"clean foods"
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This. As others have said, weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Since it doesn't have a definition I think each person decides what clean means and whether it's important. For me, clean includes high quality protein powders, for others it doesn't. I'm also down with whole wheat pasta and cheese. I just try to eat less processed/more whole foods for several reasons:
1. Nutrient dense. Whole foods tend to be denser in nutrients compared to processed ones. Think of it as more bang for your caloric buck.
2. I find them more filling (potentially related to number one) and I feel better.
3. I don't think 'processed' foods will kill you but there's something to be said for eating it as it came, not as it was engineered with extra chemicals with potentially questionable effects.
4. There's a lot of people who say it affects body composition (fat, muscle etc). I don't know that I fully believe this but since I already believe all the stuff above I'll put on the 'pros' list.
That said, I drink booze and eat pizza too. Once a week when I'm good, more when I'm not. But I also try to constantly improve the quality of my food - subbing natural peanut butter for smuckers, plain greek yogurt for dannon oikos etc. It's what works for me.
I haven't tried either of those- is yoplait a 'no-no?' Because I love it.
Honestly, that's up to you. I would try to steer away from yogurts that already flavored like most yoplaits and starting eating plain yogurt - that is yogurt that is just cultured milk. Then I add a natural sweetner like stevia and some fruit. I think that's better for all the reasons I stated above. It doesn't mean I don't sometimes eat yoplait (frozen chocolate whipped is so yum) nor does it mean you can't eat it. You just have to decide if cutting the extra stuff and adding the nutrients from the fruit is important to you.
Example:
Strawberry Yogurt Low Fat, 6 oz.
Calories: 170
Fat: 2 g
Sat Fat: 1 g
Sodium: 85 mg
Potassium: 230 mg
Carbs: 33 g
Fiber: 0 g
Sugars:26 g
Protein: 5 g
Calcium: 50%
Vitamin A: 15%
Iron: 4%
Ingredients: Cultured Pasteurized Grade A Low Fat Milk, Sugar, Strawberries, Modified Corn Starch, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Nonfat Milk, Kosher Gelatin, Citric Acid, Tricalcium Phosphate, Natural Flavor, Pectin, Colored with Carmine, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3.
Plain Greek Yogurt with 1/2 cup strawberries:
Calories: 100 + 24 = 124
Fat: 0
Sat Fat: 0
Sodium: 65 mg
Potassium: 230 + 116 = 346 mg
Carbs: 7 +6 = 13 g
Fiber : 2 g
Sugars:7 +4 = 11 g
Protein: 18 + 1 = 19 g
Calcium: 20 + 1 = 21%
Vitamin A: 0%
Iron: 2%
Vitamin C: 74%
Ingredients: Grade A Pasteurized Skimmed Milk, Live Active Yogurt Cultures, Strawberries
Just an example! Like I said, look into it and make your own decisions.
That is a pretty sizeable difference.... think i'll try it your way! LOL0 -
the clean food myth is such bs. I eat out several times per week, eat chocolate, etc etc etc. Yeah it's healthier to eat "clean" foods but as far as body composition it doesn't matter
its a choice, not a requirement.
do i feel better when i eat cleaner? yes.
do i have more energy when i cleaner? yes.
do i lose weight easier when i eat cleaner? yes.
can i not eat clean and still lose weight? yes.
it is a choice that needs to be banished.
lmao to each their own but it's never going to be banished. too bad. so sad. :laugh: clean eaters FTW!
hahah!0 -
check out this site for a clean eating grocery list very helpful
http://www.eatcleandiet.com/uploaded_files/downloads/ecd_grocery_list.pdf
awesome! Thank you!0 -
They're regulated by the FDA and in small amounts like you are getting, there's no issue.
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart. They're the ones that approve drugs that have serious side effects such as fatal events (really?) TB (WTF?) "Uncontrollable muscle spasms that can become permanent" (WOW!) They also want to regulate vitamins and make them available by prescription only so those multi vitamins, COQ10 and Fish Oil that you take and can get at the supermarket won't be available unless you have a prescription.
Yes. The FDA clearly knows what they're talking about. :grumble:0 -
Bumping to read when I get home from work (Sorry for those who hate bumping but this is too long to get read without getting caught) :blushing:0
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They're regulated by the FDA and in small amounts like you are getting, there's no issue.
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart. They're the ones that approve drugs that have serious side effects such as fatal events (really?) TB (WTF?) "Uncontrollable muscle spasms that can become permanent" (WOW!) They also want to regulate vitamins and make them available by prescription only so those multi vitamins, COQ10 and Fish Oil that you take and can get at the supermarket won't be available unless you have a prescription.
Yes. The FDA clearly knows what they're talking about. :grumble:
No kidding! Have you heard about the new weight loss medication they're about to release?0 -
Bumping to read when I get home from work (Sorry for those who hate bumping but this is too long to get read without getting caught) :blushing:
Totally fine! It's a long read, but a good one!0 -
wow, you're really angsty, aren't you?
no, just sick and tired of hearing clean food is great when it is a bunch of crap
so, you're basically saying that eating healthier food is a load of sh-t.
wow. what planet are you from?
It is.
Food is a source of macro and micronutrients. No source is better than any other. It is just food. Meet your calorie goal, eat enough protein, and eat enough vitamins to not develop a deficiency; as long as you aren't allergic ot any component and it is satisfying, every single thing you ate to conglomerate into the whole is as healthy as every other thing.
Only an overall diet can be labeled healthy or unhealthy, the individual components of the diet are health neutral, neither healthy nor unhealthy. Just food.0 -
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart.
Contrary to what you may have heard on TV or read on some dude's blog, the government is not just a bunch of crooks with the interests of big business in mind as they look to screw people at every turn possible, in an effort to extract maximum cash from your pockets.
And businesses in general would like to do as much for their customers as possible, after all happy customers are repeat customers. Killing off or otherwise making your customer base unhealthy is not a wise course of action if you wish to stay in business.
You can always find a conspiracy theory if you are looking for one and want there to be one. No matter how much the theory is a load of crap, a herd of people with confirmation bias will make any conspiracy real. (heck look at the whole birther thing, that situation was comical, especially if you step back and look at the why behind it, it was obviously utter nonsense, but a huge herd of people wanted it to be real, so confirmation bias made it so)0 -
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart.
Contrary to what you may have heard on TV or read on some dude's blog, the government is not just a bunch of crooks with the interests of big business in mind as they look to screw people at every turn possible, in an effort to extract maximum cash from your pockets.
And businesses in general would like to do as much for their customers as possible, after all happy customers are repeat customers. Killing off or otherwise making your customer base unhealthy is not a wise course of action if you wish to stay in business.
You can always find a conspiracy theory if you are looking for one and want there to be one. No matter how much the theory is a load of crap, a herd of people with confirmation bias will make any conspiracy real. (heck look at the whole birther thing, that situation was comical, especially if you step back and look at the why behind it, it was obviously utter nonsense, but a huge herd of people wanted it to be real, so confirmation bias made it so)
Have you ever LISTENED to the ads for the new drugs that the FDA approves? And you're ok with the fact that the side effects are probably worse than the condition itself? You're ok knowing that a drug that the FDA deemed to be good enough to make might cause you to die? You're ok with the fact that they want to regulate HERBAL supplements that aren't bad for you and cause no side effects because they aren't getting kick backs or money from the companies that produce them?
I would much rather look into natural alternatives than to take a drug that does this to me:
should not be used right before or after certain heart surgeries.
Serious skin reactions, or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers.
Tell your doctor if you have:
A history of ulcers or bleeding in the stomach or intestines
High blood pressure or heart failure
Kidney or liver problems
XXXXXshould not be taken in late pregnancy.
Do not take XXXXX if you’ve had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergic reactions to aspirin, any other NSAID medicine or certain drugs called sulfonamides.
Life threatening allergic reactions can occur with XXXXXXX. Get help right away if you’ve had swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing.
Prescription XXXXXX should be used exactly as prescribed at the lowest dose possible and for the shortest time needed.
And this one was for rheumatoid arthritis! If a person does their home work they can find proven, natural alternatives with zero side effects to help with a lot of the diseases out there and not have to worry about a "fatal event, intestinal bleeding, ulcer, heart attack, stroke . . . ."0 -
No, but I can only imagine what the side effects are.They're regulated by the FDA and in small amounts like you are getting, there's no issue.
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart. They're the ones that approve drugs that have serious side effects such as fatal events (really?) TB (WTF?) "Uncontrollable muscle spasms that can become permanent" (WOW!) They also want to regulate vitamins and make them available by prescription only so those multi vitamins, COQ10 and Fish Oil that you take and can get at the supermarket won't be available unless you have a prescription.
Yes. The FDA clearly knows what they're talking about. :grumble:
No kidding! Have you heard about the new weight loss medication they're about to release?0 -
Food is a source of macro and micronutrients. No source is better than any other. It is just food. Meet your calorie goal, eat enough protein, and eat enough vitamins to not develop a deficiency; as long as you aren't allergic ot any component and it is satisfying, every single thing you ate to conglomerate into the whole is as healthy as every other thing.
Only an overall diet can be labeled healthy or unhealthy, the individual components of the diet are health neutral, neither healthy nor unhealthy. Just food.
All of that is not exactly true. While it is true on an individual level that the overall diet needs to be looked at to be labelled healthy or unhealthy. There certainly are foods that have a better overall nutrition "package" than others, making them more healthy in the general sense.
For example, if a food helps you meet your protein goal and provides 3 vitamins otherwise lacking in your diet, but also raises your blood pressure, I think most people would consider that less healthy than another food that also meets your protein goal, provides the same 3 vitamins and does not raise your BP.0 -
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart.
Contrary to what you may have heard on TV or read on some dude's blog, the government is not just a bunch of crooks with the interests of big business in mind as they look to screw people at every turn possible, in an effort to extract maximum cash from your pockets.
And businesses in general would like to do as much for their customers as possible, after all happy customers are repeat customers. Killing off or otherwise making your customer base unhealthy is not a wise course of action if you wish to stay in business.
You can always find a conspiracy theory if you are looking for one and want there to be one. No matter how much the theory is a load of crap, a herd of people with confirmation bias will make any conspiracy real. (heck look at the whole birther thing, that situation was comical, especially if you step back and look at the why behind it, it was obviously utter nonsense, but a huge herd of people wanted it to be real, so confirmation bias made it so)
Have you ever LISTENED to the ads for the new drugs that the FDA approves? And you're ok with the fact that the side effects are probably worse than the condition itself? You're ok knowing that a drug that the FDA deemed to be good enough to make might cause you to die? You're ok with the fact that they want to regulate HERBAL supplements that aren't bad for you and cause no side effects because they aren't getting kick backs or money from the companies that produce them?
I would much rather look into natural alternatives than to take a drug that does this to me:
should not be used right before or after certain heart surgeries.
Serious skin reactions, or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers.
Tell your doctor if you have:
A history of ulcers or bleeding in the stomach or intestines
High blood pressure or heart failure
Kidney or liver problems
XXXXXshould not be taken in late pregnancy.
Do not take XXXXX if you’ve had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergic reactions to aspirin, any other NSAID medicine or certain drugs called sulfonamides.
Life threatening allergic reactions can occur with XXXXXXX. Get help right away if you’ve had swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing.
Prescription XXXXXX should be used exactly as prescribed at the lowest dose possible and for the shortest time needed.
And this one was for rheumatoid arthritis! If a person does their home work they can find proven, natural alternatives with zero side effects to help with a lot of the diseases out there and not have to worry about a "fatal event, intestinal bleeding, ulcer, heart attack, stroke . . . ."
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not take this product if you are pregnant or nursing. ... ...
^ Guess what that is on the label of?0 -
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart.
Contrary to what you may have heard on TV or read on some dude's blog, the government is not just a bunch of crooks with the interests of big business in mind as they look to screw people at every turn possible, in an effort to extract maximum cash from your pockets.
And businesses in general would like to do as much for their customers as possible, after all happy customers are repeat customers. Killing off or otherwise making your customer base unhealthy is not a wise course of action if you wish to stay in business.
You can always find a conspiracy theory if you are looking for one and want there to be one. No matter how much the theory is a load of crap, a herd of people with confirmation bias will make any conspiracy real. (heck look at the whole birther thing, that situation was comical, especially if you step back and look at the why behind it, it was obviously utter nonsense, but a huge herd of people wanted it to be real, so confirmation bias made it so)
Have you ever LISTENED to the ads for the new drugs that the FDA approves? And you're ok with the fact that the side effects are probably worse than the condition itself? You're ok knowing that a drug that the FDA deemed to be good enough to make might cause you to die? You're ok with the fact that they want to regulate HERBAL supplements that aren't bad for you and cause no side effects because they aren't getting kick backs or money from the companies that produce them?
I would much rather look into natural alternatives than to take a drug that does this to me:
should not be used right before or after certain heart surgeries.
Serious skin reactions, or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers.
Tell your doctor if you have:
A history of ulcers or bleeding in the stomach or intestines
High blood pressure or heart failure
Kidney or liver problems
XXXXXshould not be taken in late pregnancy.
Do not take XXXXX if you’ve had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergic reactions to aspirin, any other NSAID medicine or certain drugs called sulfonamides.
Life threatening allergic reactions can occur with XXXXXXX. Get help right away if you’ve had swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing.
Prescription XXXXXX should be used exactly as prescribed at the lowest dose possible and for the shortest time needed.
And this one was for rheumatoid arthritis! If a person does their home work they can find proven, natural alternatives with zero side effects to help with a lot of the diseases out there and not have to worry about a "fatal event, intestinal bleeding, ulcer, heart attack, stroke . . . ."
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not take this product if you are pregnant or nursing. ... ...
^ Guess what that is on the label of?
Pretty much everything.0 -
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart.
Contrary to what you may have heard on TV or read on some dude's blog, the government is not just a bunch of crooks with the interests of big business in mind as they look to screw people at every turn possible, in an effort to extract maximum cash from your pockets.
And businesses in general would like to do as much for their customers as possible, after all happy customers are repeat customers. Killing off or otherwise making your customer base unhealthy is not a wise course of action if you wish to stay in business.
You can always find a conspiracy theory if you are looking for one and want there to be one. No matter how much the theory is a load of crap, a herd of people with confirmation bias will make any conspiracy real. (heck look at the whole birther thing, that situation was comical, especially if you step back and look at the why behind it, it was obviously utter nonsense, but a huge herd of people wanted it to be real, so confirmation bias made it so)
Have you ever LISTENED to the ads for the new drugs that the FDA approves? And you're ok with the fact that the side effects are probably worse than the condition itself? You're ok knowing that a drug that the FDA deemed to be good enough to make might cause you to die? You're ok with the fact that they want to regulate HERBAL supplements that aren't bad for you and cause no side effects because they aren't getting kick backs or money from the companies that produce them?
I would much rather look into natural alternatives than to take a drug that does this to me:
should not be used right before or after certain heart surgeries.
Serious skin reactions, or stomach and intestine problems such as bleeding and ulcers, can occur without warning and may cause death. Patients taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers.
Tell your doctor if you have:
A history of ulcers or bleeding in the stomach or intestines
High blood pressure or heart failure
Kidney or liver problems
XXXXXshould not be taken in late pregnancy.
Do not take XXXXX if you’ve had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergic reactions to aspirin, any other NSAID medicine or certain drugs called sulfonamides.
Life threatening allergic reactions can occur with XXXXXXX. Get help right away if you’ve had swelling of the face or throat or trouble breathing.
Prescription XXXXXX should be used exactly as prescribed at the lowest dose possible and for the shortest time needed.
And this one was for rheumatoid arthritis! If a person does their home work they can find proven, natural alternatives with zero side effects to help with a lot of the diseases out there and not have to worry about a "fatal event, intestinal bleeding, ulcer, heart attack, stroke . . . ."
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not take this product if you are pregnant or nursing. ... ...
^ Guess what that is on the label of?
Pretty much everything.
All natural fish oil pills, ahhhhhh, freak out0 -
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not take this product if you are pregnant or nursing. ... ...
^ Guess what that is on the label of?Pretty much everything.All natural fish oil pills, ahhhhhh, freak out
Mine don't have that warning on them.
*edited because I hate drawing out long quotes*0 -
No, but I can only imagine what the side effects are.They're regulated by the FDA and in small amounts like you are getting, there's no issue.
Yes. Because the FDA clearly has everyone's "best interests" at heart. They're the ones that approve drugs that have serious side effects such as fatal events (really?) TB (WTF?) "Uncontrollable muscle spasms that can become permanent" (WOW!) They also want to regulate vitamins and make them available by prescription only so those multi vitamins, COQ10 and Fish Oil that you take and can get at the supermarket won't be available unless you have a prescription.
Yes. The FDA clearly knows what they're talking about. :grumble:
No kidding! Have you heard about the new weight loss medication they're about to release?
Here's one article.... enjoy *sarcasm overload*
2 New Weight-Loss Drugs Won't Reverse U.S. Obesity Crisis
By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter | HealthDay – Thu, Jul 19, 2012Share2EmailPrintTHURSDAY, July 19 (HealthDay News) -- The U.S. Food and Drug Administration's approval of two new weight-loss drugs within the past month -- the first such medications in 13 years -- won't be a panacea for America's obesity epidemic, health professionals say.
And as the FDA's drug regulators reiterated when approving the two drugs, Qysmia and Belviq, no weight-loss medication should be used without also making lifestyle changes to facilitate weight loss.
"The bottom line is there's no such thing as a magic pill and I hope that individuals do not think by taking this pill that it will ensure long-term weight loss," said Keri Gans, a registered dietitian in New York City. "We need to be reminded that diet and exercise are still critical."
Qysmia, formerly called Qnexa, was approved on Tuesday and is a combination of the weight-loss drug phentermine (brand name Adipex-P, among others) and the anti-seizure medication Topamax (topiramate).
It is only approved for people who are obese (a body mass index, or BMI, of 30 or above) or overweight people (BMI of 27 or higher) and who also suffer from conditions such as high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes or high cholesterol.
Phentermine once was prescribed widely as the "phen" part of the fen-phen weight-loss drug, which was withdrawn from the market in 1997 after it was linked to both high blood pressure in the lungs and heart valve disease. The problems appeared to be related to the "fen," or fenfluramine, part of the combination, not the phentermine.
Qsymia was initially denied FDA approval in 2010 because of potential side effects, including heart palpitations and birth defects -- such as cleft lip in babies -- if taken by pregnant women.
Phentermine is believed to work by controlling appetite and Topamax by speeding up metabolism.
But Topamax also has side effects, including, possibly, numbness in the arms and legs, said Dr. Michael Aziz, an internist at Lenox Hill Hospital, in New York City, who added that having two drugs together could compound the side effects.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is stressing that Qsymia not be used by pregnant women. Nor should it be taken by people who have had a recent stroke or unstable heart disease as it can speed up heart rate. Neither should it be taken by people with glaucoma or hyperthyroidism.
And the drug can only be sold via specially certified drug stores.
"The concern is with it being overprescribed," Gans said. "There's the concern that too many people may have access to it when they simply need to make diet modifications and not look for some magic solutions."
The second drug approved in the last month was Belviq (lorcaserin), also for obese adults who have high blood pressure, high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes.
Belviq seems to work by controlling appetite, Aziz said, but in trials it produced limited weight loss.
Belviq may cause serious side effects, including "serotonin syndrome," particularly when taken with certain medicines that increase serotonin levels or activate serotonin receptors, such as drugs used to treat depression and migraine. The drug may also cause problems with attention or memory, the FDA said.
Other common side effects of Belviq in non-diabetic patients include headache, dizziness, fatigue, nausea, dry mouth, and constipation. In patients with diabetes, side effects can include low blood sugar, headache, back pain, cough and fatigue, the FDA said.
The cost of the drug is relatively modest, at least compared to other medications on the market, and may range between $100 and $200 for a month's supply, Aziz said.
But neither drug, despite the splash they've made in the news, is likely to make a significant dent in America's obesity crisis, with two-thirds of the population either overweight or obese.
"The problem that all the drug companies are overlooking is the fact that obesity is really multi-factorial," Aziz said. "It's not only related to diet and exercise but also to hormonal imbalances, stress and lack of sleep."0 -
WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not take this product if you are pregnant or nursing. ... ...
^ Guess what that is on the label of?
Pretty much everything.
All natural fish oil pills, ahhhhhh, freak out
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Mine don't have that warning on them.
*edited because I hate drawing out long quotes*
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See Prop 65 in CA0 -
Have you ever LISTENED to the ads for the new drugs that the FDA approves? And you're ok with the fact that the side effects are probably worse than the condition itself? You're ok knowing that a drug that the FDA deemed to be good enough to make might cause you to die? You're ok with the fact that they want to regulate HERBAL supplements that aren't bad for you and cause no side effects because they aren't getting kick backs or money from the companies that produce them?
The side effects that are worse than the condition itself are rare. It's your choice to determine whether or not you want to take that risk, but the FDA still needs to inform consumers of possible side effects. This is a common practice not just limited to the FDA. For example, when I got my wisdom teeth removed, I was informed there could be rare but life threatening complications during surgery. But I was willing to take that risk to avoid having my wisdom teeth come at an angle, as it showed they would do by x-ray, and misalign all my other teeth.0 -
clean foods are a myth. calories in and calories out is what counts to lose weight.
Twinkie Diet: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
just my two cents.
What about health? It is not determined by weight, it is determined by the nutrients you consume!0
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