Corn used my man-parts as a speedbag.

LesterBlackstone

I think I'll take my chances that my health issues later in life will have less to do with canned vegetables and more to do with the fact that I let myself get obese in the first place.

fallacy.

The point is clearly that you could potentially have a better quality of life (though more likely toward the end, I think) eating unprocessed foods vs all processed regardless to your physical condition, not that your condition has no bearing.

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

AllTehBeers

I think I'll take my chances that my health issues later in life will have less to do with canned vegetables and more to do with the fact that I let myself get obese in the first place.

fallacy.

The point is clearly that you could potentially have a better quality of life (though more likely toward the end, I think) eating unprocessed foods vs all processed regardless to your physical condition, not that your condition has no bearing.

Not that it matters, of course, I just mean that I'm not saying your physical condition isn't to be without consideration when all factors are taken into account.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

kympow

I think I may you.... Cuz it Dr. Oz says it, it must be true! As long as I can rub salt in my stretch marks I will be good...

Jamee_J

Thank you

dorothytd

Yup, clicked on it for the crazy title, but read all the pages out of love for the post! This is why I have successfully lost and maintained weight - but refuse to open my food diary! (Whoops, sorry - insert sound of lid flying off can of worms!) :happy:

leslturn8

. There was a professor somewhere that spent all his calories on junk (specifically twinkies I think) and managed to lose weight.

I can tell you i lost 21 kilos eating hot chips, sausage, battered sav and lots of bread....its all about portioning and exercise! (Im not healthy in eating I can only portion the crap i do eat and walking was what made me lose weight, wish i did weights too "jiggles gut fat")
I can also tell you that since i joined MFP I have been so inspired that ive done a bit of everything and not lost one bloody kilo.....:explode: I wasnt even going to read this post! I clicked it by accident and glimpsed a word when i clicked back....:drinker: Here here!

DopeItUp

Should be required reading before you are allowed to post. Though the forum would probably die as 90% of the oft-repeated questions would be stopped in their tracks.

halobender

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

mcarter99

Embarrassed to be here but glad to find an oasis of sanity in this desert of misinformation. Or should I call it mythinformation.

redcat17

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

FeatherBoBeather

Haha @ the title. xD

Great post!

hypallage

Great post OP....

Thank you.

superflus

Truth.

AllTehBeers

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

I have heard this before. I think frozen vegetables taste so much better then canned, and probably have less sodium but I currently don't really have a freezer.

crisanderson27

YEAH! and reach your goal when you become a senior citizen.

Yes...I can see it clearly...

The ignorance in this statement that is.

djsysstem

We'll follow your list just because you said so and you have sick biceps.......


Nah kidding, good post

BlisterLamb

bump

thebutteredtoast

Excellent post, good sir.

kdeaux1959

Oh thank god. I just ate peanut butter on toast. In bed. Glad to know I haven't done any major damage! :bigsmile:

Well, except for the rest you lose when sleeping on those toast crumbs... LOL>

Le_Joy

2 weeks is not a plateau.

Thank you!

ebelliss

love this!!

Alex_is_Hawks

oh god i love this post....can i be your friend.

that's just awesome.

L

taunto

YEAH! and reach your goal when you become a senior citizen.

Yes...I can see it clearly...

The ignorance in this statement that is.

Its funny because he failed at making fun of old people

Pomoch325

MisterTEZ

what on earth is the cabbage donkey stew diet?
LOL

great thread

rai8759

True! Thanks for the post. While others are trying a new fad diet every couple weeks/months and seeing no results I can make actual progress by eating within my calories and working out... consistently. Yay!

awisegirl84

bump

Cliffslosinit

Love it!!
Didn't read all the other people's posts.

So can i add "You can NOT target fat in a specific area" for weight loss.
ex. " Help how can I lose just my belly fat"?

parvati

Now copy & paste this to 95% of the stupid posts in the forums!!!

redcat17

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

I have heard this before. I think frozen vegetables taste so much better then canned, and probably have less sodium but I currently don't really have a freezer.

Veggies are veggies. Unless you have BP problems, don't worry about the sodium. :flowerforyou: