should carry is the one you trained with and can shoot accurately, comfortably and reliably.
A gun doesn't help anyone just kills people.0 -
Why do you need a fire extinguisher, you can call the Fire department if theres a fire...?
Its a tool to help in a situation you hope will never happen.
The gun you should carry is the one you trained with and can shoot accurately, comfortably and reliably.
A gun doesn't help anyone just kills people.
My *kitten*.
It would help my kids keep their FATHER in the case that he's attacked by a criminal. Or their LIVES in the case that that criminal is intent on carjacking. They don't exactly wait for you to unbuckle your children from car seats around here.
Pure, unadulterated ignorance...I'm sorry.0 -
A gun doesn't help anyone just kills people.
Actually people kill people, with various tools. You find me a gun capable of thought and self awareness and you'd prove me wrong0 -
Replying without having read all the responses (so there may be some duplication).
1. There is no right answer. Only the best answer for you. My best answer is different than yours.
2. Pick a gun / caliber that you are comfortable with. Train with this gun as much as possible.
3. If you need help making a decision, check with your local gun shop / range - they may offer a try it before you buy it option, rental program (for range use only to test out various options) or hold Manufacturer day events that allow you to try out their products for free.
4. Don't buy a gun based only upon recommendations. Use those recommendations as information to choose which weapons you wish to try.
5. Practice. Practice. Practice.
With all this said, my choice of carry is Kimber Pro Carry II. Spendy but worth it.0 -
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are you freaking crazy? maybe when i gear up to go to work tomorrow ill just throw a squirt gun in my holster and hope the drug dealer or whoever i am looking to arrest that day doesn't kill me. were already out gunned the way it is on the streets.
or you know maybe the next time the marine corp deploys me to a-stan or other combat zone they can issue me some rocks im sure that would work great! haha maybe im over reacting but for me my weapon has saved my life or life of my friends family and coworkers many times here or in a combat zone.0 -
Don't forget Chicago!!!New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
i live in chicago. i am a police officer and im telling you i would not go anywhere in this city without my weapon. period
That is the whole problem right there guns being legal and police carrying guns0 -
Don't forget Chicago!!!New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
i live in chicago. i am a police officer and im telling you i would not go anywhere in this city without my weapon. period
That is the whole problem right there guns being legal and police carrying guns
I'm convinced this person is a troll.
I mean, I know that we shouldn't be armed. That's lunacy!! Neither should the police!
Just the criminals.
Again, ignorant, asinine statements.0 -
Forgot one sage bit of wisdom.
Before you figure out what gun or caliber, you should figure out what is the most comfortable / efficient way for you to carry. That may influence the other choices.0 -
Our police don't carry guns , except in exceptional circumstances . I've lived in cities with serious gun crime in South Africa but never saw the point in carrying a gun . I also don't think this is the place to discuss it0
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Which ever one fits your hand and the one you will actually carry all day long! You want an automatic with a rail. They carry more bullets, are trivial to re-load quickly and you can easily mount a laser. Under stress, even with lots and lots of practice, you will forget how to aim properly. Buy a laser ... and an expensive, comfortable holster (I'd recommend something that is shirt-tuckable, like a Crossbreed).
9mm hollow-point will stop any human. If you are concerned about penetration factors, alternate the load of the magazine with FMJ, JHP, FMJ, JHP, etc. It's also the cheapest practice round to buy, which means you can afford to practice more. As for size, just about any handgun can be concealed with any 2-piece outfit of clothing. However, I chose a compact (CZ P01) because it's large enough to easily control, lighter to carry, the sight radius is still very good and is just a bit easier to conceal. It was also less expensive than the H&K P30 and for me, more accurate. I found sub-compacts to be painful to practice with.
As for brands/models, if armies or cops don't buy them, I'm not betting my life on it, either. Beretta, Browning, CZ, FNH, H&K, Glock, S&W M&P, Sig-Sauer, Walther. No matter what, try before you buy! For me, it takes a box of ammo to get a decent idea of how a pistol performs for me.
I highly recommend this article: http://www.corneredcat.com/Trying_On_a_Handgun/0 -
deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
haha idk why but i just thought of this part of a few good men while reading some of these posts0 -
my bro likes to use a .38 s&w airweight revolver as his backup. i have one of these too. i dont C&C but it weighs about the same as my little 22 and shoots beautifully. its one of my main house defense weapons.0
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Love this thread - OP, thanks for posting. Making my Christmas list from what I learn here.
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I'm leaning towards a small 9... like a S&W 5906.. I don't really like 380's, and my favorite gun is a bit too heavy to carry. If you find a good one, let ME know. 0
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deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
haha idk why but i just thought of this part of a few good men while reading some of these posts
Amen!!!0 -
deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
haha idk why but i just thought of this part of a few good men while reading some of these posts
Amen!!!
There is a line earlier in the movie where Cruise and Moore first meet Nicholson in Cuba. I wish I could remember the line verbatim but Nickleson tells them that just over the wall there are men who at any moment will shoot the good men who are standing that wall.0 -
Nice to see all the recommendations for the Kel-Tec P-3AT.
I unfortunately own its earlier dysfunctional cousin, Grendel P-12. Due to a broken hammer spring it might serve as a decent paper weight now.0
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