Now they are going to ban free refills on drinks?
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I see how school has changed, and the lack of physical education. At my son's school they stopped having mandatory physical exercise, so bigger (fatass) kids don't feel left out. Things like this.
Why should fatass kids be made to feel left out?
JUST KIDDING! Lol
Seriously? That's ridiculous. Physical education should be mandatory...I was appalled at how little had to be done when I was in school...but making it completely optional is awful.0 -
Well, obviously the government has to step in somewhere because people have shown (in general) they can't NOT purchase the biggest thing on the menu.. THEN they not only have no self control but when said purchase has negative effects on their health, they turn to suing the companies that sold it to them, instead of taking responsibility themselves.
I tell you, it was all over when the woman at mcdonalds sued mcdonalds for serving her hot coffee. REALLY?!?!
Now we have people suing fast food companies because it made them fat. Apparently there is a need for SOME type of force to come down and take control because the average overweight consumer is going to blame someone else.
I agree! Stop the frivolous lawsuits! How about that, and holding the individual accountable for their own actions. That seems like the bigger problem to me. And you can thank Government for that problem as far as I'm concerned. If they are going to dictate like a parent to a willfull child, and encourage people to believe everyone else is responsible for their bad choices so they need the government to decide what's right and proper for them. And allowing that women (and others like her) to pass her own stupidity off on others and get rewarded for it is ridiculous! If they gave her lukewarm coffee she would probably have sued for that, or the ruined clothing. What ignoramous puts hot coffee near their privates while driving?
You have obviously never read this case...0 -
I see how school has changed, and the lack of physical education. At my son's school they stopped having mandatory physical exercise, so bigger (fatass) kids don't feel left out. Things like this.
Why should fatass kids be made to feel left out?
JUST KIDDING! Lol
Seriously? That's ridiculous. Physical education should be mandatory...I was appalled at how little had to be done when I was in school...but making it completely optional is awful.
What I cant stand over that, is that fact that his school does not give "First place" awards for ANYTHING anymore. regardless of the grades, or how hard a kid works, they all get the SAME EFFIN GRADE.
Thank god I teach my kid differently at home. Its crazy.0 -
Why are we getting fatter as a nation??
When we got two worker households, we seem to have sold our food culture out to big business. There goal is to make money, not make us healthy. So, we get tons of cheap empty calories that make people want to come back for more.
Look at newbie's diaries on here and the stuff people eat that they think is food just amazes me. Every snack comes from a package. Most meals come from a package. M&Ms and Doritos are not food.
Now here's my arguement against govt. intervention and that's the farm bill. That soda would not be free if the corn used to produce it were actually being sold at market rates.0 -
I see how school has changed, and the lack of physical education. At my son's school they stopped having mandatory physical exercise, so bigger (fatass) kids don't feel left out. Things like this.
Why should fatass kids be made to feel left out?
JUST KIDDING! Lol
Seriously? That's ridiculous. Physical education should be mandatory...I was appalled at how little had to be done when I was in school...but making it completely optional is awful.
What I cant stand over that, is that fact that his school does not give "First place" awards for ANYTHING anymore. regardless of the grades, or how hard a kid works, they all get the SAME EFFIN GRADE.
Thank god I teach my kid differently at home. Its crazy.
That's just stupid.0 -
Why are we getting fatter as a nation??
When we got two worker households, we seem to have sold our food culture out to big business. There goal is to make money, not make us healthy. So, we get tons of cheap empty calories that make people want to come back for more.
Look at newbie's diaries on here and the stuff people eat that they think is food just amazes me. Every snack comes from a package. Most meals come from a package. M&Ms and Doritos are not food.
Now here's my arguement against govt. intervention and that's the farm bill. That soda would not be free if the corn used to produce it were actually being sold at market rates.
Agreed! Thats a way to cut down on Soda drinking. If they truly wanted to "help the obesity epidemic", cut that damn subsidies for Corn...its ridiculous. Let the free market determine the cost of corn without government intervention.
Another way Government itself contributes to the Obesity epidemic. Everyone is so focused on the dog and pony show, they fail to see the real reason behind certain things.0 -
Why are we getting fatter as a nation??
When we got two worker households, we seem to have sold our food culture out to big business. There goal is to make money, not make us healthy. So, we get tons of cheap empty calories that make people want to come back for more.
Look at newbie's diaries on here and the stuff people eat that they think is food just amazes me. Every snack comes from a package. Most meals come from a package. M&Ms and Doritos are not food.
Now here's my arguement against govt. intervention and that's the farm bill. That soda would not be free if the corn used to produce it were actually being sold at market rates.
Agreed! Thats a way to cut down on Soda drinking. If they truly wanted to "help the obesity epidemic", cut that damn subsidies for Corn...its ridiculous. Let the free market determine the cost of corn without government intervention.
Another way Government itself contributes to the Obesity epidemic. Everyone is so focused on the dog and pony show, they fail to see the real reason behind certain things.
I think the corn subsidy is ridiculous, but we can't start using local, state, and federal government interchangeably. It's not in the city's power to do anything about it0 -
Why are we getting fatter as a nation??
When we got two worker households, we seem to have sold our food culture out to big business. There goal is to make money, not make us healthy. So, we get tons of cheap empty calories that make people want to come back for more.
Look at newbie's diaries on here and the stuff people eat that they think is food just amazes me. Every snack comes from a package. Most meals come from a package. M&Ms and Doritos are not food.
Now here's my arguement against govt. intervention and that's the farm bill. That soda would not be free if the corn used to produce it were actually being sold at market rates.
Agreed! Thats a way to cut down on Soda drinking. If they truly wanted to "help the obesity epidemic", cut that damn subsidies for Corn...its ridiculous. Let the free market determine the cost of corn without government intervention.
Another way Government itself contributes to the Obesity epidemic. Everyone is so focused on the dog and pony show, they fail to see the real reason behind certain things.
I think the corn subsidy is ridiculous, but we can't start using local, state, and federal government interchangeably. It's not in the city's power to do anything about it
Very very true, was just making a broad generalization and should not have.0 -
All of those out there who say what you eat is just a personal choice, do you not realize the big picture impacts of obesity or do you just think personal freedom is more important than the overall cost to society?0
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All of those out there who say what you eat is just a personal choice, do you not realize the big picture impacts of obesity or do you just think personal freedom is more important than the overall cost to society?
I think there needs to be a balance. My opinion would be completely different if we were talking about them banning soda completely. But making restaurants charge for refills is no different imo than requiring them to post calorie counts. It's done with the intent to help our obesity rate.
And while I agree with those who have said this won't make a dent...you're right...but it's a start.0 -
Even my 14 year old gets it. She asked what I'm arguing about now... and I said that there's a state that wants to ban free refills on soda pop. She asked why. I said because soda pop makes people fat. She said, "no; people's choices make them fat..."
If a 14 year old can get it, why can't adults??
My compliments to your 14 year old. She's very astute.0 -
The government? This is a city government proposal, its not like the feds or even the state have anything to do with this. And while I think this is a really goofy idea, I think its even goofier to take this to the extreme on the other end. Or no wait, lets just pretend that some mayor of some town most of us will never visit is the kick off place of communism in the US. Cause I am pretty sure free refills were way up there in communist manifesto.0
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Even my 14 year old gets it. She asked what I'm arguing about now... and I said that there's a state that wants to ban free refills on soda pop. She asked why. I said because soda pop makes people fat. She said, "no; people's choices make them fat..."
If a 14 year old can get it, why can't adults??
My compliments to your 14 year old. She's very astute.
Which state wants to ban it? lol There is no state that wants to ban this. There is a mayor who is proposing it.
Is it really too much for people to care about details and facts?0 -
All of those out there who say what you eat is just a personal choice, do you not realize the big picture impacts of obesity or do you just think personal freedom is more important than the overall cost to society?
Yes it is more important. Personal freedom and liberty is the foundation of this country. However, government has taking the responsibility and accountability out of the equation because its the PC thing to do.0 -
The government? This is a city government proposal, its not like the feds or even the state have anything to do with this. And while I think this is a really goofy idea, I think its even goofier to take this to the extreme on the other end. Or no wait, lets just pretend that some mayor of some town most of us will never visit is the kick off place of communism in the US. Cause I am pretty sure free refills were way up there in communist manifesto.
I mean ya, its not like the mayor of one of the most populated cities in the country passed a ban on sodas of a certain size or anything.0 -
I RARELY drink soda, so im not too worried, but if i did, id f*ckin' flip a table in anger!!!0
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A better idea is actually a price cap on soda. Max price is 25 cents so free refills could no longer be built into the price
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I'm running for mayor.0 -
All of those out there who say what you eat is just a personal choice, do you not realize the big picture impacts of obesity or do you just think personal freedom is more important than the overall cost to society?
Yes it is more important. Personal freedom and liberty is the foundation of this country. However, government has taking the responsibility and accountability out of the equation because its the PC thing to do.
So then we really just have a diffence of where the line in the sand is drawn.0 -
The government? This is a city government proposal, its not like the feds or even the state have anything to do with this. And while I think this is a really goofy idea, I think its even goofier to take this to the extreme on the other end. Or no wait, lets just pretend that some mayor of some town most of us will never visit is the kick off place of communism in the US. Cause I am pretty sure free refills were way up there in communist manifesto.
I mean ya, its not like the mayor of one of the most populated cities in the country passed a ban on sodas of a certain size or anything.
Except for the ban has not gone through and its still just a proposal and will more than likely have people challenge the ban if the health department did pass it. Its not a done deal, no one passed anything yet. So ya, okay.0 -
OMg, you poor poor soul. What will you ever have to do!
They dont give free refills on alcohol...suck it up buttercup0 -
Every time I hear a stupid idea like this, I am reminded to always vote Republican.
Amen.0 -
:grumble: Hmmm this ban has Michelle Obama written all over it
It's a proposal in it's infancy stage from the mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts. It is not a ban nor has anything to do with Michelle Obama of all people O.O There can be legitimate criticisms of initiatives like these but come on now, that's reaching pretty far.
That's not reaching pretty far to think of her. I did too until I read it. She has already banned McDonald's from giving out caramel for the apples. Heaven forbid kids should have caramel to dip their apples in!0 -
The government? This is a city government proposal, its not like the feds or even the state have anything to do with this. And while I think this is a really goofy idea, I think its even goofier to take this to the extreme on the other end. Or no wait, lets just pretend that some mayor of some town most of us will never visit is the kick off place of communism in the US. Cause I am pretty sure free refills were way up there in communist manifesto.
I mean ya, its not like the mayor of one of the most populated cities in the country passed a ban on sodas of a certain size or anything.
First you limit; later you ration.0 -
:grumble: Hmmm this ban has Michelle Obama written all over it
It's a proposal in it's infancy stage from the mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts. It is not a ban nor has anything to do with Michelle Obama of all people O.O There can be legitimate criticisms of initiatives like these but come on now, that's reaching pretty far.
That's not reaching pretty far to think of her. I did too until I read it. She has already banned McDonald's from giving out caramel for the apples. Heaven forbid kids should have caramel to dip their apples in!
Uhhh, how did Michelle Obama ban McDonalds from giving out caramel for apples? She doesn't have the authority to do that.0 -
Telling us what/how much we can drink is just one tiny step toward our country becoming a communist nation....
My thoughts EXACTLY!!! What will this nation be likewhen our kids and grandkids are our age!?!?0 -
Everyone is getting upset over something being taken away from them that they can already have in the first place. All you have to do is pay for it. Why does it have to be free?
Wow....I think that you just described what's known as a "WELFARE" mentality.0 -
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:grumble: Hmmm this ban has Michelle Obama written all over it
It's a proposal in it's infancy stage from the mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts. It is not a ban nor has anything to do with Michelle Obama of all people O.O There can be legitimate criticisms of initiatives like these but come on now, that's reaching pretty far.
That's not reaching pretty far to think of her. I did too until I read it. She has already banned McDonald's from giving out caramel for the apples. Heaven forbid kids should have caramel to dip their apples in!
Do you know what your talking about?? McD's did this and she applauded them for it. Why do kids need caramel sauce for apples. You realize this is a site for encouraging health and fitness, not consuming junk calories.
You just don't like the Obamas. We get it.0 -
when did Mcdonalds ever offer caramel with their apples? Thats just stupid, why turn a healthy option into the same level of sugar as an ice cream. Anyone thats complaining about that being removed is health doomed, no matter who decided to have it removed.
On another point, why are people on a health and weightloss/fitness website complaining what mcdonalds do..0
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