Carbs/Weightloss??

Helloitsdan

I think most of you people should first check on why and how the low carb diet works. Ketose, refeed, a strict <20-30g carbs per day, etc etc are absolutely non negotiable. You'll easily gain weight if you don't know what you're doing or just yo-yo the **** out of your body.

There's people who devote their life to study and research diets, don't try to think you can learn all that in one day.

I cycle the carbs.
Lift days I hit about 500g.
Rest days between 100-150g.

andric1

I cycle the carbs.
Lift days I hit about 500g.
Rest days between 100-150g.

Perfectly fine by me, but it's not really low carb since you're way above any amount that would allow ketosis.

abbylg1983

The two schools of thought (calories in vs. calories out and Paleo/low carb) are actually more similar than people realize. By cutting your carbs, you are cutting calories, most likely. Sidebar- when I say low carb, I really mean low grains and starches, I think any diet right now recognizes you need vegetables.

Here is what you get for 100 calories that are carbs:
6 ritz carckers
I piece of bread
1/2 of a cup of most cereals (except for Cheerios which is a whole cup) (fyi, a half cup might not even fill the bottom layer of the bowl)
1 banana
1/6 of a pasta dish at Olive Garden (i'm too lazy to look up what pasta is I just know that most Olive Garden dishes run about 600-1000 calories each)

Here is what you get for 100 calories on Paleo/low carb
6 egg whites (or 1.5 whole eggs)
1 3 oz chicken breast
3 or 4 cups of broccoli
1 can of tuna (okay cheating a bit since I don't think canned tuna is allowed in Paleo)
1 3 oz serving of shrimp

I mean, you're going to eat a LOT of food trying to get to 1500+ calories on a strict paleo diet. But most people who have cereal for breakfast don't measure by cups- they fill up the bowl. That's about 3 cups probably. Even the average "healthy" cereal is probably around 120-150 calories a cup, so now you're talking about 360-450 calories just on dry cereal. Add a cup of milk and you've just topped 500. Add a banana and you're now at 600. Add a piece of toast with light butter and you're over 700 calories. The first time I started myfitness pal I added up my breakfast and was FLOORED. And I thought I was a healthy eater! But most carb heavy foods are pretty high in calories.

That being said, I do believe calories in calories out is effective for weight loss. Note- weight loss. Not fat loss. You can lose a lot of weight and still have a potbelly. For me, I was always slender as an adult (I was kind of chubby in high school because I ate horribly) but I always had a roll of belly fat and what I considered thunder thighs. Now I don't count calories and eat a more Paleo diet and I haven't lost much more weight, but my legs are noticeably thinner and my stomach is flattening out. I have a ways to go, but phasing out grains has been helpful to me. For me, calories in < calories out = weight loss, cutting out grains = leaning out.

Helloitsdan

I cycle the carbs.
Lift days I hit about 500g.
Rest days between 100-150g.

Perfectly fine by me, but it's not really low carb since you're way above any amount that would allow ketosis.

Keto takes time.
I cycle every other day.
The rest days turns out somewhere around 20% of total cals.
I'ts all thats needed for the water retention to go bye byes.
=D
A 4mi walk fasted in the AM tends to help move things along as well.

Annie_ga

All I know is that when I eat a meal heavy in carbs, I stay hungry. And when I eat a meal heavier in protein with some carbs - I feel very satisfied = not hungry. When I am not hungry, I eat less This is how I've lost weight: eat less, exercise more. After I get to my goal weight, I'll still favor protein - so it's a lifestyle change for sure.

jdavis193

I get the oxygen fitness mags and the nutritional said women need 40 to 60 % of carbs

LesterBlackstone

Still disproves losing fat is simply cals in/ cals out. That was my point.

Anecdotal evidence. Your results are not universal, so it doesnt disprove anything.

Check out the guy who lost 27 lbs, 9% body fat, lowered his bad cholesterol and didn't increase exercise being on a TWINKIE DIET. You know what he did? He restricted his calories. Just that.

Not saying it's safe or healthy, but just showing that different things work for different people.

garentee he lost quite a bit of LBM as well though, still proving that cals in/cals out may be the answer to weight loss, but for efficient fat loss while preserving muscle mass... Not so much.

I like how you jump to conclusions without actually looking things up.



On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

He now weighs 174 pounds.

Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent.


Do the math. He lost about 3lbs of LBM.

ONOEZ!!!! His muscles fell off!!!

bulbadoof

The way I understand it is that fats and proteins can be used by your body to create and repair cells, muscles, etc. whereas the only thing carbs can be used for is energy. That implies that fats and proteins have more bang for their buck, as it were. I definitely don't think carbs are evil or something to be completely avoided, but I agree they don't really benefit you as much as the other macros; I find they're often not "worth it" in terms of how much they contribute to my nutritional goals and how satisfied I feel after them compared to proteins or fats.