guns or no guns?
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However the question should read:
but, in one word, post whether you are "anti-constitution" or "pro-constitution" or "neither"
^^^ THIS!!! And Pro-gun, if you couldnt tell. lol0 -
What if a private citizen in the Aurora movie theatre was armed with a gun and started shooting back and adding to the chaos?
Aurora is pretty much a nightmare scenario. Even if I had been in that theater with a gun, I probably would not have drawn and fired it unless the guy were literally within arm's reach. Even then, there's a chance my shots might have gone through him, or missed and hit someone else, but at that point, it probably would have been worth the risk (chance of ending the situation as compared to letting him continue without trying to stop it). In that crowded of an environment, though, it's nearly impossible to get a clear shot, whereas the other guy has an entire room of target, and doesn't care what he hits.0 -
I hate to break it to you, but your gun is never going to protect you from your phobia(s). Sure, arm yourself to the teeth in the meantime -- I'm sure it makes you feel really, really tough. Great job, Rambo.
You're still a paranoid lunatic.
That's a very bold statement.0 -
I do not understand Americans' obsession with guns. And yes, it's an obsession -- glancing over the replies here, we aren't talking about something sensible like about owning a rifle or two for hunting deer. No, we're talking about egotistical, fearful idiots who think they're Vigilante McJustice, when in reality they're one step removed from James Holmes.
What the hell are you so scared about that you need a gun to "protect" yourself from?
Here, let's look at some numbers. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm/
Leading causes of death: Heart disease. Cancer. Hey, I'll give you some credit -- being this is a fitness site foremost, you're probably doing something about #1. Great. But the rest of that? Where do guns come in against these actual, legitimate threats to your life?
I hate to break it to you, but your gun is never going to protect you from your phobia(s). Sure, arm yourself to the teeth in the meantime -- I'm sure it makes you feel really, really tough. Great job, Rambo.
You're still a paranoid lunatic.
Let me see now. WHAT am I protecting myself from. . . .
Well, that bear who's running through the woods at me as I'm walking my dog. Oh, and don't forget about the coyote who thinks my dog might make a mighty fine treat before he settles down for dinner. And that man who just broke a window and is coming into my house and is going to try and harm me.
Owning a gun doesn't make me feel like a "tough guy" but knowing that 12 gauge is in a spot where I can get at it makes me feel a hell of a lot more safe when I'm home alone.0 -
I do not understand Americans' obsession with guns. And yes, it's an obsession -- glancing over the replies here, we aren't talking about something sensible like about owning a rifle or two for hunting deer. No, we're talking about egotistical, fearful idiots who think they're Vigilante McJustice, when in reality they're one step removed from James Holmes.
What the hell are you so scared about that you need a gun to "protect" yourself from?
Here, let's look at some numbers. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm/
Leading causes of death: Heart disease. Cancer. Hey, I'll give you some credit -- being this is a fitness site foremost, you're probably doing something about #1. Great. But the rest of that? Where do guns come in against these actual, legitimate threats to your life?
I hate to break it to you, but your gun is never going to protect you from your phobia(s). Sure, arm yourself to the teeth in the meantime -- I'm sure it makes you feel really, really tough. Great job, Rambo.
You're still a paranoid lunatic.
I own a gun, and carry it very rarely. But i do carry it sometimes.
There are good reasons to own a gun for protection.
For instance, this girl who's husband died 3 months before, had a young child and these people who were pissed off at her husband for something, decided to break into her house. She was on the phone with 911 at the time as well. She had to shoot 1 of the 2 intruders, and they both lived. By having that gun it prevented the two guys from getting closer to her, and was able to protect herself until the police came.
She had a small child, a knife might have helped her, but there was a good chance that it wouldn't have done much with 2 attackers there. THIS is why I am pro-gun. Because of instances like this.0 -
Remember your words if you or your family are ever the victims of violent crime. It may not be very likely to happen, but if it does, your lives can be shattered in an instant. Some of us choose to be prepared for that possibility.
Have you given any though as to how you would deal with the emotional fallout? Say Johnny Crackhead breaks into your house to steal you PlayStation and you put a bullet in his head. How do you live with that?
I would not hesitate or loose a moments sleep about it.0 -
Anti-gun
(And I'm American BTW). I can't even fathom just going to a gun range for fun.0 -
I do not understand Americans' obsession with guns. And yes, it's an obsession -- glancing over the replies here, we aren't talking about something sensible like about owning a rifle or two for hunting deer. No, we're talking about egotistical, fearful idiots who think they're Vigilante McJustice, when in reality they're one step removed from James Holmes.
What the hell are you so scared about that you need a gun to "protect" yourself from?
Here, let's look at some numbers. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm/
Leading causes of death: Heart disease. Cancer. Hey, I'll give you some credit -- being this is a fitness site foremost, you're probably doing something about #1. Great. But the rest of that? Where do guns come in against these actual, legitimate threats to your life?
I hate to break it to you, but your gun is never going to protect you from your phobia(s). Sure, arm yourself to the teeth in the meantime -- I'm sure it makes you feel really, really tough. Great job, Rambo.
You're still a paranoid lunatic.
most people who own guns dont fall into the gun nut stereotype you are talking about. some people live in bad neighborhoods or have contact with wildlife. some live in seemingly safe areas but would rather be safe than sorry.
^^^ This... my parents own guns... why? Coyotes... we own guns, why? Coyotes... and we live in the outskirts of a major metro area... and while we don't experience crime, why chance it? Guns in our house are a last resort... we don't stockpile ammo, we don't stock pile weapons...0 -
The average person on the street has absolutely no need for a fully automatic assault rifle with a fifty round magazine
The average person having a fully automatic rifle is very very illegal.0 -
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To set the record straight fully automatic rifles have been illegal since the 1930's unless you are able to obtain a class III firearms permit which is extremely hard to come by.
Excellent - so if they are illegal, criminals won't use them?0 -
I'm neither anti nor pro in this matter. I have nothing against guns with proper regulations. I find "zomg we need guns" view a bit scary, though. So long for evolution.0
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Pro-gun 110%
And not to be political, but it's people that kill people, NOT the guns. Last I checked, the gun (or knife, drugs, etc) didn't jump up and say 'oh, I wanna kill someone today!'. It would be the person.
Just my 2 cents worth.0 -
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Anti gun.
As a Canadian Brit I am not surprised at the number of pro-gun responses. But as guns are not as big a part of Canadian culture I don't have an understanding as to why Americans think they are so necessary.
What if a private citizen in the Aurora movie theatre was armed with a gun and started shooting back and adding to the chaos? How do law enforcement sort criminals from those just joining in because they have the right to bear arms?
The average person on the street has absolutely no need for a fully automatic assault rifle with a fifty round magazine! At best, individuals should be limited to a small handgun.
IMHO.
To set the record straight fully automatic rifles have been illegal since the 1930's unless you are able to obtain a class III firearms permit which is extremely hard to come by.
Just as quickly as you can put a clip in a gun and pop off 40 rounds, i can load two perfectly legal guns with a clip of 20 rounds each. I do have two hands! *gasp* .... its not the automatic rifle that is the problem.. its the psycho who uses it.0 -
Anti-gun
(And I'm American BTW). I can't even fathom just going to a gun range for fun.
shooting outside is way better imo.0 -
I'm neither anti nor pro in this matter. I have nothing against guns with proper regulations. I find "zomg we need guns" view a bit scary, though. So long for evolution.
natural selection will do its job i think0 -
Remember your words if you or your family are ever the victims of violent crime. It may not be very likely to happen, but if it does, your lives can be shattered in an instant. Some of us choose to be prepared for that possibility.
Have you given any though as to how you would deal with the emotional fallout? Say Johnny Crackhead breaks into your house to steal you PlayStation and you put a bullet in his head. How do you live with that?
I would not hesitate or loose a moments sleep about it.
Exactly... what if Johnny Crackhead is surprised that I'm in the house and comes after me? Or my child? Perhaps he has a gun... I am protecting my property and those under my care.0 -
Me and the .357 in my purse are PRO GUN0
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Progun.
I have my reasons and they all go along with the If you take away guns only criminals have guns. IT's true. There could no gun stores and a criminal would still be able to find one.
^^^^We have a winner!!!
Pro gun as well.
Criminals will still find them. Taking them away from law abiding citizens won't stop that.
For me, gun control means using both hands and having good aim. :-)
This.0 -
it doesn't make someone anti-constitutional for being anti-weapons that shoot peoples faces in. no politics!However the question should read:
but, in one word, post whether you are "anti-constitution" or "pro-constitution" or "neither"
No poitics just common sense...guns do not kill people anymore then spoons and forks make us fat.....
Pro gun for sure!0 -
Anti gun.
As a Canadian Brit I am not surprised at the number of pro-gun responses. But as guns are not as big a part of Canadian culture I don't have an understanding as to why Americans think they are so necessary.
What if a private citizen in the Aurora movie theatre was armed with a gun and started shooting back and adding to the chaos? How do law enforcement sort criminals from those just joining in because they have the right to bear arms?
The average person on the street has absolutely no need for a fully automatic assault rifle with a fifty round magazine! At best, individuals should be limited to a small handgun.
IMHO.
To set the record straight fully automatic rifles have been illegal since the 1930's unless you are able to obtain a class III firearms permit which is extremely hard to come by.
Just as quickly as you can put a clip in a gun and pop off 40 rounds, i can load two perfectly legal guns with a clip of 20 rounds each. I do have two hands! *gasp* .... its not the automatic rifle that is the problem.. its the psycho who uses it.
well mental health issues are going to be around forever.....0 -
Remember your words if you or your family are ever the victims of violent crime. It may not be very likely to happen, but if it does, your lives can be shattered in an instant. Some of us choose to be prepared for that possibility.
Have you given any though as to how you would deal with the emotional fallout? Say Johnny Crackhead breaks into your house to steal you PlayStation and you put a bullet in his head. How do you live with that?
How do you live with the emotional fallout if said situation was. Johnny crackhead breaks into your house, and rapes and kills your wife while you have no way to protect you or your family as you were not prepared in the slightest.
^THIS^ I would never WANT to kill/hurt someone, HOWEVER, if it's between them or my family...my family will always come first and I would not think twice about protecting them. How would I feel if someone broke into my home and I shot and killed them rather than them hurting my family? I would feel pretty damn good that I was able to save my family, thankful that I had that gun.0 -
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To set the record straight fully automatic rifles have been illegal since the 1930's unless you are able to obtain a class III firearms permit which is extremely hard to come by.
Excellent - so if they are illegal, criminals won't use them?
In a perfect world, no they wouldn't
But Criminals do illegal things, that's why they are criminals.0 -
Pro-guns0
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I own a gun. I guess I'm pro gun. Guns don't kill, people do. If they don't have guns they will use something else like hijacking a bus and plowing it into a crowd of people. If guns were illegal and no one own one, do you think the number of burglaries and home invasions would go up?0
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Remember your words if you or your family are ever the victims of violent crime. It may not be very likely to happen, but if it does, your lives can be shattered in an instant. Some of us choose to be prepared for that possibility.
Have you given any though as to how you would deal with the emotional fallout? Say Johnny Crackhead breaks into your house to steal you PlayStation and you put a bullet in his head. How do you live with that?
Absolutely, though I wouldn't shoot someone in that situation anyway. In the case of a home invasion, get your family into a single room, lock/bar the door, and call the police. Resort to deadly force ONLY if the person escalates by breaking into that room, or if the situation is already violent before you can get everyone to safety.
Even if everything went completely according to plan, I'd probably still be a mess after the fact. That's something I will happily live with, if it means my wife and daughter didn't get raped or maimed, and we're all alive. There's a saying I learned when considering all of this: "I'd rather be tried by twelve than carried by six." Twelve referring to the people in a jury, six referring to pallbearers. Your first priority is ensuring the safety of your family. Everything else can be handled afterward, at leisure.0 -
Pro Gun, but only if you pass a mandatory licensing and training session. Firearms + Stupidity (or Ignorance) = Scary.0
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However the question should read:
but, in one word, post whether you are "anti-constitution" or "pro-constitution" or "neither"
HERE HERE! Give that man a round of applause.0
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