Cursive Writing

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  • aamb
    aamb Posts: 377 Member
    i'm in shock that kids are not being taught to write...anything!!! :huh:
  • lorib75
    lorib75 Posts: 490 Member
    one more way to fall behind the rest of the world in education.
  • goldk
    goldk Posts: 1,651 Member
    Great topic! My daughter's school is not teaching cursive. I told her that I will be teaching her cursive over the summer :bigsmile:
  • Kelleinna
    Kelleinna Posts: 160
    I'm 29 years old, and I actually learned cursive before I started kindergarten because my mom got me a cursive writing tablet and I self-taught (and I started kindergarten at age 4). However, I have never, EVER used it outside of a school setting since then aside from signing my own name. Print is generally clearer and easier to read, especially when you spend most of your time with people who had maybe a 4th grade education in a third world country and don't read so well in their native language, much less English (and this is the crowd I usually run with). I am a business professional and have never, NEVER needed to use cursive at work aside from my signature.

    I guess what I'm saying is that it doesn't bother me any if they drop it. Of course, my ten year old already knows it.
  • linda1243
    linda1243 Posts: 166
    I think they still have to learn it until people completely stop using it. what are they supposed to do when they get a letter with cursive hand writing? A lot of thank you notes (business and personal) are still done in cursive. Would you be able to look at it and read it if you didn't know what cursive letters looked like?
  • kstrunk1
    kstrunk1 Posts: 462 Member
    I am a teacher and it broke my heart when there was talk of taking it our of our curriculum. Luckily, our district has kept it in so far. I teach 1st-3rd graders and although it is a standard for third graders, many of my seconds were dying to learn it this past year and were developmentally ready so I taught it. They LOVED it and were trying to write everything in cursive. They wanted to write more stories during writer's workshop. There is a pay off right there!!

    At a minimum, they have to learn to sign their names in cursive for their paychecks when they get older. Plus, I agree with the poster who likened it to becoming a lost art. When I'm not teaching the *correct* form to my students and am writing in my every day life, my writing is a combo of printing and cursive BUT it's mine and it goes faster for me. I never would have come up with my own chicken scratch if I'd never learned cursive. If we only teach printing or keyboarding, then we are taking this opportunity to learn it away from the following generations.

    Just my two cents worth ...

    Now don't get me started on taking away recess, physical education, art and music ... GRRRRRRRRR!
  • CoffeeNBooze
    CoffeeNBooze Posts: 966 Member
    We can stop teaching them math while we're at it since we have calculators and all that.

    This.

    Ok I am really annoyed they would think of taking it away just because of technology. Newsflash! Some of us write in cursive!! I do!! And not all of us are addicted to our iphones and tablets and whatever the hell else is making us dependent and whiney.
  • bpwparents
    bpwparents Posts: 359 Member
    I think that they are already phasing it out. I can remember that once we learned cursive in school, we could no longer write any essays/papers in non-cursive. My kids at 10 & 13 never have to use cursive, EVER. They had to learn it, but that was the end of it. I do agree though about the grammar. Due to texting & spell checks, they need to spend MORE time on proper grammar now. Or at least they should.
  • kstrunk1
    kstrunk1 Posts: 462 Member
    Great topic! My daughter's school is not teaching cursive. I told her that I will be teaching her cursive over the summer :bigsmile:

    YES!!!! Good for you!! My students look forward to learning it!! :)
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    I homeschooled my kids and taught them traditional cursive, as well as the more practical Getty Dubay italic style of writing. The italic style is faster than the loopier style, and works well for taking class notes.

    My kids are 20 and 16 now, and definitely use italic for notetaking, and they can write a mean thank-you note. They also learned to type at very young ages, and like so many kids who grew up in the information age, they can type around 90 words per minute. This was mostly self-taught, I might add.
  • zenchild
    zenchild Posts: 680 Member
    When I took the SATs there was a little bit at the end where you had to copy, in cursive, a little blurb about how you'd been completely honest and hadn't cheated and then you had to sign your name, also in cursive. There was a guy in the classroom who had been homeschooled and didn't know how to write in cursive. The teacher had to stay after to help him write out a paragraph that took the rest of us 5 minutes.
    In college, there are both written tests for class and placement exams. These are all handwritten. Study after study has shown that a neatly written paper will be graded higher than a sloppy one.
    Even if all that is eventually replaced by computer exams, an occasional handwritten note is still necessary. Several times today I've had to jot a question or remark on and invoice and hand it to someone else. They have to be able to read what I write.
  • frootcat
    frootcat Posts: 194 Member
    I find all the comments that 'signatures are cursive' odd. Signatures are ... the way you sign your name or signify yourself. There are no rules.

    That said, my daughter didn't learn it in school but wanted to know how, so we printed some worksheets off the internet and she's good to go. I remember we wasted a ridiculous amount of time on it in school, so I had no issue with it being skipped. They also still had all the print/cursive letters up around the classroom so the kids would be familiar with what they looked like; it isn't like cursive is hieroglyphs to them or anything.
  • Blaqheart
    Blaqheart Posts: 235
    Instead of teaching printing start with cursive. It is very important because if you can't write it you cannot read it. Many of our beloved historical documents (The declaration Of Independence) are written in cursive. STOP dumbing down our children! We rank very low throughout the world on many subjects such as English, Literature, Math, Spelling, Reading, Grammar. Isn't it time we returned to top ranking? Start teaching your children now because once they reach adulthood they will need these skills for employment.

    I'm dyslexic too, but cursive writing is by far faster than printing. I say continue to teach the children cursive and eliminate the printing because they only print for a year at the most and will use cursive the rest of their lives - such as signatures and writing reports.
  • natvanessa
    natvanessa Posts: 230 Member
    I don't really have an opinion on if kids should learn it going forward, BUT I always write in cursive and probably always will. I prefer it, and I just think it's pretty! I hope people can continue to read my handwriting though :laugh:
  • snoopytwins
    snoopytwins Posts: 1,759 Member
    I will quit life if I see people in workplaces emailing things like "heyy did u get dat project dun dat i askd 4? lemme kno asap thx :)" just because they only learned "technological shorthand"

    Boo that. Language all the way.
    ^^^This...I can't figure out half of what people are saying when they text or FB like this!
  • _Thanatos_
    _Thanatos_ Posts: 166
    Closest thing to cursive I've written lately is my signature. And even that just isn't the same.
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    I think there's something *pleasurable* about cursive writing though. I don't think it's strictly 'necessary', but it's a lovely thing to be able to do. When I think about learning to write, I remember an almost sensual pleasure in using a good pen, and in the swoops and lines of the writing.

    In terms of writing skills per se, being able to 'join up' your writing does speed up writing performance. We may well find that kids that can't do cursive writing write more slowly - this will have implications for note taking and for exam writing.

    I don't think paper and pen writing will ever be entirely eclipsed by digital comms. I think there will always be cognitive functions that are better served by sitting down with a pen than using a virtual notepad.
  • JanetLM73
    JanetLM73 Posts: 1,226 Member
    My son has many learning issues and have problems with fine motor skills. He is 13 years old, they gave him a laptop at his school because he has an IEP in place. When we were going through all the testing they told me that they were not going to help too much with the cursive writing because everything is done on computers. He can type faster then alot of adults.

    I know the laptop in his case has kept him from falling behind his class.
  • sjtreely
    sjtreely Posts: 1,014 Member
    Full closure ... I haven't read the four pages of remarks.

    The whole not "teaching" cursive I think has been misunderstood. I'm from Indiana and my state also went through this discussion. Never was it intended to not teach cursive. We were always going to teach it. However, we weren't going to perfect it over the years after its initial instruction.

    I don't see how spending 20 minutes a day on a skill that is antiquated if of value. Yes, it needs to be taught. Perfected with repeated practice for 2-3 years? I don't see the need.
  • Sister_Someone
    Sister_Someone Posts: 567 Member
    I hardly ever write by hand anymore, but when I do, it's almost always cursive because it's quicker! My signature, on the other hand, has nothing to do with cursive. In fact, someone who doesn't happen to know my name would hardly know what it says.
  • roachhaley
    roachhaley Posts: 978 Member
    Huh? I write in cursive and know many people who do. We spent probably a max 3 weeks in third grade learning it, not really that much time "wasted"
  • sjtreely
    sjtreely Posts: 1,014 Member
    Huh? I write in cursive and know many people who do. We spent probably a max 3 weeks in third grade learning it, not really that much time "wasted"

    Yes, in third grade when it's typically taught for the first time. What I'm saying is why spend an hour a week or more in grades 4/5/6 to perfect the skill. However, I think if you go back and ask your teachers how much time was spent on the skill, their memories would be different than yours on the amount of time spent learning it.

    I applaud you if you write in cursive. Most don't. Rather they create their own style of part cursive/part manuscript. When I send a greeting card, I write in both. And in today's world, many revert to word processing for most things. I rarely write down a grocery list anymore. I text it to myself.
  • roachhaley
    roachhaley Posts: 978 Member
    An hour a week isn't that much time either. Most kids probably spend tons of time on leisure activities, I think one hour learning a (in my opinion) beautiful way of writing is only beneficial. Or is spongebob more important?
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    Fox news just had a segement about Cursive writing .. The discussion was about the consideration of REMOVING teaching cursive writing to our children ... On the premise that the way technology is now a days (texting , tablets , laptops etc) how often do our children actually sit down and write something long hand like that other than in school ... Is the time spent teaching them this skill wasted and better used elsewhere? Personally I feel that it is a skill that should remain.. There are plenty of times where a handwritten letter is FAR more appropriate than something formal and typed ...

    Thoughts ??

    Dude, they already aren't teaching this. I thought it was a dead issue. My kids have no idea how to write in cursive. They are 10 and 8. It is already not being taught.

    Way to be on top of the issue Fox News.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    My daughter's school has already stopped teaching it. Maybe she will never have a need to write it, but how will they learn to read it? There are still many things written in cursive.
  • DieVixen
    DieVixen Posts: 790 Member
    They already have where I live,my son is 16 and still does not know how
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    My daughter's school has already stopped teaching it. Maybe she will never have a need to write it, but how will they learn to read it? There are still many things written in cursive.

    If you think about it, only old people write that way now. So, it will just die. It's not a problem, I don't think. I don't think people handwritten anything anymore. Everything is electronic now in my world.
  • agbaeb
    agbaeb Posts: 179 Member
    We can stop teaching them math while we're at it since we have calculators and all that.

    For real. Our kids are becoming more and more stupid, because we're requiring less and less. We are slowing becoming one of the most lazy and stupid countries in the world!
  • TheDudette
    TheDudette Posts: 173 Member
    Well then... I guess I will never become the super successful author in death I dreamed of being in life because no one will be able to read my journals. Someone should start making a new Rosetta Stone.
  • LastSixtySix
    LastSixtySix Posts: 352 Member
    We can stop teaching them literature, too, since they already know how to read and, we all know, critical thinking is innate, we don't need to learn it. If they want to know how to think, they can just watch or listen to any number of shout-down newscasts.

    NOT!

    -Debra