Advice please...guys point of view as well
AwesomeMoJo
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I have been doing very well on my eating plan and thank you to all who have been helping to support me. Now, here is something thatcame up. I have gone one a couple (2) dates with a guy (who himself has lost 50lbs as well)..and he told me last night that he NEEDS to know if the sex is good before he has a relationship with anyone. I am not going to just give it up to a guy who says that sex is the most important thing. In a true relationship a person has to have communication (which we both do very well), trust, laughter, mutual respect....In my opinion, telling me he wants sex otherwise he will move on is pressuring me for that...
Now, if all he wants is sex...he can either find a regualr booty call who is as shallow as he is OR pay for it. If he truly wants a relationship, wouldn't he want to take at least a little time to get to know me better to see if we could have that friendship, fun, and mutual respect?? Keep in mind I am attracted to his guy...but I just don't want to make a huge mistake.
The reason I am asking here is because I trust you all. You have been helping me eat better, exercise, inspire and motivate me...but since I am an emotional eater, I felt the need to ask for advice and if I was crazy or he is being a jerk (or I could ponder about it while eating a package of oreo cookies....) I don't want to eat but this is taking over my brain and I think I am convincing myself that I am in the wrong when I am sure that I am not....
Now, if all he wants is sex...he can either find a regualr booty call who is as shallow as he is OR pay for it. If he truly wants a relationship, wouldn't he want to take at least a little time to get to know me better to see if we could have that friendship, fun, and mutual respect?? Keep in mind I am attracted to his guy...but I just don't want to make a huge mistake.
The reason I am asking here is because I trust you all. You have been helping me eat better, exercise, inspire and motivate me...but since I am an emotional eater, I felt the need to ask for advice and if I was crazy or he is being a jerk (or I could ponder about it while eating a package of oreo cookies....) I don't want to eat but this is taking over my brain and I think I am convincing myself that I am in the wrong when I am sure that I am not....
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He's being a jerk. Not only does it sound like sex is the only thing he wants from the relationship, it sounds like he is saying if the sex isn't good the first time he's not willing to work at making it good.
Good sex, like a good relationship, is give and take and sometimes takes a little time to know your partner's preferences.0 -
He's being a jerk. Not only does it sound like sex is the only thing he wants from the relationship, it sounds like he is saying if the sex isn't good the first time he's not willing to work at making it good.
Good sex, like a good relationship, is give and take and sometimes takes a little time to know your partner's preferences.
I so agree with this!! Well said!0 -
Aww sounds like a bit of a chancer (although I'm in a 'all men are evil' stage at the moment).
Fair play to him for being up front, perhaps he's had girls go for that in the past. If you're not happy with it walk away, who says he gets to call all the shots!0 -
He's being a jerk. Not only does it sound like sex is the only thing he wants from the relationship, it sounds like he is saying if the sex isn't good the first time he's not willing to work at making it good.
Good sex, like a good relationship, is give and take and sometimes takes a little time to know your partner's preferences.
I so agree with this!! Well said!
I agree too.0 -
In my experience, sex is good when two people know each other well and care about each other. Plenty of people are virgins when they get married and have satisfying sex lives.
If this is something that is important to this guy, though, there isn't anything you can do about that. You just need to decide if he's worth continuing on with.0 -
It's a **** move...and he wouldn't bring it up if his plan wasn't to pressure you into it0
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Lovely jojo,
It is an exam and you will be tested on 6 different positions akin to 6 questions. Time duration of test 3hrs. LOL!
OK jokes aside, if it comes naturally between you two, go for it but if it is objective decision-making for him after this test, don't do the test.0 -
Screw em. He's trying to be conditional, and at way too early of a time. If he had more respect for you as a person, he'd wait and give it some more time before making you feel pressured into something. You've only been on TWO dates, that's not a lot at all.0
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If he truly wants a relationship, wouldn't he want to take at least a little time to get to know me better to see if we could have that friendship, fun, and mutual respect??0
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i believe that he isnt sincere. whoever heard of bad sex. lol really though sex in a relationshio is a display of love and emotions with that special someone its not just about physical attraction but about connecting emotionally as well. tell him how you feel and see how he responds. if he leaves it wasnt meant to be.0
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ok its nice to have someone being upfront but he was out of line I feel for a second date! its par for the course if two people are attracted to each other and have mutual affection etc for each other then the sex is always going to be great...if not the first time then the (many) times after that! seems like he was hoping you'd be up for it right away! be cautious0
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Guys want sex. From the first date a guy goes on he's thinking about sex, before that even. However, to tell someone on the second date that you need to see if the sex is good before moving forward is in poor taste and in my opinion means that you've already decided the only thing you want out of the relationship is sex. Most people these days want to know if the sex is good in a relationship but if you are considering someone as a possible long-term relationship I wouldn't see telling them that on the second date. Sounds like it's his way of saying he wants to have sex or he's not going to waste his time.
With that said, it also depends on the overall tone of the conversation when this happened. Had the discussion playfully turned to sex? Was him making this comment in response to a question about the importance of sex? Or did he just throw it out there like, "Hey, this is something you need to know now."? Context can make a huge difference in how to take what he said.0 -
Im sorry but it seems to me like hes being a jerk. Having sex just to have sex is just that, its just sex but when you have a emotional connection with the person it means so much more and becomes making love. So if hes not willing to put the time in then hes not for you.0
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Wow he sounds either a) shallow or b) desperate...ask yourself if that's really what you're looking for...A good man will get to know you and establish a relationship first, you can always work on the sex afterwards. It's not like if it's not so great the first time it will continue to be not so great.0
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My heart calculatin'
My true love will be waitin'
Be waiting at the end of my ride
Move 'em on, head' em up
Head 'em up, move' em on
Move 'em on, head' em up
Rawhide
I'd just sorta move on.0 -
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What a douche! RUN RUN!
Men who like you for you will wait for sex. Trust me. Now, they probably won't wait until marriage, but they will wait until you are ready. Which should be a great time than 2 dates, IMO.0 -
I would pass him a bottle of lotion and say "Get to it and then you tell me if it was good cause that's all the sexin you gonna be gettin"0
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I think it's awesome he said that upfront. cuz you know what you're dealing with. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck....He's out. whatever the play, it's terrible. I second the rawhide song....0
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Ask him what he actually thinks is important in a relationship.... I bet sex is in the top 2 things and comes before friendship and respect............. Only you can make the decision but I'll be honest he sounds like he is only interested in getting his rocks off rather than getting to know the person that you actually are.0
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He's a jerkoff! Get rid of him and find someone better.0
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Its sweet to see when a couple gets to the big milestones.. the first Kiss, the first full moon together, the first massive warning sign that this guy is a moron.
RUN AWAY, dont walk.
If he is willing to show you disrespect like this early on in the relationship, what will happen 2 years down the road.0 -
The answer must be no! This is a most unattractive quality in this man & should cancel out any attraction that you have for him. You are worth more than that! Wait for someone who will treat you as you deserve to be treated!0
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Would you want to give yourself to someone like that? This is not what men do, it's what a boy does.0
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He's being a jerk. If a guy thinks you're worth it he'll wait. He will.
If you had a daughter what advice would you give her in this situation? Would it be to stay with the guy and give it up to a guy who's pressuring her before she's ready? I wouldn't think so.0 -
Guys want sex. From the first date a guy goes on he's thinking about sex, before that even. However, to tell someone on the second date that you need to see if the sex is good before moving forward is in poor taste and in my opinion means that you've already decided the only thing you want out of the relationship is sex. Most people these days want to know if the sex is good in a relationship but if you are considering someone as a possible long-term relationship I wouldn't see telling them that on the second date. Sounds like it's his way of saying he wants to have sex or he's not going to waste his time.
With that said, it also depends on the overall tone of the conversation when this happened. Had the discussion playfully turned to sex? Was him making this comment in response to a question about the importance of sex? Or did he just throw it out there like, "Hey, this is something you need to know now."? Context can make a huge difference in how to take what he said.
Girls want sex too BUT generally with a person they connect with on several levels. It was something he came out and said that I needed to know. I looked at him like he was crazy and thought he was kidding at first. But after I told him I am not jumping into bed with him...he said that he wasn't joking.
There is chemistry between us (I should say WAS)..that flame died some after that conversation. I told him last night if all he wants is sex go find it elsewhere... I want the WHOLE package...
I also told him good luck finding a quality woman who will just give it up to him that quickly and plan on sticking around...odds are it would be one and done for her (or probably even for him since he would get what he wants)....
I like to think of myself as a rational, intelligent individual but for some reason this was grating on me..so THANK you to everyone for letting me know I am not in the minority. The one refershing thing about this guy was his being so up front about it...it definitely saved me a lot of time and maybe heartache....0 -
Here is my view on relationships. Without good sex, I am GONE!
That's number one.
Most guys may not be this frank as our society has so feminized men. Now, I really don't know your situation, but you must decide for yourself about this guy, I think he is misguided. What kind of guy says this as a demand?
I don't like it.
Sex is good between 2 people who care and love each other. Don't give in.
And answer for yourself: Is this what you want from him?
Best of luck :flowerforyou:0 -
I say at lease he's being honest with you and letting you know where he at. Now you have a choice either to give in or keep doing you and take all the time you need. That's one of the things that you have to give him credit for is he's honest. so many women and men say after the fact that if they would have known they would have did something different .... Here is your chance!!!!
Ps. Sex should be something that you are clear and up front about. Yes it does take time sometimes to get it right. But if your needs are not met or your being something your not. It won't last long anyways0 -
upfront and honest = good................ that blunt after 2 dates = thinking he is the sort of man with 2 heads and enough blood to run only one at a time.... and he is using the lower one when he is talking to you rather than getting to know the real you0
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