H1N1 Shots
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this vaccine exists for a reason and the people who have decided this are much smarter than the general public that are indoctrinated by the media, and have obviously come to the conclusion that the benefits outweigh the side effects (if any).
"if any"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8riAeGh48U&feature=player_embedded
The media and the big pharmaceuticals are the ones trying to scare the public into getting the shots. No thanks, I can think for myself.
I'm sorry but the fact that I was directed to Youtube proves my point. I guess we all just do what we think is best.
Did you go to it? It's a clip from a news article...not a song video or a video of a guy falling off of a treadmill or a monkey throwing poo. It was information. yes we all do what we think is best, but she was just sharing VALID information.0 -
shannon always shares good info so you may want to check it out before doggin her about the source.0
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this vaccine exists for a reason and the people who have decided this are much smarter than the general public that are indoctrinated by the media, and have obviously come to the conclusion that the benefits outweigh the side effects (if any).
"if any"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8riAeGh48U&feature=player_embedded
The media and the big pharmaceuticals are the ones trying to scare the public into getting the shots. No thanks, I can think for myself.
I'm sorry but the fact that I was directed to Youtube proves my point. I guess we all just do what we think is best.
Did you go to it? It's a clip from a news article...not a song video or a video of a guy falling off of a treadmill or a monkey throwing poo. It was information. yes we all do what we think is best, but she was just sharing VALID information.
yes I did go to it and sure its information-from one person-you sure don't hear about the 23 year old women who died from H1N1 earlier this month in a city about 2 hours away from me on youtube and you don't hear about 2/3 of our schools being closed this past week.0 -
That clip is so sad! This is the second time I have seen it. Last time was with a different news channel. I know they say side effects are rare but ya know you never know when you might be that one in a million! I used to vaccinate my kids until my one daughter started getting bad food allergies and my son was healthy and normal boy and got him vaccinated had some side effects and now suffers from autism. I am not looking for information about vaccinations and autism and it not being linked. I just know how it happened with my son. You never know when you are going to have a problem. Just like when you take these shots there is no 100% promise you will not end up sick anyway.
BMAJK- Yes we do hear about those things on the news. I think it is just the opposite you don't hear about the hundreds of people that have had the H1N1 and even though they were very sick made it through!0 -
My cousin and his 3 sons just got over H1N1. He did not get vaccinated, neither did his kids.
The doctors assured them not to panic. They told him that the media has everybody freakin out all over the place, but its really not half as bad as they are saying it is.
They felt crappy for a few days, high fever, cough, chills, etc. They felt like they had the flu. They rested, took care of one another and stayed indoors until the fever was gone. Everybody is fine now and back to normal and it was less than 10 days.
I understand that people die from this. I'm not making lite of that. I'm just saying that a vaccine isn't the godsend everyone thinks it is. Just because you haven't heard of many adverse reactions, doesn't mean they don't exist. How many people took Vioxx -myself included- before it was finally revealed to be causing more harm than good? The government is NOT perfect, just because someone has a degree from an ivy league school does not mean they have YOUR best interest at heart. And just because they say everyone needs it, doesn't make that gospel. People do profit from things like this, and its usually not the public.
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"if any"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8riAeGh48U&feature=player_embedded
The media and the big pharmaceuticals are the ones trying to scare the public into getting the shots. No thanks, I can think for myself.
Shannon, I totally agree with you. I will never get the flu shot.
The big pharmaceuticals are also receiving all the money. When people need medicine after getting a flu shot.
A guy from work sent me this interview with Ex Health minister of Finland. But
it's on Youtube.
She had quite an opinion about America and Pharmaceutical companies regarding swine flu, the flu shot etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgyakGAddM
P.S. The text in this video is not in english. Her interview is in english.0 -
I am an adult with a three year old. And all I have to say is that myself nor my child is getting the shot. I am not going to panic like the gov't wants me to!:ohwell:0
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I am an adult with a three year old. And all I have to say is that myself nor my child is getting the shot. I am not going to panic like the gov't wants me to!:ohwell:
Thank you! that is exactly what is going on is a fear tactic. Yes, it can be deadly, but all flus are, yes it is more likely to kill a young person than an older person and for MOST people it will present and recover just like any flu would. If anyone in my family were in the RISK groups I would give the shot a greater consideration but without those risks the need for teh shot is little to none. Like I said earlier learning how to and teaching your family how to PREVENT is the best thing we can do for ourselves, our family and our schools and communities.
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I am an adult with a three year old. And all I have to say is that myself nor my child is getting the shot. I am not going to panic like the gov't wants me to!:ohwell:
Thank you! that is exactly what is going on is a fear tactic. Yes, it can be deadly, but all flus are, yes it is more likely to kill a young person than an older person and for MOST people it will present and recover just like any flu would. If anyone in my family were in the RISK groups I would give the shot a greater consideration but without those risks the need for teh shot is little to none. Like I said earlier learning how to and teaching your family how to PREVENT is the best thing we can do for ourselves, our family and our schools and communities.
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I totally agree with you 1000 percent!0 -
got my seasonal flu shot and my H1N1 today-0
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My youngest daughter tested positive for H1N1 a couple of weeks ago its wasn't cool at all she spiked a nasty fever that wouldnt break the lowest we could get it was 102.2 (after medicine) We have to give her cool baths to keep her temp down she wouldn't eat all we could do is get her to try and drink liquids which she ended up throwing up finally by day 4 her fever finally broke to 101 and stayed there for 2 more days with medicine it was horrible my husband was out of work a week- (yes she went to to the doctor)
Yes the swine flu is over dramatized but I still got my shot My kids still got there flu shots.
My husband is in the army and gets all the vaccinations Anthrax ect.
People die from the flu every year. Every seasons flu shot is different because there is a different strain every year.
Alot of the deaths due to Swine are because of pre-existing conditions.
It isn't a mandatory shot its your choice if you don't want to get it don't
The H1N1 is a different virus because you breath it in unlike just catching the common cold from touching your eyes,nose and mouth (thats why they say wash your hands)
My kids wash there hands all the time and use hand sanitizer and yet my daughter got sick. because its in the air in your nasal passage0 -
Someone I work with (man in early 40's) just returned to work after a bout of what his dr. said was Swine flu. I don't know if he was tested or not to be sure. One thing the doctor said was that the biggest danger with this "bug" is that after you get it, it can so easily turn in to a respiratory illness, which is especially dangerous to those who are prone to asthma, bronchitis or pneumonia.
Everyone has their own "take" on whether getting a shot is a good idea, but I think we can all agree that good habits of cleanliness and taking precautions if someone in your family is sick are all very GOOD ideas to avoid spreading it. I have a friend who fits into the category I described in the first paragraph, and I am offering to do her shopping and errands for her just so she won't have to go out and expose herself to others. She hasn't been able to get either flu shot so far.
I did get a seasonal flu shot, for which I am glad because there doesn't seem to be any vaccine available locally now. I am not considering getting the H1N1 vaccine unless it is in shot form, and so far, it is in short supply in my area (Washington/Oregon)0 -
good information. I'm undecided on what to do. My son is 5 and does have a compromised immune system because he has asthma and takes regular nebulizer treatments. He would be very ill if he gets the flu. I'm scared about the shot because it caused neurological problems in people who received it during the last swine flu breakout. Currently we don't have the shot available here-but when it comes I want to make an educated decision.ok here's my take.. AFter my son was diagnosed with H1N1 his pediatrician asked a series of questions. After answering those questions she did not prescribed tamaflu because my son nor anyone in my household are considered "at risk". These questions asked if anyone had asthma or diabetes or a "compromised immune system", NO. Anyone in the house under teh age of 2...NO. Anyone pregnant? NO. She said these are the people most at risk of having major complications. My cousin is a prime example, lifelong asthmatic and she ended up in the hospital with pnemonia which turned out to be respiratory complications of H1N1 and she is ok.
Dr. did not recommend nasal vaccination, as for most people to gain immunity they will have to take two doses several weeks apart. She did recommend vaccination in shot form if we chose.
Stated the CDC has pushed the media to tell the bad that can happen so that more people will worry and hopefully try to educate their family on HOW TO PREVENT this flu.
this flu is so contagious because of how it presents and that is why PREVENTION is so important. My son woke up on a Monday with a sore throat, it is his allergy season and since NO fever we sent him to school. He came home from school at 3pm with a barky cough and a fever of 100. If your children have ever had croup that is EXACTLY what the cough sounds like. Took him to pediatrician Tues to confirm croup, did rapid flu test and wala. He had a fever until thursday midday and was fine by Friday, didn't return to school until the following monday to allow 24 hours with no fever. He had a very mild attack of diahrea on Wednesday and other than the cough it was a very normal flu cycle.
No one else in our family got sick because we made him wear a mask until his cough was gone and we washed and sanitized our hands like crazy and used sanitizing wipes on all surfaces. The mask worked great for him. If your kids are in or your family has a member in the "at risk" group then you should probably consider getting everyone vaccinated if not, start preventing!
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Well I'm back. Since my post on here, my son got quite ill for several days (thankfully recovering now) and they closed his school today because more than half the kids are out ill and I found out the girl he sits right next to has tested positive for H1N1. But I'm also hearing from the dr that just because its a positive on the swab test doesnt mean its Swine flu...could be any number of other flus that cause a positive read on the quick test.
My best friend is an RN and she came out today and told me knowing what she knows, if she had kids she would definately NOT allow them to be vaccinated. She said in her op. its too new and was rushed thru approval to fast to know for sure its safe.
Now I dont know what to do for my son....its so hard to separate fact from media hype either for or against it.
I told that to the doctor at my job and she said every flu shot is rushed and that isn't a reason not to get it.
My kids get the flu shot every year0 -
H1N1 just killed a healthy 13 year old boy in Ontario. He had seen a doctor about 48 hours before, and told he had the flu, and sent home. There have been 29 confirmed deaths from H1N1 in Ontario since April.
Symtoms to watch out for: fever, difficulty breathing, blue lips, difficulty moving, drowsiness, confusion, disorientation, and convulsions. In younger children- crankiness, refusing fluids.0 -
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Yep, my home town. I'm keepin an eye in the news about this. Very sad! It seemed to have happened so fast. The doctor at the clinic. :explode:
Toronto's two major newspapers
www.torontosun.com
www.thestar.com
This link from the article in The Toronto Star.
http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/716657--h1n1-clinics-to-open-early-in-wake-of-teen-s-death?bn=1Younger people are more impacted with the burden of illness, but those most likely to die are older, and most have pre-existing conditions. Frustaglio had a mild case of asthma, health authorities said.0 -
Tuscan Sun- In our state we have free clinics for flu shots every year. It's usually done by a public not for profit hospital. Check around in your area to see if you can get one for free.
I got the regular flu shot already and I will have my kids get one this year too. One has allergies and one has asthma, so I think they should start getting them every year.
As far as the H1N1 goes- we aren't going to get enough to go around and they are doing all the high risk people first, so deciding may be a non issue.
We have the flu already, but the shots/mist is still a month away.
I agree with the comments the shots are new every year. This one is no different.0 -
My son got the H1N1 vaccination today. His pediatrician recommended it because he is 5 and has respiratory issues-asthma-and uses a nebulizer frequently. (I read that the last vaccine used during the last swine flu outbreak caused neurological problems so that was my fear.) But our community has a bad outbreak of H1N1 and I knew if my son got it he would be very sick and could possibly die. The vaccinations in our area are also limited and only the people with compromised immune systems are able to get them. I pray he stays healthy and that we made the correct decision.0
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H1N1 is serious, but no need to panic.
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/717085Consider the facts.
According to the World Health Organization, fewer than 5,000 people have died around the globe from this variant of swine flu. In any normal year, influenza causes between 250,000 and 500,000 deaths worldwide.
In the Southern Hemisphere, the winter flu season is now over. In spite of dire predictions, only 185 people died from swine flu in Australia – considerably fewer than the roughly 3,000 who succumb to seasonal influenza in that country each year.
And no, it wasn't because the population was immunized. Australia's vaccination campaign against swine flu took off last month.
Last week, U.S. President Barack Obama declared swine flu a national emergency after about 1,000 Americans died. Yet according to the Centers for Disease Control, roughly 50,000 Americans die every year from seasonal flu – without any politician paying much attention0 -
We are not getting either flu shot. We never get the seasonal flu shot and the H1N1 just freaks me out a bit. I think it was thrown together to quickly and after the neurological side effects from the flu shot in the 70's, I'm passing on this one .0
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H1N1 shot is made no differently than the seasonal flu shot, just a different strain of virus. If they had been on the ball it could have been included in with the seasonal flu shot thus saving us from getting two shots. I bet they do this next year.0
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Just got my H1N1 nasal mist vaccine today. The university gave it to all the health science students for free. I'm glad I got there early....there were tons of people! Wahoo for no H1N1...I don't have time to be getting that nasty virus!0
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Why would a health care professional tell someone to NOT get the vaccine? That is just ludicrous. Unless you have Guillan Barre or are allergic to eggs, there is little risk for getting the shot. You do not get the flu from getting a flu shot, and this H1N1 vaccine is made the exact same way as all the other flu shots (just with different strains). The viruses are dead, and they cannot come back to life in your body. If anything, you might feel a little down because of an immune system response to a foreign particle in the body, which is a good thing and ensures that you won't get the swine flu this year. I know this because I am in medical school and we just learned about this in class.
It is true that people over over 50 I think do not need the shot because they have antibodies from a H1N1 epidemic that happened in the 1920s. H1N1 is not new...the media has just made such a huge deal about it that everyone is now freaking out :grumble:
I am definitely getting the shot...I'm not banking on herd immunity and I don't want to get really sick or die just because I didn't get the shot. Someone in my class has already had it and he was out of class for a week (which is like being out for a month in my class). Please people....get the shot!
The epidemic that happened in the 1920's would make those people well into their 80s. My just turned 56 and he was born in 1953............
So there are people over the age of 50 that need the shot just like the rest of us..........0 -
My doctor told me that the H1N1 virus was last seen in the 70s so if you were around then, you probably have antibodies for it already. The vaccine is more for younger people who have not been exposed because they were not alive in the 70s. Usually, they encourage older and the elderly people to get the flu shots, but in this case they are calling it a young person's flu, because that seems to be who is having the most trouble with it. So he recommended the regular seasonal flu shot for me, which I got. I don't want to get sick, don't have the time.0
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Prevent Swine Flu - Good Advice
Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital , Bombay Hospital , Saifee Hospital , Tata Memorial etc... Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).
The following message given by him, I feel makes a lot of sense and is important for all to know
The only portals of entry are the nostrils, mouth & throat.
In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1
in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced:
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water.
*Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti to clean nasal cavities, but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.
6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.0 -
Thats an awesome article! Same stuff I do every year and my daughter and I haven't had more than sniffles in the past 5-6 years!0
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If you (or your children) are over 49 or under 2 years of age, the shot version of the vaccine is the only option. It does not have live virus in it. Also, those with chronic medical conditions, regardless of age, should only get the injection. My place of employment currently is giving the nasal version to all others. The injection is not yet available. Makes me glad I don't have an option on which to get. I don't like live virus vaccines, even though they are supposed to be more effective. They also generally have a higher risk of adverse reactions in my opinion.0
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The vaccines are NOT aprpoved by the FDA.
Little testing has been done on the H1N1 vaccine, definately no long term testing.
Why would I want to put a live virus in my system, because the government said so. :noway:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026473_the_FDA_H1N1_natural_products.html
The message is crystal clear: No product may be described as protecting against or preventing H1N1 infections unless it is approved by the FDA. And which products has the FDA approved? Tamiflu (the anti-viral drug that most people will never have access to), and soon the new H1N1 vaccine that's being manufactured at a cost of one billion dollars (paid to Big Pharma by the taxpayers). This vaccine, of course, will be utterly useless because H1N1 will undoubtedly mutate between now and the time the vaccine is ready, rendering the vaccine useless.
In other words, according to the tyrants at the FDA, the only products that may be marketed alongside the term "H1N1" are those products that either don't work or aren't available to most people. Anything that really works to prevent influenza infections -- such as natural anti-virals, medicinal herbs, etc. -- is banned from even mentioning H1N1 without the threat of being criminally prosecuted.
http://swineflushot.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/h1n1-vaccine-with-mercury-and-squalene-pushed-on-pregnant-women/It’s getting crazy out there. New revelations about the novel H1N1 vaccine are raising more questions than ever about its safety while there’s a new drive to push shots of the stuff as quickly as possible on perfectly healthy pregnant women. That means the most vulnerable of all — unborn children — will be exposed to a little-tested vaccine.To top it off, now comes word out of the FDA’s Vaccine and Related Biologic Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) meeting held on July 23rd that the H1N1 vaccine is going to be laced with the mercury containing preservative thimerosal. That’s right, the same thimerosal that was banned in influenza vaccines in California and several other states starting in 2004. The reason? The mercury-laden toxin has been linked to a number of health concerns — including worries thimerosal caused or contributed to the current autism epidemic.0 -
There are new strands of the flu every year and every year new shots are developed. I don't understand the fear of this one. It's just a new strand of the flu that can spread outside of the usual flu season.
I got the regular flu shot but may not get the H1N1 not because I'm afraid of it, but because the quantities are limited and there are lots of high risk people that need it more than I will. I do want my daughter to get is as she is in one of the risk pools.
Thanks for the advice on the Vitamin C. I think I will buy some and start getting us all to take it.
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I was just curious what our US Neighbours were doing as the vaccine is available there already.
I think what concerns me the most is that our children have not been exposed to this flu virus before. I have heard rumors that a version of this virus was going around in the 1980's, has anyone else heard anything to this effect. I tried to google it but couldn't find anything that confirmed this.
I work in the USA in health car in OBSTETRICS--and WE CAN'T GET OUT HANDS ON THE VACCINE where I live! We are now hearing we may not be able to get it until FEBRUARY!! We also have run out of regular vaccine and can't get it! Out of the blue yesterday the hopital sent aroudn a nurse to vaccinate healthcare workerss and Iwas lucky enough to get it---but I don't even know where to send our pregnant girls--and in North Carolina a friend of mine works in ER--they had a 27 year old pregnant girl who died from H1N1--baby lived---funeral was last week. It's not so green either side of the border from the sounds of it---but don't think we have it so easy down here.
By the way Tuscay HEalth Deaprtments give out FREE flu shots and the H1N1 if you are age/medical condition eligible. I understand form my Canadian friends that there are no age restrictions to getting it in Canada---even though you put your seniors on ice floes out ot sea when they are ready to die---lol0
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