Fast food should be taxed!
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Add a tax to all fast food and subsidize healthy eating propaganda in public places.
They could even add a warning the doors of fast food places like on alcohol bottles and cigarettes packs.
By fast food I mean:
-anything fried
-with added sodium
-with added sugar
-anything that sounds unhealthy or you suspect is.
With your definition - yogurt and bread, even whole wheat would be taxed. Some raw meat would be taxed. Is that what you have in mind?
This! I think you read my mind :laugh:0 -
Also, taxing fast food isn't going to make people healthier; it will just make them pay more.
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's going to go "oh, my mcchicken nuggets were $1.00 before, now they added 1.00 tax! damn, I better eat a salad instead!"0 -
yeh....
not gonna happen0 -
Let's have a fat tax too. And a tax for people who have too many children but shouldn't be. Oh, and let's have a tax for people who own cats, well, because OBVIOUSLY!0
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On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
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The selection is somewhat limited.0 -
Tax it because you say so? Too many people already feel they have the right to tell others how wrong they are...we all have one life, it ends the same for everyone no matter what you eat,drink,wear,smoke.... it just ends a little more unpleasantly for some. Taxes are already added to far too many things....0
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Somewhat broad definition, wouldn't you say? That includes pretty much all food other than fresh produce.Add a tax to all fast food and subsidize healthy eating propaganda in public places.
They could even add a warning the doors of fast food places like on alcohol bottles and cigarettes packs.
By fast food I mean:
-anything fried
-with added sodium
-with added sugar
-anything that sounds unhealthy or you suspect is.0 -
That is a bit harsh. Fast foods are taxed just like everything else. Food prices are high enough as is and if you should put another tax on things that have added sugar/sodium/sound or suspect is unhealthy then most of what I buy would be exceedingly expensive. If you have a personal agenda against "unhealthy foods" that's your business but for those of us that still eat it try not to make it any harder to get by.0
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On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.0 -
I'm fairly certain most folks know that fast food isn't the best choice. And, quite honestly, my family eats quite healthfully on WAY less money than it would cost for regular fast food! People are overloaded with information about health and contradictory health statemetns. One day coffee is awful the next day a report says it fights off alzheimer's. I mean who can blame people for being confused (I work in public health)?!?!
We need to work within our sphere of influence (family, friends, coworkers etc) and change attitudes and behaviors there. More taxes and more signs won't change people's behaviors.0 -
People would still eat it and pay for the extra tax, just like on the cigarettes.
Agree with this0 -
On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.0 -
So in the UK our National Health Service is paying out loads of money to help people who have obesity related diseases. The savings that could be made if people were all a healthy weight would be huge. I like the idea of putting a small tax on things like chocolate, and using that to subsidise healthier food choices like fruits and vegetables. Taxes on tobacco may not stop people smoking, but at least there is money in the NHS to fund 'stop' smoking initiatives, and to help those who suffer from lung cancer.0
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Where I live, sales tax is 9% and prepared food tax is 11%..
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I live in MA. Cigarette taxes have gotten so high here that most brands its about 9-9.50 a pack. I know very few people who have quit. People want something they'll have it.
So true! in Alberta, Canada, its $9.85 and thats without the GST on top of that. so it comes to $10.34.
My mom has smoked since like 1970, she hasn't quit yet, and its supposed to go higher.0 -
That's the point. In your workplace, you could just bring in candy bars if you wanted.On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.0 -
I disagree. I am in great shape and I like to eat fast food once in a while. Why should I pay higher taxes just because some people eat so much fast food/un-healthy food that they are now obese.
If you want to even things out, I say if people are overweight or obese (for more than a year), they should pay higher health insurance. Just like people do with life insurance and car insurance (if you are a bad driver). Or, you get a health insurance discount if your yearly checkup is a good one. Now, that statement will get people upset!!! haha!0 -
I always waste my time reading topics like this when they show up on MFP but I never post a reply...until now.0
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That's the point. In your workplace, you could just bring in candy bars if you wanted.On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.
Unless you work in food service, I don't think you can equate an office to a restaurant. I kind of have to go to work (to still stay employed). I don't *have* to go to a restaurant to eat. In the same way that the vending machine is a luxury, so is a restaurant.0 -
end corn subsidies.... maybe subsidize organic produce and grass fed beef... but warning labels... really? If people don't know that fast food is unhealthy by now they never will... If someone wants to not care about their diet... let them... the government is not your mother0
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Where in the Constitution does the government get the power to tax that? Or 95% of the other stuff they tax for that matter!?!:explode:
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1
On topic: I didn't quit smoking because they increased the tax on cigarettes. The belief that increased taxing is incentive to get people to stop doing something is silly. Also, I spend way less money eating healthy than I did when I was buying fast food, so, no, fast food is not cheaper.0 -
That's still not the point. What your employer does in your workplace only affects the people who work there, when they work there. If the government did the same thing, it would affect everyone all the time.
That's the point. In your workplace, you could just bring in candy bars if you wanted.On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.
Unless you work in food service, I don't think you can equate an office to a restaurant. I kind of have to go to work (to still stay employed). I don't *have* to go to a restaurant to eat. In the same way that the vending machine is a luxury, so is a restaurant.0 -
Yes, more nanny state is what we need. As for saying something to the effect of, anything you think is unhealthy, that is dangerous. leaving things open to interpretation leads to abuse. People need to learn self control, nothing more, nothing less.0
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Oh, you mean, make it cost more, like when cigarettes went up? Yah, that will stop everyone from eating it-HA! I highly doubt it.
Seriously, this is not a problem that will be going away anytime soon, so all we can do is be as healthy as we can to cancel out all the other crap going on.
Sorry, I don't this this would ever work.0 -
I don't think the government has a right to tell people what they should and shouldn't spend their money on food wise, let alone add extra taxes on...0
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That's still not the point. What your employer does in your workplace only affects the people who work there, when they work there. If the government did the same thing, it would affect everyone all the time.
That's the point. In your workplace, you could just bring in candy bars if you wanted.On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.
Unless you work in food service, I don't think you can equate an office to a restaurant. I kind of have to go to work (to still stay employed). I don't *have* to go to a restaurant to eat. In the same way that the vending machine is a luxury, so is a restaurant.
No, my point was relevant, and yours isn't. I showed the point of comparison is false. While you pointed out a difference between the two that is meaningless. You could still acquire unhealthy food through other means than fast food restaurants regardless of scope of impact.0 -
That's obvious. Even with the OP's regulations in place, you could still get unhealthy food you'd just have to pay more. I don't see how you could possibly believe that what your boss does would be the same thing if the government did it.
That's still not the point. What your employer does in your workplace only affects the people who work there, when they work there. If the government did the same thing, it would affect everyone all the time.
That's the point. In your workplace, you could just bring in candy bars if you wanted.On the flip side, I do work in an office where the vending machines items that are supposedly healthier have their costs slightly subsidized by the company, and the candy-like items are more expensive to make up for it.
I kind of like it. It's a small enough scale that it works for me. However, there are a few problems.
Sometimes the choices for what's healthier are ridiculous and stupid. You can't just see a "no trans fats" label and claim it must be healthy.
and
The selection is somewhat limited.
But this isnt a government regulation. This is just your company's vending machines. Someone who doesnt want to pay the extra money can bring their own food in.
And? It's not like you can't double fry chicken strips at your house.
Unless you work in food service, I don't think you can equate an office to a restaurant. I kind of have to go to work (to still stay employed). I don't *have* to go to a restaurant to eat. In the same way that the vending machine is a luxury, so is a restaurant.
No, my point was relevant, and yours isn't. I showed the point of comparison is false. While you pointed out a difference between the two that is meaningless. You could still acquire unhealthy food through other means than fast food restaurants regardless of scope of impact.0 -
People who think the government should step in with nanny laws and taxes should be taxed... we can call it a stupid tax.0
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Let's not let people vote, either. Yea, they might make a bad decision with their freedom. We better just take that freedom away, JUST IN CASE.
Thank you!0 -
Great idea.
Then we could bulk up on military spending.
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