Why nothing makes sense. Ever. And it never will.

half_moon

After two weeks on the boards, this is some random crap I've read, wherein I have determined that absolutely nobody knows what they are talking about. (All of the below have been stated with great authority and articles and research to back it up, by the way.)

-Eat more fruits and veggies.
-The sugar in fruit will make you fat.
-Cardio will melt the pounds off.
-Cardio burns muscle, not fat, and you will remain fat and weak.
-Don't eat back all of your exercise calories
-Eat back all of them, or you are in starvation mode.
-Starvation mode isn't real.
-Starvation mode is real, only for those with >5% body fat.
-It doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you stay within your calorie goal.
-Eat "cleanly", or you won't lose weight.
-Cardio made me gain 40 pounds and created thyroid problems.
-Cardio took me from a size 10203 to a size 2 in one year.
-You have to do weight training, or you won't be burning fat.
-Weight training only builds muscle; it does not burn fat.
-You must do both, or you won't go anywhere.
-I eat whatever I want! I am so skinny!
-I eat a very strict diet filled with green stuff and don't even walk into a proximity of fat foods. I am a sexy beast.


What have I determined? Either you are all out of your minds, or everybody is different and there is NO reason to listen to anything anybody says until you've tried it and failed/succeeded yourself. So my suggestion is that we delete all forum threads and just leave the "success stories" and the "motivation" thread. (I kid, but. No. Wait. Seriously.)

sweebum

There's a few people I listen to regarding diet and exercise on these boards who know their stuff:
Stroutman81, taso42, Helloitisdan, Pu_239

On the net: Leigh Peele (her podcasts are great as is her paid members forum), Lyle McDonald (20+ years) and the Martin guy who does Leangains.

All of the above have credible scientific backup of their claims/experience/advice.

half_moon

Thanks! Maybe when I get the patience to take someone's advice again, I will look these guys up.

carld256

It's easy. I'm right.


Actually, I've found what works for me and makes sense. My Dr. approves, and all my health markers are normal or at least headed that way. It doesn't matter to me personally what whackadoodle nonsense other people post, I know what works with my habits and my body. When I get to the point where it doesn't work I'll do something else.

cmccorma

I think people come with their own beliefs already. So we tend to listen to those who confirm our own beliefs. That is why the 1,200 calorie folks are not going to immediately jump ship and follow the eat more folks. We look for things to confirm what we already believe deep down. We should all do what works for us, and if it stops working, make a change.

JayByrd107

I think you're making this way more complex than it really is.

The only thing you need to remember: don't eat after 8pm because if you do, it will all turn to fat.

chris1816

wild_wild_life

Nutrition is not physics. You can't go into it looking for "the answer". There are a lot of different ways to do it. Pick your favorite.

bikhi

After two weeks on the boards, this is some random crap I've read, wherein I have determined that absolutely nobody knows what they are talking about. (All of the below have been stated with great authority and articles and research to back it up, by the way.)

-Eat more fruits and veggies.
-The sugar in fruit will make you fat.
-Cardio will melt the pounds off.
-Cardio burns muscle, not fat, and you will remain fat and weak.
-Don't eat back all of your exercise calories
-Eat back all of them, or you are in starvation mode.
-Starvation mode isn't real.
-Starvation mode is real, only for those with >5% body fat.
-It doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you stay within your calorie goal.
-Eat "cleanly", or you won't lose weight.
-Cardio made me gain 40 pounds and created thyroid problems.
-Cardio took me from a size 10203 to a size 2 in one year.
-You have to do weight training, or you won't be burning fat.
-Weight training only builds muscle; it does not burn fat.
-You must do both, or you won't go anywhere.
-I eat whatever I want! I am so skinny!
-I eat a very strict diet filled with green stuff and don't even walk into a proximity of fat foods. I am a sexy beast.


What have I determined? Either you are all out of your minds, or everybody is different and there is NO reason to listen to anything anybody says until you've tried it and failed/succeeded yourself. So my suggestion is that we delete all forum threads and just leave the "success stories" and the "motivation" thread. (I kid, but. No. Wait. Seriously.)

preach it sister. i know what you mean.

chris1816

Nutrition is not physics. You can't go into it looking for "the answer". There are a lot of different ways to do it. Pick your favorite.

Are you f*cking with me?

half_moon

After two weeks on the boards, this is some random crap I've read, wherein I have determined that absolutely nobody knows what they are talking about. (All of the below have been stated with great authority and articles and research to back it up, by the way.)

-Eat more fruits and veggies.
-The sugar in fruit will make you fat.
-Cardio will melt the pounds off.
-Cardio burns muscle, not fat, and you will remain fat and weak.
-Don't eat back all of your exercise calories
-Eat back all of them, or you are in starvation mode.
-Starvation mode isn't real.
-Starvation mode is real, only for those with >5% body fat.
-It doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you stay within your calorie goal.
-Eat "cleanly", or you won't lose weight.
-Cardio made me gain 40 pounds and created thyroid problems.
-Cardio took me from a size 10203 to a size 2 in one year.
-You have to do weight training, or you won't be burning fat.
-Weight training only builds muscle; it does not burn fat.
-You must do both, or you won't go anywhere.
-I eat whatever I want! I am so skinny!
-I eat a very strict diet filled with green stuff and don't even walk into a proximity of fat foods. I am a sexy beast.


What have I determined? Either you are all out of your minds, or everybody is different and there is NO reason to listen to anything anybody says until you've tried it and failed/succeeded yourself. So my suggestion is that we delete all forum threads and just leave the "success stories" and the "motivation" thread. (I kid, but. No. Wait. Seriously.)

preach it sister. i know what you mean.

Oh my god, somebody on this forum finally understands my sarcasm!!

A MIRACLE HAS JUST HAPPENED, FOLKS. A MIRACLE.

Phaedra2014

LOL!! I think your post is fantastic I've been here two weeks also and I have no idea which way is what. However, I do appreciate everyone's suggestions. The "truth" is probably somewhere in between.

MoreBean13

Don't trust anyone who preaches absolutism about anything. Fitness and nutrition are complicated and hormone-driven, such is life.

Energy consumed= energy expended + energy storage
is about the only hard rule. And though it appears simple, it is complicated and hormone driven.

pixardad

@half_moon, it seems to me you've learned the most important thing about weight loss...figure it out for you, yourself. In other words, yes, everyone is diffferent and because of that "results may vary".

I'm glad you're not listening to anyone right now. It shows an independent mind in a person willing to lead and find her own path. Go for it! If you want a little help, feel free to add me but I warn you, I don't have all the answers and I can only share my experiences (which is pretty much all oneone on MFP is doing).

Good luck!

--PD

wild_wild_life

That was sarcasm? You should have put it in italics.

Meloyelo2010

The internet gods need to make a sarcasm font. Michael Cera knows nothing of bread that skinny whip!

ReneeCK

This made me giggle. And I thank you for that

Cwilbanks12105

This makes the top 10 best mfp post ever.

anaussie

I think people come with their own beliefs already. So we tend to listen to those who confirm our own beliefs. We look for things to confirm what we already believe deep down. We should all do what works for us, and if it stops working, make a change.

Yes.

ndmain1977

I deem this post: doubleplusgood

marie_cressman

After two weeks on the boards, this is some random crap I've read, wherein I have determined that absolutely nobody knows what they are talking about. (All of the below have been stated with great authority and articles and research to back it up, by the way.)

-Eat more fruits and veggies.
-The sugar in fruit will make you fat.
-Cardio will melt the pounds off.
-Cardio burns muscle, not fat, and you will remain fat and weak.
-Don't eat back all of your exercise calories
-Eat back all of them, or you are in starvation mode.
-Starvation mode isn't real.
-Starvation mode is real, only for those with >5% body fat.
-It doesn't matter what you eat, as long as you stay within your calorie goal.
-Eat "cleanly", or you won't lose weight.
-Cardio made me gain 40 pounds and created thyroid problems.
-Cardio took me from a size 10203 to a size 2 in one year.
-You have to do weight training, or you won't be burning fat.
-Weight training only builds muscle; it does not burn fat.
-You must do both, or you won't go anywhere.
-I eat whatever I want! I am so skinny!
-I eat a very strict diet filled with green stuff and don't even walk into a proximity of fat foods. I am a sexy beast.


What have I determined? Either you are all out of your minds, or everybody is different and there is NO reason to listen to anything anybody says until you've tried it and failed/succeeded yourself. So my suggestion is that we delete all forum threads and just leave the "success stories" and the "motivation" thread. (I kid, but. No. Wait. Seriously.)

LOL you made me giggle. i've felt the same way about the boards. SO, i saw a nutritionist.

Pebble321

Too many experts here.

I'm right though!

Rae6503

Trust Lyle McDonald and Alan Aragon. There are a few others, but those two for sure.

http://alanaragon.com/

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/

ETA: Also MFPers Steve Troutman and SideSteal

ExplorinLauren

I think people come with their own beliefs already. So we tend to listen to those who confirm our own beliefs. That is why the 1,200 calorie folks are not going to immediately jump ship and follow the eat more folks. We look for things to confirm what we already believe deep down. We should all do what works for us, and if it stops working, make a change.

Ex-act-ly.

fonitoni

Posts by members, moderators and admins should not be considered medical advice and no guarantee is made against accuracy

every time I see that at the bottom of a post I always say "amen".

Gloria67648

Mfp needs a like button!

RainxPain

Best post ever.

Jazzyjules71

Bump for some of the resources!

KaleidoscopeEyes1056

And, don't forget, you can't eat past 7.But timing of meals does not matter.

Natashaa1991

omg you're so right! i love this post

jfan175

Trust Lyle McDonald and Alan Aragon. There are a few others, but those two for sure.

http://alanaragon.com/

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/

ETA: Also MFPers Steve Troutman and SideSteal

Absolutely this. Read Aragon and McDonlald's stuff and you'll have enough reliable information to make informed decisions related to your own particular situation. And then you can read the posts here and laugh even more.