PEOPLE...EAT!!!
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you can't fix stupid0
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Lately, eating has not been a problem for me...
I mostly get dizzy because I have cardiomyopathy...0 -
It's true. In reality, if you're doing that, then this site is of little use to you. You might as well just call it what it is - a crash diet. That said, sometimes I do eat less than my limit, but that's because I've found that when I exercise, I have less of an appetite.
Strangely, my running/walking is an appetite suppressant to me too!!! And I LOVE to eat! When I don't run/walk, I am always hungrier!!0 -
Everyone has a BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate. This is the number of calories your body needs to function and be inactive-think digestion, blood flow and organ functions. Once you add in activity of any kind,you have to consume more to offset that activity. Now, if you eat below your BMR ( which for most women is 1500 cals per day) your body goes into starvation mode. Your body begins to store fat as fuel and burn lean muscle mass, this muscle mass comes from your heart, liver, lungs and brain. When your body exhausts those stores, it will then move onto the fat stores.
Have you ever seen Survivor or The Biggest Loser? Oddly, they've all lost their fat at the end, not their brains, hearts, livers, lungs or structural muscle.
Sounds like a rough road to me. Diet, diet, diet...work out like crazy. Go home, start eating, not work out for hours a day and gain weight back. I realize that not all of them gained weight. I also realize the "but they gained muscle" argument will come into play. The fact remains though. The Biggest Loser and shows like are a temporary fix, a crash diet.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40423712/ns/today-entertainment/t/biggest-loser-where-are-they-now/#.T-YADrUV12A0 -
All of that is right around 1200 calories, give or take. Subtract the usual 400+ calories I burn doing cardio and weight lifting, then I have a good deficit going on. On the rare occasion I'm still hungry, I'll eat a few calories back in healthy nuts or something with protein. Other than that, it's how I maintain my slow 1-2 lbs of weight loss a week.
There is so much more to losing weight than eating less calories... There is sleeping, less stressing, finding your bliss, eating less, exercising more and removing inflammatory foods from your diet among a whole host of other things. My journey started with wanting to lose weight to look good and is ending with finding my bliss, my happiness, and creating a life for myself that is centered on a healthy life and healthy attitude. This has rubbed off on my husband and he's now eating healthier and in doing so has lost 22 lbs. My daughter is taking less ADHD medication because she's eating healthier foods. It's a cycle of healthiness I hope we will always continue!
So, if you eat around 1200, and burn 400 or more calories, your net total for the day is less than 800...this is exactly what the OP is talking about...
Also, to the OP...I began a thread like this, a couple months ago, and it turned into a mad house, and eventually was deleted by the moderators...just a heads up...0 -
i eat under 1200 almost every day walk 5 miles almost every morning not to mention a job where i walk , lift . climb ladders for 8-10 hrs a day not to mention swim when i can at least 3 days aweek and i have lost 20 lbs have the energy level of a 2 yr old and now find that i need way less sleep than before
2 year olds don't have a lot of energy. They take lots of naps and cannot do anything with good endurance. And they are super cranky when they don't get enough sleep.
Just sayin....
Bwahhhhh!! I have no real opinion on the original topic...just thought this was too funny
Have a sense of humor...it helps find inner happiness no matter what you eat or don't eat. 0 -
Does anyone rememeber a certain famous woman from the 70s, she exercised and dieted her self to death, eating less and less, of course had annorexia but thats how it starts, Im a totally believe in the fact that when you eat morw your body wants more, hense why big people consume alot, And when you cut it and cut it, then your body gets used to that too and you want less and less. But I think what people are saying about eating `1200 per day and then exercising 600 or more off, only leaves your body with 600 cals to make your brain and vital organs work. It is slow starvation but you just dont it, but i guess one day it will hit. My mother has learned to eat less and less over the last few years and she loses weight at the drop of a hat, as she only eats one meal a day. If you want to eat 1200 dont exercise, and then at least your body has enough fuel to live.0
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I personally would rather do this slower and paying closer attention to nutrition.
I eat about 1200 calories a day and I have been here a little over a month and lost 6 pounds. I wouldn't say that's a particularly fast weight loss. First weigh in I dropped 5 pounds (2 weeks)....second weigh in (one week), nothing....third weigh in (one week), one pound. I feel good, lighter, energetic....my doctor took me off metformin (YAY) and I am very pleased. I dont expect this to happen overnight...I have it planned to take about a year. I pay a LOT attention to nutrition. I read every label of every food I buy, keep my carbs low ( because I have T2) and my protein high (to feel satisfied). It works for me. May not work for everyone, but, then, I am not everyone. 0 -
EHhh, not everyone is the same. I do agree that netting zero is dangerous. But to net 1000-1200 isnt terrible for everyone. I eat 1200 cal a day and i dont feel tired, sick, run down, nothing. I have lots of energy actually. And im not on a "crash diet". I hit all of my macros. I just make sure to always (or as close to always as possible) eat things that are good for me. I very very rarely eat empty calories. I think the extra 100 lbs i had was more dangerous than netting below 1200. I do very much agree, however, that if one feels tired or weak then you absolutely should increase your intake. I just dont think its as easy as giving a blanket statement for everyone.
And, just wanted to add that my 2 year old very rarely naps, only sleeps 9-10 hrs at night and is full of energy throughout the day
Maybe i'm unlucky LOL. 0 -
All of that is right around 1200 calories, give or take. Subtract the usual 400+ calories I burn doing cardio and weight lifting, then I have a good deficit going on.
Makes it very clear to me that you have no clue how calories work and that you don't realize the detriment you are doing to your body. The 1200 calorie goal is already an EXTREME deficit from the amount you should be eating to maintain. To add even more deficit on top of that is starvation. Have fun when you gain all your weight back. I hope you seriously consider looking into what you are doing to your body with an unbiased view before you seriously damage your health.
So you have no idea this person's size and yet you know that 1200 is an EXTREME deficit for her? Not to mention, she's not trying to MAINTAIN, she's trying to lose.
I have never run across a forum with so much misinformation.
It doesn't matter what her height is, maintenance level even for someone 5'0 to 6'0 as a woman is never less than ~1850, so even subtracting 500 from that she shouldn't eat less than 1350, and that's if she's 5'0 or less. If she's wtihin 15 lbs of her goal weight she shouldn't be eating more than a 250 cal deficit and that puts her at 1600. It's literally based on science, try reading a few scientific papers on nutrition before you start calling it misinformation.0 -
Everyone has a BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate. This is the number of calories your body needs to function and be inactive-think digestion, blood flow and organ functions. Once you add in activity of any kind,you have to consume more to offset that activity. Now, if you eat below your BMR ( which for most women is 1500 cals per day) your body goes into starvation mode. Your body begins to store fat as fuel and burn lean muscle mass, this muscle mass comes from your heart, liver, lungs and brain. When your body exhausts those stores, it will then move onto the fat stores.
Have you ever seen Survivor or The Biggest Loser? Oddly, they've all lost their fat at the end, not their brains, hearts, livers, lungs or structural muscle.
I have to say, you have no idea whether or not they lost some of their organ function or muscle mass. They don't talk about that kind of thing on the show. They never mention whether they lost bone density or critical thinking skills or anything. Also those are extreme examples, they're really not a good source of information for this type of discussion.0 -
All of that is right around 1200 calories, give or take. Subtract the usual 400+ calories I burn doing cardio and weight lifting, then I have a good deficit going on.
Makes it very clear to me that you have no clue how calories work and that you don't realize the detriment you are doing to your body. The 1200 calorie goal is already an EXTREME deficit from the amount you should be eating to maintain. To add even more deficit on top of that is starvation. Have fun when you gain all your weight back. I hope you seriously consider looking into what you are doing to your body with an unbiased view before you seriously damage your health.
So you have no idea this person's size and yet you know that 1200 is an EXTREME deficit for her? Not to mention, she's not trying to MAINTAIN, she's trying to lose.
I have never run across a forum with so much misinformation.
It doesn't matter what her height is, maintenance level even for someone 5'0 to 6'0 as a woman is never less than ~1850, so even subtracting 500 from that she shouldn't eat less than 1350, and that's if she's 5'0 or less. If she's wtihin 15 lbs of her goal weight she shouldn't be eating more than a 250 cal deficit and that puts her at 1600. It's literally based on science, try reading a few scientific papers on nutrition before you start calling it misinformation.
I have two masters degrees and work in academia. And I'm done here. I give up.0 -
I have two masters degrees and work in academia. And I'm done here. I give up.
Unless one of your masters degrees is in dietetics, then how is that relevant?0 -
What health issues are there at 1200/day? Not forum myths, actual documented health issues? There is a lot of support for low calorie diets being very good for you. They're linked to increased longevity.
THIS ^^^^When you go to maintenance you eat at a maintenance level. Why would that be hard? Your metabolism isn't harmed, which is why pretty much every respected diet plan allows people to eat at that level. You burn a little less while at a deficit but it's slight and temporary. You lose some lean body mass but it's unavoidable with weight loss and you can build it back.0 -
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I have a really difficult time eating enough calories per day. I am quite active: a usual days exercise for me is 90 minutes of walking, 30 minutes of calisthenics, and at least 60 minutes of vigorous drumming, which, generally, will have helped me burned 1000 calories. I also try and eat very healthy. Some days my net total is actually in the negatives because I just can't eat enough to balance it out. I'm not really sure what I should be doing differently as my exercise plan is not exhausting me in any way . Maybe adding more good fats into my diet would help.0
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I have two masters degrees and work in academia. And I'm done here. I give up.
Unless one of your masters degrees is in dietetics, then how is that relevant?
It's relevant because he/she is clearly being accused of just "not understanding" the "science" behind the argument. Not a likely scenario if they really have multiple advanced degrees in any quantitative fields.0 -
You are not me, I am not you, what's good and right and works for me will probably not work for you. Just because I am right now this moment in time not eating over 1000 calories a day does NOT mean I will ever develope an ED and for anyone to assume that is purely nuts. You do not know me, you just see what I eat right now, this moment in time. I don't think a particular poster was talking to me in particular but I've had people tell me that, and it's irritating because they don't know my mind, they don't know what I'm thinking and when people assume you know it's plain silly. Let me tell you that I do not have an ED, I will never have an ED. I don't ever want to be skin and bones, I don't aspire to be 50 lbs, I highly doubt I'll ever go under 200 lbs. But I don't have a set goal yet but I'll know it when I reach it. It's okay to worry about others, but it's not okay to try and force them to believe the way you believe or force your will upon them. Each and every one of us here are here for the same reason...support, not criticism. Some of you need to learn how to show your concern without coming off as a know it all. I had a friend come to me and say you know I'm just concerned about you and want to make sure your getting every thing you need in your diet, I appreciated her more than she will ever know, just because it came off as true concern and not I know better than you what's better for you.0
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I haven't read any of the replies but OP....I love you.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!0
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i eat under 1200 almost every day walk 5 miles almost every morning not to mention a job where i walk , lift . climb ladders for 8-10 hrs a day not to mention swim when i can at least 3 days aweek and i have lost 20 lbs have the energy level of a 2 yr old and now find that i need way less sleep than before
You will either burn out, get injured from not feeding your body enough to repair the muscles that are being used all day, or you will gain it all back. Not trying to be mean or spiteful....i've been there done that. SEVERAL times. It took me 8 months to lose 37lbs and I fit into clothes that previously I only wore after starving myself then gaining it back. Slow and steady wins this race.
This isn't necessarily true. I know a lot of MFP members want to believe that everyone is exactly the same and must do exactly the same things to lose weight. But that simply isn't true. Not everyone of the same size needs the same amount of calories.
thank you for responding to this; I really just get sick of the haters who think if you don't do it my way you're doing it wrong and it's somehow unhealthy or dangerous. There is no one size fits all solution to diet or exercise or the diet industry wouldn't be a multi billion dollar one where people seem to get fatter every year anyway. Not everyone is weak or faint because of eating too little, sometimes it could he the freaking heat... HELLO it's 105 here and it's going to get hotter before the summer is over. Could lack of fuel be the problem? Maybe, but it's way better to make a suggestion based on your experience than to judge since you're not in their shoes and even reading a food diary if available doesn't tell the whole story.
EXACTLY! I eat less than 1200 calories..work out HARD every day, have more energy than I've every had and feel wonderful! I've been doing this for 4 years now..everyone is different!0 -
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I also find it too bad that I can't find a single thread that doesn't eventually become some version of "oh hello somebody, you're wrong because blahblah" and then the people just sort of fall by the wayside and wank at each other in mean ways and don't address the original poster's concerns. I find it most unhelpful when sometimes people here have genuine questions or concerns and are looking for support, and others just shoot at each other around them--*shrug*.0
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The fact is if you want to lose weight you have to eat exactly 1437 calories a day and do 34.6 minutes of cardio. Any more or less will not work at all, and you will turn into a giant slug. Also, for advanced weight loss you must dress as a nun and hum the theme to S.W.A.T. at least 3 hours a week.0
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I've actually increased my calories in the last month or so because a) I stopped counting b) I'm training for a half marathon and c) I've been lifting. Since doing so, I've had better luck building and maintaining muscle, and my weight has been sitting between 125-130, which I'm happy with. I eat between about 1400-1700 calories most days, more on my long run days (or the day after, depending on how I'm feeling). I have probably put on a couple pounds (though I should still be under 130) but that's mostly because it's hard to lose weight doing distance running, and I've been a little slack on my eating the last couple weeks. Your body needs fuel though.0
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I have to eat 4,000 calories some days... Some days, I don't eat more than 1600. 1600 calories to a guy like me is like 800 to a person half my size. I wouldn't do that every day, but, for some, 1200 calories might be the only way. If you lead a very sedentary life, it's the bare minimum you can eat (so science says).
I think all our original poster was trying to say, if you are showing signs of under eating, you're probably under eating.
I think the only thing that is the same for every person on here trying to lose or even gain weight is that you have to keep changing it up. Doing the same thing and eating the same thing every day isn't going to do it. Avoiding homostasis (a plateau) is the key to weight loss and the only way to avoid that is variety.
Me? I've been trying to reach or go over my goal this week. I've taken a total, 100%, break from exercise. I weighed 252 on Monday morning and weighed 247 today. I had been stuck in the low 250's for a while and this little change has shifted my metabolism to burning fat and not building muscle.
Please, keep chugging and taking care of yourselves people. We are all on here to lead healthy lives and get support. Although sometimes it may be misdirected, people do try and give support because we all want eachother to succeed.
Journey well all.0 -
The fact is if you want to lose weight you have to eat exactly 1437 calories a day and do 34.6 minutes of cardio. Any more or less will not work at all, and you will turn into a giant slug. Also, for advanced weight loss you must dress as a nun and hum the theme to S.W.A.T. at least 3 hours a week.
LMFAO I'm kinda sad now cause I'm NOT dressing as a nun and huming anything lol0 -
It seams like every post I've ready today about someone being dizzy, not feeling good, not losing weight, not having energy, etc is because they are eating less than 1,200 net calories. If your goal is 1,300 calories (which I would die on by the way) and you burn 700 calories through exercise that means you really only at 600 calories for the day! Your body can not function on that!
THANK YOU! I get so frustrated seeing people do this to themselves! I may not be losing weight as fast as someone who eats 1,000 calories/day, but I feel WAY better and I know that my weight will STAY OFF in the long run because I plan on eating like this for the rest of my life. Here's to you for being the one to finally say something! :drinker:0 -
It seams like every post I've ready today about someone being dizzy, not feeling good, not losing weight, not having energy, etc is because they are eating less than 1,200 net calories. If your goal is 1,300 calories (which I would die on by the way) and you burn 700 calories through exercise that means you really only at 600 calories for the day! Your body can not function on that!
THANK YOU! I get so frustrated seeing people do this to themselves! I may not be losing weight as fast as someone who eats 1,000 calories/day, but I feel WAY better and I know that my weight will STAY OFF in the long run because I plan on eating like this for the rest of my life. Here's to you for being the one to finally say something! :drinker:
Sorry to disappoint you but I function just fine on that. You may not, others may not, but others may. I also don't plan to eat this low forever, I will move things up when I feel the need, but not yet, I'm not ready to do it yet.0 -
I feel dizzy and weak when it's hot no matter what I eat. In fact, I think that's why I tend to overeat this time of year. I'm trying to make those feelings go away. Allergies, I gots em.
Right now I am netting less than 1200. If I get dizzy and weak, I am going to up them. But at the moment this low carb, low calorie thing has me feeling pretty frisky compared to how I usually feel this time of year. I even went to a movie last night, wandered around WalMart (big deal since I'm a social phobe), then went for a run when I got home. Then I was awake for hours and couldn't sleep.
I figure my body has decided that I must have energy to hunt and gather. So I will use that energy to workout and be more outgoing. Thanks, body! More low cal, low carb days for you!0
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