Limiting myself to 1500 calories. Too much sugar though?

rileysowner

In my opinion, people are stressing too many opinions and minor details... everyone is different. Recommended weight loss by medical professionals is 1-2 pounds per week, it is possible to lose faster and slower, but everyone makes it too complicated for people new to losing weight.

Truth is keep your calories under what you burn. If you want to lose faster and can do so without effecting how you feel, then lower more or exercise more... Good Luck! The lifestyle being healthy will grant you will more than pay for the effort it takes to get there

Okay, I understand you're well intentioned and you just want to help this guy out and I really respect that but seriously calories are just a number, they don't mean anything. If all of his calories are coming from ice cream, don't you think his body would handle that differently than if it came from vegetables or meat?

The energy in/energy out theory has been disproven on several occasions and its more important to look at what drives fat accumulation and lipolysis than it is to consistently be counting calories.

Why do people such as you always, and I mean always, push things to an idiotic extreme. NO ONE is saying just eat ice cream, but are all, as far as I can see saying a bowl of ice cream is not going to destroy your weight loss as long as your body is in an energy deficit. You are spouting things that really need peer reviewed research papers to back them up, so provide them. I am sure that others you are discounting for not having a degree can do so since I have seen them do it before.

Cuz calories is calories bro.
Duh. I mean since calories are the only thing that matter, right?

Hey you got it at last. :flowerforyou:

c8linmarie

If you're trying to make a point, I missed it. Once you have a degree in physics or nutrition, your word is credible. Until then, you're just a guy on the internet spreading broscience to people who don't know any better.

Oh please spare me your wikipedia regurgitation. Thanks.

Hmmmm...

Any chance you might have credentials to prove YOUR "so called" knowledge??

Otherwise, you're just a pot calling a kettle black.

That is all.

epmck11

The energy in/energy out theory has been disproven on several occasions and its more important to look at what drives fat accumulation and lipolysis than it is to consistently be counting calories.

Sources please? Saying something has been disproven on several occasions only works if you cite these specific occasions.

robin52077

This thread is why we need an up/down voting system, or cred...

Sidesteal = awesome, knowledgeable, been here for a long time, and that huge post count is almost all VERY good advice . (the other small percentage is a few well placed jokes and/or sarcasm)
UP VOTE!


GoatFishTwo = new kid, confrontational, spews garbage, very low post count, and has said nothing useful on any thread, except maybe telling that one guy he was eating too little on another thread, he WAS eating too little. Congrats, you got one right. But still....
DOWN VOTE!

Acg67

{~~~ no degree in physics but i do know that I have lost 92 pounds and i did it by COUNTING CALORIES and lifting heavy things...I think if you're trying gain muscle or cut then there are different things to look at but this guy is wanting to drop weight and if he fuels his body with x amount of calories and moves more he WILL LOSE. Now go roid rage somewhere else cumquat

I think "and lifting heavy things" should be emphasized instead of the former because that is what matters.

Roid rage? Oh lord. Give me a break *kitten*.

All of you, should try reading a book for once in your life.
Gary Taubes explains why thermodynamics don't apply in both of his books AND all of his presentations. Educate yourselves.

Taubes is a moron besides his write up on the lipid hypothesis. He actually never debunks the energy balance equation, although did mention the study where the obese ate as much as the lean and yet were obese, so it had to be the evil carbs making them fat, right? Too bad that study relied on self reported intake and the obese are particularly bad at accurately self reporting exercise and intake.

chrisdavey

{~~~ no degree in physics but i do know that I have lost 92 pounds and i did it by COUNTING CALORIES and lifting heavy things...I think if you're trying gain muscle or cut then there are different things to look at but this guy is wanting to drop weight and if he fuels his body with x amount of calories and moves more he WILL LOSE. Now go roid rage somewhere else cumquat

I think "and lifting heavy things" should be emphasized instead of the former because that is what matters.

Roid rage? Oh lord. Give me a break *kitten*.

All of you, should try reading a book for once in your life.
Gary Taubes explains why thermodynamics don't apply in both of his books AND all of his presentations. Educate yourselves.

oh nooooo!

Sarauk2sf

How adorable, your minions are fighting your battles for you.

Oh you are making me laugh today so I thank you for that.

Not a minion, just an amused spectator.

akaOtherWise

The energy in/energy out theory has been disproven on several occasions and its more important to look at what drives fat accumulation and lipolysis than it is to consistently be counting calories.

Sources please? Saying something has been disproven on several occasions only works if you cite these specific occasions.

Gary Taubes explains why thermodynamics don't apply in both of his books AND all of his presentations. Educate yourselves.

you know, because a book or presentation that doesn't show all variables of a study that disproves something is completely believable.

JosieRawr

By eating less junk foods n more good foods, maintaining a healthy calorie count is very helpful, it's suppose to be a change to the better of your habits, not a diet. Crash diets tend to lead to rebounding weight and sometime even end up weighing more that before the diet. I'm on this site specifically because i wasn't eating enough and it was killing my metabolism.

1SlimShaylee

go to scoobyworkshop.com and calculate your tdee and minus 15%
that's a smart way to go about life long weight loss!

jimmeezwyf

My weight loss came to a complete stall in June after I lost 10 lbs. in the first week I started this journey, which was all water weight I'm sure. I am 5'6" 229 and was eating about 1200 calories give or take a 200 calories a day. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't losing until I got exhausted after about 2 weeks. I wasn't eating enough. On Monday I upped my calories to what MFP told me I needed and low and behold I've been losing a pound a day since! I'm eating on an average 2,000 calories a day, give or take 200 calories. I never had a problem losing in the past and couldn't figure out why, well I never had a low calorie diet ever and my body needed fuel to burn! I don't know if the weight loss will continue like this, but for right now I'm okay with losing a pound a day since I've been at this since April. Good luck! Keep adjusting what you are doing till you find what works. That's what I've always done in the past instead of giving up. You will find what works, and you will feel so good finding what works for you.

P.S. I don't know if this will work for you. I have often had to lose a bunch of weight after my pregnancies, and also after quitting smoking and starting then quitting again. I can only say that there are three things that have really worked for me consistently, and that has been eating healthy most of the time, walking/jogging at least 3.5 miles a day, and heavy weight training at least 3 days a week. I hope you find your burn!

robin52077

Gary Taubes explains why thermodynamics don't apply in both of his books AND all of his presentations. Educate yourselves.

Gary Taubes is as much of a quack as Dr. Oz.

secrets_out

Idk if this is right or not but for ME it works...It's not that you HAVE to eat fruits and veggies to lose weight...the difference for ME is the amount...I can have 2 huge, plump fat bananas or a bag of mm's my body is gonna fuel of both but one will satisfy me longer and i get to eat more...but I CAN HAVE EITHER AND STILL LOSE WEIGHT...but that's just me.

mustgetmuscles1

I love these threads. ; )

secrets_out

In my opinion, people are stressing too many opinions and minor details... everyone is different. Recommended weight loss by medical professionals is 1-2 pounds per week, it is possible to lose faster and slower, but everyone makes it too complicated for people new to losing weight.

Truth is keep your calories under what you burn. If you want to lose faster and can do so without effecting how you feel, then lower more or exercise more... Good Luck! The lifestyle being healthy will grant you will more than pay for the effort it takes to get there

Okay, I understand you're well intentioned and you just want to help this guy out and I really respect that but seriously calories are just a number, they don't mean anything. If all of his calories are coming from ice cream, don't you think his body would handle that differently than if it came from vegetables or meat?

The energy in/energy out theory has been disproven on several occasions and its more important to look at what drives fat accumulation and lipolysis than it is to consistently be counting calories.

Why do people such as you always, and I mean always, push things to an idiotic extreme. NO ONE is saying just eat ice cream, but are all, as far as I can see saying a bowl of ice cream is not going to destroy your weight loss as long as your body is in an energy deficit. You are spouting things that really need peer reviewed research papers to back them up, so provide them. I am sure that others you are discounting for not having a degree can do so since I have seen them do it before.

Cuz calories is calories bro.
Duh. I mean since calories are the only thing that matter, right?

I bet you like raspberry ketones too huh.

Sublog

Carbs are great when they are good carbs!

This is when any and all of your credibility was lost. A carbohydrate is a carbohydrate. You can paint it, dress it up, call it a different name, or whatever you please but the end result is still the same thing. It's going to become glucose molecules and insulin will spike. Carbs and insulin make you fat and keep you fat. Plain and simple.

Excess calories make you fat. Protein is insulinogenic too. Carbs do not make you fat or keep you fat in the absence of an energy surplus.

Gluconeogenesis only happens to protein when more protein is consumed than fat. If fat is the most plentiful then fat will be utilized.

Yes, they do. Clearly you do not understand how insulin works.

LOL what?

IronPlayground

It was proven here, just yesterday, that the all fat 10,000 calorie diet is what's new and hip. You guys are arguing over outdated stuff.

pastryari

If you're trying to make a point, I missed it. Once you have a degree in physics or nutrition, your word is credible. Until then, you're just a guy on the internet spreading broscience to people who don't know any better.

Oh please spare me your wikipedia regurgitation. Thanks.

:laugh: :laugh: This GIF will never get old and never fail to make me laugh. This thread is just full of all sorts of awesomeness.

akaOtherWise

Gary Taubes explains why thermodynamics don't apply in both of his books AND all of his presentations. Educate yourselves.

Gary Taubes is as much of a quack as Dr. Oz.

He will teach us how to defy physics!!!

This is also the guy that said, "I started eating pears...I added 4 or 5 pears to my diet and put of 15lbs in 6 months." Then goes to say it's not about the calories...

Gary Taubes also said "If I eat fruit, other than maybe a handful of blueberries a day, I start to gain weight, so I don't eat it." So keep in mind that he has brain damage. Also keep in mind that his debunked insulin hypothesis was based on such solid foundations as observational studies with (notoriously inaccurate) self-reported food intake, and ad libitum eating. And that we're all still waiting for a controlled study showing mass gain in a hypocaloric state.

meshashesha2012

1930 is too high?!?! dang son! i eat a bit more than that and i lose. i think you're setting yourself up for failure by going to 1500 regardless of whether or not you drop sugar

i havent read all the responses but i'm sure someone else has said that. i just wanted to state the obvious :laugh:

but in general good luck on your weight loss and dont be afraid to eat food! you can still lose weight and not starve yourself

Silverkittycat

I'm on a serious cut down and am limiting myself to1500 calories. The app set me at 1930 bit I feel that is too high. I'm finding that many calories fine but when going into a detailed look at my breakdown for the day i'm taking in to much sugar. My day is pretty sugar free I feel other than fruit. I know fruit had sugar in but that is the only sugar i'm taking in as far add I can see. Errol it affect my weight loss?

You're fine on a VLCD, you have plenty of fat to be used. yarwell is correct on this. If 1500 is enough calories that you feel good and still function well in your daily activities, go for it. Unless you have a medical condition where you need to limit sugar or carbs do not worry about them. Meet and exceed your fat and protein goals, revisit and revise as needed as you lose weight, make sure to do so as you will probably need to increase your calories once your weight is lower.

sarahrbraun

On reading the forums tonight i am reading about people cutting carbs from their diets? Surely this is exactly what MFP is not about?

I am one of those "people cutting carbs from their diets", and I will tell you why. About 8 years ago I GAINED weight on weight watchers--about 20-30lbs in like 4 months. I went to the doctors and was diagnosed with insulin resistance. My doctor told me to cut my carbs down to 50g net per day. In like 2 months I lost 20lbs AND got pregnant ( after not being on BC for almost 18 months). I had to stop eating low carb while pregnant and nursing ( OB orders). After weaning, I was retested and my insulin levels were fine...

So over the last 4 years or so, I gained 50-60lbs, so in February I started going to the gym and working out 90 minutes 3-4x per week. In 3 months I lost a whole 7lbs. May 7th I started cutting my carbs down to 100g or less per day. From May 7th- July 7th I lost 15 pounds! And I realized I was having trouble hitting my net calories, so I ended up cutting my workout in HALF--I now work out about 45-60 minutes 3-4x a week, but I am STILL losing weight


Just FYI--the average diet has 250-350g of carbs per day--so 100g is like a 60% reduction, not elimination!

mercurystar999

Diets do not work of that i am sure as i'm sat here now heavier than i have ever been!

Please don't think i am lazy as i am fairly active in my job. I'm an electrician and am constantly up and down step ladders and stairs. Down on my knees and up on my feet all day. I work 6 days a week for 8-10 hours a day. I also walk the dog for half and hour to an hour a day which i have not factored in.

Thinking about my weight gain over the years though has coincided with me not exercising. I used to play badminton and squash most weeks which i have stopped.

jimmeezwyf

1930 is too high?!?! dang son! i eat a bit more than that and i lose. i think you're setting yourself up for failure by going to 1500 regardless of whether or not you drop sugar

i havent read all the responses but i'm sure someone else has said that. i just wanted to state the obvious :laugh:

but in general good luck on your weight loss and dont be afraid to eat food! you can still lose weight and not starve yourself

Agreed!

Starving = Failure PERIOD!

Try eating a little more and see what happens! I know from my own personal experience!

Helloitsdan

I like reading!!!!!





I guess because Gary Taubes wrote the books then it must all be true!!!!


PS: OP I eat 2k-3k daily and lose fat.
You can too!
PPS: i'm 5'6" and 37 and only lift 3x a week.
You will probably be better off in the long run by using a moderate deficit.
Like 20% from TDEE.

yo_andi

{~~~ no degree in physics but i do know that I have lost 92 pounds and i did it by COUNTING CALORIES and lifting heavy things...I think if you're trying gain muscle or cut then there are different things to look at but this guy is wanting to drop weight and if he fuels his body with x amount of calories and moves more he WILL LOSE. Now go roid rage somewhere else cumquat

Cumquat! Delicious little fruity suckers, aren't they?

akaOtherWise

Gluconeogenesis only happens to protein when more protein is consumed than fat. If fat is the most plentiful then fat will be utilized.

Yes, they do. Clearly you do not understand how insulin works.

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0804748

and one more if you want to read a great critique of the Taubes book:
http://weightology.net/?p=265

mustgetmuscles1

Diets do not work of that i am sure as i'm sat here now heavier than i have ever been!

Please don't think i am lazy as i am fairly active in my job. I'm an electrician and am constantly up and down step ladders and stairs. Down on my knees and up on my feet all day. I work 6 days a week for 8-10 hours a day. I also walk the dog for half and hour to an hour a day which i have not factored in.

Thinking about my weight gain over the years though has coincided with me not exercising. I used to play badminton and squash most weeks which i have stopped.

I have to agree with the others. There is no need to starve yourself to lose body fat. That is what is important after all is getting rid of the body fat. Too big of a deficit can result in too much muscle loss, fatigue, groginess and that is just in the short term. Keep up huge deficits for a long time and it can possibly cause damage to your body.

Get a good amount of protein and fats. The remainder of your calories can be made up from carbs and it really does not matter what foods they come from as long as you are staying in a calorie deficit. That being said, 2 cups of steamed broccoli will fill you up much better than the same amount of calories from a candy bar.

Helloitsdan

Cumquat! Delicious little fruity suckers, aren't they?

sarahrbraun

Diets do not work of that i am sure as i'm sat here now heavier than i have ever been!

Please don't think i am lazy as i am fairly active in my job. I'm an electrician and am constantly up and down step ladders and stairs. Down on my knees and up on my feet all day. I work 6 days a week for 8-10 hours a day. I also walk the dog for half and hour to an hour a day which i have not factored in.

Thinking about my weight gain over the years though has coincided with me not exercising. I used to play badminton and squash most weeks which i have stopped.

If I were in your position, I would get a fitbit. When I got mine in May, I realized that my sedentary really wasn't THAT sedentary many days ( I still have my profile set for sedentary, and I eat back most of my exercise calories). The last few weeks, I haven't even *logged* my workouts because my fitbit syncs with MFP and tells me how active I have been. Now I KNOW if I need to eat more during the day.