WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR AUGUST 2012

bshidler

I have been logging to MFP for almost a year but have not spent time reading message boards or blogs. I found this wonderful board for Women Ages 50+! Yay!!!!! . I am nearing my goal (set over a year ago) and have 8 more pounds to lose. My August goals are to stay on top of my game plan and work hard to reach my final goal within the next few months (it is getting tougher to shed these last few pounds but I can do it!) I want to enjoy the size of clothing I wear now and not worry so much over "what size the tag" says inside my clothing....I'm not 25 years old anymore! I want to remember each day that nothing feels as good as being this healthy and happy! Happy logging and losing to everyone! :happy:

LindaS175

Hi Ladies,

I haven't posted for a few days. I am just too exhausted after work these days. When I sit down to read the posts it is close to midnight. I am doing well.other than not getting out for walks. I need to get to the library, and check out some exercise videos.

Michele - that is a great idea ,about checking out exercise video's from the library. i am going to do that this week!:bigsmile:

Dixie, Thinking of you today, Hugs and strength for you.

Meg- sounds like you had a awesome walk today. I need to get off the couch before I start work in 2 hours, and go for a 30 min walk! :drinker: :drinker:

Barbiecat- guess you having a heat wave! Hope your line dancing venue is air conditioned! :devil: :devil:

Liz, take care of your ankles, elevation above heart level, and ice pack(with cloth barrier against you skin-then ice pack), ice for 20 mins and you can do this 4 times a day.

Amanda- only a few more days until the Olympics are over,,,,soon things will be back to normal. I loved the deer story and how it is related to life, Thanks for sharing!

Welcome to all the new ladies. :drinker: :drinker:

Come here everyday and read the posts,vent and let everyone know your struggles, successes . We can all do this together, one step, one day at a time!

I am going to change my weigh in day to Mondays, and tomorrow do my measurements again. :drinker: :drinker:

So I am going to stop for now, get off the couch and go for a walk,!!! T:drinker: thanks for motivating me.:drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

I will be back tonight, to talk to the rest of you----, have an awesome day to become the best YOU, that you can become!!:drinker: :drinker:

Hugs,Linda SundanceB

janemartin02

Happy Sun.been spending the last 2 days,cleaning and priming our new place.Next week the carpet comes in,hoping to move by next week-end.
So grateful for our friend for giving us a new start in life.More room and daughter can stay in her same school.Tired but glad there is a light at the end of tunnel.
Hope everyone had a good week-end.
Thanks for your love and support.
HUGS
jane

djhobs

Booo the weekend has gone much too fast. I had a somewhat productive day yesterday and then we headed to the lake when dh came home from work. It was stormy up there this am so we did not go kayaking. Lots of reading and laziness but great for recharging. We took the long and much prettier ride home and stopped for a late lunch/early dinner on the way.

This was not a very calories controlled week, but I just saw a 60 minutes segment about the evils of sugar...lot of research still being done but the info is very compelling...I am going to try in August to focus on my sugar consumption and see what changes I can make to limit or at least reduce it...a tall order for a baker with a sweet tooth...time for new hobbies I guess!

Michelle - I use baking powder (about a teaspoon) in a pot of spaghetti sauce...it reduces the acid and brings out the sweetness of the tomatoes (a tip I learned in a Graham Kerr cookbook) ...your pool sounds fabulous..the wait to have it completed would make me crazy but will be worth it!

My kindle battery is dying...so have a good evening..hugs and high fives

Jen

rjadams

:flowerforyou: 8 pages in August already??!! omg. this is going to take me a while to catch up. I am having a wonderful summer. Good weather, lil grandson visits, gardening (actually DH is the gardener, I just get to pick from his labors!). I love where we live. I have been riding my bike to and from work when I can (20 km one way). Not always successful, but at least I am doing something!

Love to all of you lovely ladies!!

P.S. you like the new pic of grandson and me?

you look great Reb. Do you like mine with my DD and Olivia? Glad you stopped by.

Ladies, I don't mean to whine but I am HOT. The PNW is awesome because it rarely gets hot but today is hot. (very humid) too hot to work in the yard. at least we got the paving done in the dog run and started puttng together the dog house before we had to give up.

I will catch up with you all later.

barbiecat

:flowerforyou:
Jake is sort of gone for two weeks being the emergency fill in house sitter for a friend who had a crisis and needed someone to fill in to watch their four black standard poodles and two horses.....he'll be home on and off but sleeping over there. It is over 90 degrees there and he decided to call his friend and ask if it was OK to turn on the air conditioner.....they are so grateful to have him there that they said keep it running as much as he needs to.

:flowerforyou: Today is our Isagenix cleanse day.....it feels different because I'm at home and Jake's at the other house.

:flowerforyou: I watched watching the women's marathon at the Olympics. I have over 17,000 steps on my pedometer but compared to the marathon runners, I feel like a couch potato. The dogs keep asking to go out but it's over 80 degrees here so after a few minutes, they want to come in again. I've worked on my rock project today but after about 30 minutes, I'm too warm and come back in to the air conditioned house.

:flowerforyou: Michele, yes, "Strategy is stronger than willpower" comes from "The Thin Commandments Diet".....what a great book.....if I lived closer, I'd come watch your pool installation....it sounds like great entertainment

:flowerforyou: Dixie, through all the pain, I hope you will be able to stay in moment and relish all the good things

:flowerforyou: rpphillip, three years ago when I started my weight loss journey, I walked the dogs one at a time for about 10 minutes and never walked them together.......little by little I've added time and now my walks are really long....the longest dog walk starts with a single step.

:flowerforyou: Irene, don't allow yourself to get to the computer until you've walked for 10 minutes and had a glass of water....then don't stay at the computer for more than 15 minutes.....start with small goals.

:bigsmile: Meg, glad Benny Beagle is OK......we had a golden retriever who swiped food off the kitchen counter or the table if we left things unsupervised.

:bigsmile: Jane, sounds like good progress on your move......thanks for your inspiring positive outlook on life.

Barbie from NW Washington

August Resolutions:
*walk the dogs for an hour or more every morning
*100 Warrior III poses or squats a day
*17,000 steps a day
* finish the rock project in the yard
*Act the way I want to feel
*Come from a place of love
*Don’t take things personally

cloutcj

Add me to your friends! Turned 59 this year and have the post menopause belly fat, and high cholesterol to boot. Have diabetes in my family also. I need to get the weight down, watch the fat and sugar, and maybe exercise a bit more. (Have IBS which makes exercise an issue.) I spent 1-1/2 years looking for work and gained 10 pounds doing the web search employment bit. Just got a job in June, a contract running until Dec. 28. A new co-worker told me about myfitnesspal, so just joined today. I start my new diet - excuse me - new way of eating with a brand new week. Here we go!:bigsmile:

tsjourney

I'm almost 50, January... Wanted to lose all of this weight by then (don't we all!). Have been doing this since Nov 11 and have lost 34 lbs. Thought I would have lost a lot more by now, but have not put as much effort as I could have, however, I haven't gained any and managed to stay around that loss for a while now. Am struggling this week with sending my son off to college, very difficult for someone who has been a single mom for 15 years! Will need lots of support in the coming days!!! I would like to lose 5 lbs this month and eat a salad a day and drink all of my water. I am visiting my aunt for Thanksgiving and haven't seen her in a few years, would really like to be 210 (I'm 245 now), that is stretching it a bit :-). Thanks for the thread and the encouragement!

edraper70

I'm new to this forum too. I'm 64. I lost about 35 pounds after I started doing zumba 3 hours a week at Curves. Then my weight loss stalled. In June I did Medifast for 2 weeks, but I could not stand to keep that up. Then I found this site and am really happy to be here. Even with going on vacation for a week, I've lost about 3 pounds. I'd like to lose about 15 more.

My August goals would be to start strength training...buy some weights and use them. And continue to log in so I stay on track with eating the proper amount of food.

exermom

hero.... - happy birthday! I swear, August is the worst month for me. No matter what I do, it seems that I retain water like crazy. My ankles will swell up by the end of the night. Right now I'm wearing (talk about old lady) support hose. That's interesting that you are at risk with your fiberoids. I'd never heard that they feed off carbs. That's the understanding I took, anyway. I have a history of fiberadinomas. Best of luck on your goal. You CAN do this, just log in here every day and we'll all help you.

A real big welcome to everyone who is new. I just know you'll love it here.

DeeDee - that's wonderful that you stayed in your goal. How did you do it, any special hints?

Lin - loved your definition of a calorie. Thanks for the smile.

Deb - my skin has toned up somewhat from my loss. However, there is still the skin that was stretched out from being overweight, and nothing I do seems to get rid of that. Oh, I can have surgery, but I'm not that bad. A friend of mine lost a lot of weight thru balanced eating, she did have the surgery to remove the extra skin.

I made some butterscotch cookies to give to the pool workers this month, I'll just put them in the freezer until I need them. Made cheese sausage balls in case we go to Mexican train this Tues. If we go, I can just reheat them. If we don't, I can freeze them. Realized that Jessica will be here Thurs night. I want to made Magic Cookie Bars for the workers so I'm going to do it so that she can take any leftovers home with her.

lorarock - those recipes sound so good, but I don't dare have coconut in the house. Jessica is severly allergic to it, if it's just in the air she has a reactioni to it. I wouldn't take the chance. But those recipes sound amazing

Did I tell you that while we've been cutting the weeds, there's some bug that has been reall biting. Not a mosquito but worse. It iches and iches. Anyway, Vince read on the Internet that to temporarily relive the itching, put a blow dryer on the itch until you can't stand the heat any longer. Seems that the heat will kill off the histamines that cause the itching. It really does work! I was skeptical at first, but figured "what can I lose", and was I amazed. I would guess it works for 4 or 5 hours.

Jen - use baking powder, not baking soda? Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought of that. Thanks

Did an hour of hula hoop on the Wii today. Tomorrow I'll do yoga and then take the extremepump class.

Hope everyone has a great evening. Off to take a shower and then give Loki his med

Michele

jehuster

Hi Everyone! My name is Jeane and I am 51. I just joined MFP this last Tuesday. Thank God I found this posting because I was beginning to think everyone on her was in there 20's and 30's and already skinny. lol I will try to keep up with this forum topic as best I can.

RebelRenny

you look great Reb. Do you like mine with my DD and Olivia? Glad you stopped by.

:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: I do Robin, yes I do!! Been thinking about you, and been lurking. So wonderful to see you enjoy being a grandma.:bigsmile:

Renny

fonitoni

Hello!

I am 55 years young today. It's my birth-day~ My profile pic was taken about a year ago? I was always mistaken as being much younger for my age--I was carded at 40 and all that changed with THE CHANGE


Happy Birthday!!!

LindaS175

Hi Ladies,

I found this info on Web MD. I thought it would be good info to help you all feel more excited about drinking that water! :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

Drinking water, especially before mealtime, helps fill you up and makes you eat less. One study found that adults who drank two cups of water before each meal lost more weight than those who didn't. Some studies show that drinking water, especially chilled water, can increase metabolism and help burn fat.

Water also helps you stay hydrated. When your kidneys are moving water through your body, your water weight is lower.

Now that's a motivating reason to drink that water! Drink up girls!:drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

Tomorrow is weigh in day...Hope the hard work shows! Till tomorrow- Hugs

Linda aka SundanceB

bigpal

you can do it we all can

DeeDee2211

Good morning ladies:flowerforyou:

We are supposed to have rain showers and storms today, could use the rain, not so much the storms, the last storm that came through took out 4 of my trees .
My sweet baby girl Noel is having tummy troubles AGAIN:sad: , the Vet. told me Bichons are prone to pancreatitis, she was pretty good over the weekend, however she was sick this morning. I guess we will visit the Vet. again today. They will probably do a scan this time, I so dread it for her !!!!

Michele , the only tip I have about staying within my calorie goal when I know I'm going out is to eat a rather light lunch, and if I know where I'm going I usually check out the menu before and decide what I'm going to eat. It was very helpful knowing what the couple was planning for dinner Sat. night, so I just planned around it.

Meg what kind of meds. are you giving Benny Beagle? They only give Noel meds. when it flares it up, maybe she should be on something for more than a couple of days. Usually Noel bounces back in a day, and she seemed to be better Friday afternoon after our Vet. visit, and then she decided not to eat on Sat., ate a bit yesterday at lunch but not dinner, had a cracker this morning and then threw it up. One of my friends had to put her Bichon down because she couldn't keep anything down, this scares me.

Welcome to the newbies:flowerforyou: , you've come to the right place for motivation and positive responses!!!!

Hope everyone has a wonderful day!!!! Drink your water :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: , log your food!!!!

Hugs,
DeeDee

bigpal

good morining ladies another week to work on our goals sorry to hear about the pets being sick i hate when my dog get sick everyone drink their water and stay moving slow and steady wins the race ive got the girls at work thinking about their weight now and some of them are changing their eating habits which helps me also they dont bring in the goods and temp me its been raining in ky supoise to today and off and on all week happy logging to all and a good food choice day bye for now carol

NuuuNuuu

Hi everyone. Just coming home from a long trip..... My niece just introduced me to this app last night, just in time for me to get home in a couple of days to get back on the wagon. Lost 40 lb, 3 years ago but regained 20-ugh! I am excited to "take control" again and work on being super healthy as I get older. Just started a new career as an artist after being a mom to 5, a social worker, therapist, and special ed teacher (not all at the same time!!). Husband retired 6 months ago...not blaming him but weight loss is difficult with him at home so much!! He's off on an extended assignment right now so this is a good time to reestablish some good eating habits and pursue my weight loss goals. Have been struggling with lots and lots of major life changes and a bit of depression but looking forward to enjoying to all the good that the changes have brought into our lives. Also looking forward to the hope and encouragement here to help keep me on track. Xoxo

shorty0207

Hi. I have lost 20lbs but have ten to go and I am stuck! I am 51. This site tells me I need to eat 1,200 calories per day, but I think that's too low for me. I will have to step up the exercise! I joined Curves last week (planning on going today) and I walk on the treadmill and do a Wii Zumba tape. Unfortunately, nothing on a regular basis. I'd love to hear any suggestions about how I can keep on track. Thanks!

amiscci

Good morning Ladies! OMG I have 1 lb to go! yay! It was my TOM for last few days and today (!) whoosh (!) I'm almost there!
It's actually 1.5 lbs but who's counting.

I mentioned my "rental daughter" in the past.. we have had girl who was BF with one of my twins in HS living with us for the last year and a half. She'd finished her freshman year at BYU and then came back and decided she didn't want to be Mormon anymore. Parents threw her out, said she was a bad influence on her 3 younger brothers :-((( They were unhappy with me for giving her an "out" but heck, she was already 19-- at some point you need to figure out your path. I just choose to not let her sleep in a car. She's such a good girl too, a daughter to be proud of. They moved back to Utah about 6 months ago so we're now her family. She's gotten herself back into State University here and making a Meredith-shaped impression on my (very nice) couch in (what was) my husband's basement man-cave :-) How can people do that to their kids? People, kiss your kids and cherish them while you can-- this one's a keeper and maybe she'll take care of me when I'm an old lady (that mean's hit the Young and 60 Board at MFP??)

Have a great day!

rpphillip

Good Morning Ladies!:happy: well we got a good rain storm and I know that we been praying for it, and I am happy we got it, but I was not happy:noway: when my air cond. went out. God came through and my cousin Wayne came over and fixed it in about 30 min. he is such a blessing : , the house cooled in no time.:happy: I am at work and it is a short day today so , all in all I guess I can say it is a good morning!!

Be back later must get work done ! have a great day:flowerforyou:

yoyonomore55

amiscci- I always find it hard to understand how any parent could chose not to be supportive of their children no matter what the circumstances. Your "rental daughter" is very fortunate to have you as her family now. So happy for her to have found people to give her a chance to become all she can. It sounds like she is also enriching you lives as well.

yoyonomore55

amiscii= Congrats on the weight loss!:drinker: :drinker:

I am within 10 pounds, but am stuck. Need to get it moving again!

linder4866

Greetings to all -

Another week for us to be successful. Here's to us! :drinker:

Had a busy day yesterday---especially in the early evening when the toilet went crazy and flooded the bathroom. Yepper, that kept me busy for quite a while. The water ran into a heating vent and I have water dripping out onto the basement floor. Hope that didn't hurt anything in my furnace. The water was dripping close to some blue sensors on several heating ducts. I have zone heating in my house so man, if anything is screwed up I see massive $$ flying out the window. Argh.

Time to run. Thanks again for being here!!

Lin

auntiebk

Good morning lovelies!

Found the heart monitor! Bought untold years ago and never used. Dusted it off and now trying to figure out how to change the batteries. A lovely relaxing weekend of puttering but alas not enough steps, way too much rich/sweet food, not enough veggies and ZERO fruit yesterday. Did manage to keep the hooch down to 2 drinks max/day for the first time in a looong time.:drinker:

Tho' a little bored with obsessing over weighing and logging food, I go back to it because it keeps me honest. If I didn't complete the diary by midnight I go back and finish it anyway, good:happy: , bad :devil: or indifferent.:indifferent:

Very bored:frown: with losing and gaining the same 5 lbs over and over for the past year or more, and totally sick of being mad at myself for same. Today I am thankful I've maintained a 21 lb weight loss for over a year and that's how I'm going to look :glasses: at it from now on.

Today I am thankful for a good night's rest, a home untouched by wild fire, electricity/air conditioning and the gals in this forum.

Lin those closet calorie creatures are busy and procreate worse than coat hangers.
Jane and all you ladies with Vitamixes, I am sooo jealous. Last week when our 30+ yr old Osterizer was straining to puree yoghurt, frozen bananas, protein powder and icewater, I let Joe know he could get me a Vitamix for Christmas so he'd have time to save up!:bigsmile:
Gardengail too big clothes to goodwill, and continuing the progress at the Y double feelgood. Congrats!:flowerforyou:
Lora thanks much for the recipe! Soon as the mercury stays below 90 it will be SOUP for lunch!
Meg headache,:sick: unaccustomed early rising, :indifferent: and steep learning curve ahead? Good thing you have such a
great sense of humor! Hope Benny Beagle gets a good report from the vet, and the vet doesn't find out about the bagels and french bread induced carb comas... a dog after my own heart!:laugh:
Liz tell us more about the new fur baby. Sent you an invite to free line dance class, come and check it out even if your ankle isn't up to it yet, its a great group.
RhoRocks "Thank God for MFP and supportive new friends" Amen!
LindaSundance hope you can get some rest, sleep:yawn: is even more important than posting... barely
Jane so happy your daughter's procedure was a success. :flowerforyou: Hope hope everyone in your new home is thankful and supportive of each other, gratitude is so crucial in tough times, wish your DIL knew that... :ohwell:
Jen I just loved the galloping gourmet!
Robin love your 3 gen pic! What a bevy of beauties!
Barbie TWO Weeks? :sad: "... longest dog walk starts with a single step"
Michelle thanks so much for the hair dryer tip. Bites really "bug":mad: me with swelling and itching:explode: , will try that next time.
DeeDee pancreatitis IS scary. :noway: Our Robbie once was so bad he had to spend the weekend at the vets on IV fluids. Sending Nicole calming, hungry thoughts, hoping Vet has good ideas.
amiscii your rental daughter is fortunate to have you, and you are fortunate she is such a keeper. We had to kick our 17 yr old nephew out knowing he'd be sleeping in his car or with his bad-influence friends. :brokenheart: Not over religious choices but over other house rules he couldn't keep (no drugs, no girls in room... and so on)... sometimes it's just the best you can think of at the time. :sad: At the time I thought he would surely die:brokenheart: , the drugs were so bad. Miraculously he straightened himself out and is healthy and relatively happy 13 years later. Not very well employed but alive and out of jail, as are the other two... more than we could have hoped for back then....:ohwell:
Lin Crazy toilet flooding? YUCK!

Welcome to all newbies and hugs to all I missed, but it's off do the mat now for sure!

Barbara, the AHMOD who WILL be size 10 one day (Aging Hippie Mother Of Dogs)

August: EVERY DAY: 2 fruits + 7 veggies, 30 mins of any exercise, some mat work 5 days a week, average
10K steps, no more than 2 drinks Thurs-Sunday, PERIOD!!! Let it be. Really.
2012: dance more, bark less and CHECK IN!!!

matminutes: 5=0 4=0 3=0 2=0 1=0 ENOUGH. Just DO IT!!!
steps: 5=6859 4=5008 3=5673 2=8464 1=9848

carojrrn

Hello group!

This is my first post on fitness pal. I hope the motivation and support will help me with the challenges of a healthy lifestyle. I am 51 years young and my body is getting older with menopause and knee pain. I love to bike ride and have a treadmill in the basement so I do not have excuses. My August goals:

Log into fitness pal everyday
Exercise at least 20 mins 5 times a week
No snacking after 8 pm
Eat more fruits and veggies

Thanks for this forum. I look forward to the encouragement!

ruthanne54

Good Morning ladies! This is my first post. I just started on MFP last week. I love the tools and the accountability. I would love to be able to post some of your amazing weight losses as my own! Congratulations to you all for a tremendous job. You must feel so fnatastic to be at this point from 30 or 60 lbs. ago! Wow! How does that feel?

I didn't log any food on Sunday and after a bridal shower on Saturday, I didn't finish that day either. Being new to this, I'm hoping to find some support and good ideas from all of you who seem to really know what you're doing and obviously made a long-term committment to get healthier.

Thanks for taking a minute to read my intro and I hope to be sharing good things with all of you in the future! :flowerforyou:

amiscci

Good Morning ladies! This is my first post. I just started on MFP last week. I love the tools and the accountability. I would love to be able to post some of your amazing weight losses as my own! Congratulations to you all for a tremendous job. You must feel so fnatastic to be at this point from 30 or 60 lbs. ago! Wow! How does that feel?

I didn't log any food on Sunday and after a bridal shower on Saturday, I didn't finish that day either. Being new to this, I'm hoping to find some support and good ideas from all of you who seem to really know what you're doing and obviously made a long-term committment to get healthier.

Thanks for taking a minute to read my intro and I hope to be sharing good things with all of you in the future! :flowerforyou:

Welcome Ruthann! I found that I needed to log every bite as best I could every day-- even the bad days. I do recall skipping a day or two on vacation (didn't bring my computer) but I tried to eat well. There were a few days where I just threw caution to the wind and just ATE (check out my BBQ RIB dinner from a few days ago-- i think over 1000 cal in that meal alone, phew). I enjoyed that but knew my "piper" was gonna come calling and I logged. I find it important to keep the tally, and it gave me motivation to be better the next day and day after. I also bought a cheap scale and measuring cups and I weight/measure most of my food -- i found I really had to learn portion sizes (and how to tie them to calories).
Welcome!
Donna in NJ

Esther50

Hi everyone,
sorry to say, weekend was a bust,..... again! Saturday not too bad, but Sunday got worse.:explode:
But it is Monday and I am back on track. Much better choice for breakfast and lunch. Have lots of calories left for dinner and will still be going to the gym after work.

My sons girlfriend bought me a book, how to make cake pops. Now I got to figure out how to make them healthy. :flowerforyou:

Biggest challenge for me this week is my water intake. Never do good with water, but I am going to give it my best shot.:bigsmile:

Well got to get back to work.

Laura80111

Today was a really rough day. Had a phone call from the doctor and he has now assigned hospice to my husbands case. We still are to continue the 6 more treatments of radiation, but then no more. Hospice to take it from here. I have spent the better part of the day crying until my eyes are almost swollen shut. At one point, my husband asked if I had gotten all my food in for the day and I said I just didn't care about that struggle anymore. He told me that it was okay to feel my feelings, but he wants me to understand that food (the wrong choices) will not make the pain any easier to take and only cause me further disappointment if I gave up.
This from my wonderful husband who has 5-6 months and loves to eat and loves life, his first concern is that I not abuse myself with food because of the pain.
So stuck with my plan, and will stay the course one day at a time.
The positive note for the day was a lady I met at the radiation hospital yesterday, who was waiting for her husband, sent fresh blueberries from her farm and a lavender wand that she had made for myself and my husband and myself with a note of prayer. Out of so much sadness, there is a ray of sunshine.
Like jb said, in the 100's for her and here at the beach is still 87 degrees at 9:15 pm.
Thanks for listening. Daily life can be harsh, but staying the course does bring self appreciation.
Your all wonderful awesome woman, old and new to this thread. Let's all hang together and support anyone we can.
Although, Michelle, I have to say the ole green eye'd envy monster is lurking here when I read about your pool. Enjoy it for me as well.
Again, wonderful ladies stay the course. Hugs, Dixie

Dixie, Only taking a minute to try and catch up from the weekend came upon your Friday post. My heart goes out to you and your hubby:flowerforyou: {{{hugs}}} and prayers for the two of you.

Laura80111