Is Paleo the Answer?

bcattoes

That's because they contain saccheride compounds that are not digestible by humans. They also contain phytic acid which inhibits the aborbtion of minerals in the gut. This is the primary rational for eliminting them on a paleo diet. That and they are a food that was not available in the paleo era supposedly.

There are preparation tecniques that can minimize these effects. For example, soaking in water and slight solution of vinegar can leach out much of the phytates and help leach out some of the saccarides. Bottom line is occaisional intake is just fine

I don't "bash" the Paleo diet. But I will bash nonsense like this.

Because a food contains elements not digestible by humans does not make the food unheahlty Fiber, after all, is not digestible by humans.

Phytic acid (also found in many nuts and seeds) does inhibit absorption of some microtnutrients. There is also evidence that it may lower the incidence of colon cancer and protect against other inflammatory bowel diseases. It also inhibits temporarily the enzyme amylase and therefore the conversion of starch to sugar and the rise of the blood glucose level can be significantly suppressed.

Many healthy foods contain substances that inhibit absorption of necessary nutritients. Spinach, for example, contains oxalate which inhibits absorption of calcium.

Botton line is there is plenty of scientific evidence that legumes are healthy. And there are very few, if any, foods available now that were available in the paleolithic era.

And where did I say that they weren't? I'm neither defending nor "bashing" either legumes or a paleo diet. I was merely explaining why the poster I quoted said they got gas and why some advocates of a paleo exclude legumes. You might want to take a deep breath and settle your butt down there sparky.

My butt gets fat when I let it settle down!

Defren

I eat primal as I won't give up cheese, Greek yogurt and cream. My weight has plummeted, but I do home bake a lot and that doesn't help the calorie count - sadly. I don't have any milk at all, just cream. I am in the UK so perhaps the grass fed meat is easier to come by? I don't know, but all my fruit (berry's are the only fruit I eat) veg and meat is organic, and as I say my meat is grass fed,

I can't understand why Paleo/primal diets cause stress are rows. I am going to read all this thread and see if that shines any light on the issue. Surely eating what we feel is right for us is no cause for fights? I avoid wheat, grain, milk and carbs because I feel better doing that, what's the issue?

[edit to add] read all the thread now. I am not a paleo/primal zealot and I'm not going to tell you eating clean is best, I think we are all able to make up our own minds.

I choose not to eat anything processed, but I have no issue with those who do. Enjoy your food whichever path you choose to walk.

iwillwin1313

Before I started MFP, I was eating Primal (not paleo, due to my being an athlete and needing more calcium), I dropped 20 lbs. I felt awesome. Honestly, I can't see myself going back to eating so many carbs. On a hard workout day I'll make some low carb carrot cake or muffins or something, or eat some yams but that's it.
I've decided though I have 10ish more pounds to lose, so I came on MFP to help me with that.
All in all though, Primal/paleo is awesome. I feel so great.
On the topic of buying meat- my family buys it by the whole cow. We have a big freezer and put it in there. Almost every meal we pull out a new chunk of frozen meat.
My whole family's gone to Primal and we all feel great... Even my little 10 year old brother and his brattyness has gone down. No more blood sugar issues. Hope this helped a bit, any questions just ask. :P

dyannajoy

I eat primal as I won't give up cheese, Greek yogurt and cream. My weight has plummeted, but I do home bake a lot and that doesn't help the calorie count - sadly. I don't have any milk at all, just cream. I am in the UK so perhaps the grass fed meat is easier to come by? I don't know, but all my fruit (berry's are the only fruit I eat) veg and meat is organic, and as I say my meat is grass fed,

I can't understand why Paleo/primal diets cause stress are rows. I am going to read all this thread and see if that shines any light on the issue. Surely eating what we feel is right for us is no cause for fights? I avoid wheat, grain, milk and carbs because I feel better doing that, what's the issue?

[edit to add] read all the thread now. I am not a paleo/primal zealot and I'm not going to tell you eating clean is best, I think we are all able to make up our own minds.

I choose not to eat anything processed, but I have no issue with those who do. Enjoy your food whichever path you choose to walk.

yes and thank you!

LifeIsNotADressRehearsal

I think that whole point is to be healthy. Yes, people can lose weight eating the western diet, but it doesn't mean that they're healthy. I think that a traditional, whole foods diet is a better approach. I've done LC, paleo etc. and read all the info there is about it too. I've now introduced fermented foods into our diet to heal our guts.

I think we've lost the traditional way of preparing foods and this is a big issue (Have a google of Western A. Price Foundation).

I'm in for the "fermented foods"

I love fermented foods - specifically grapes - red ones :laugh:

mamagooskie

If the question is "What causes every thread to turn into a pissing match?" then yes, Paleo is the answer.

THIS!!

jennaworksout

I am new to paleo...3 weeks in. I am not a paleo nut and certainly do not think paleo is the only way to get fit. I can tell you it is working (fat loss, more energy, better sleep) for me, and it is really not difficult to stick with so far.

Ditto. About 5 weeks in and it's great. I loosely follow Primal www.marksdailyapple.com rather than purest Paleo.

Over time I eliminated pasta & rice. Massively reduced bread & cereal. Don't add sugar to stuff. Stay clear from processed foods. Heaps of lean protein, lots of veg (except potatoes) and some fruit, and I can honestly say I never felt better.

On this forum you will always have two camps of eaters, those who think clean eating matters and those who think that as long as you stay under your calorie limit, any **** goes.

You make up your own mind.

well said ^^^^^

I am 4 weeks in, and it works for me...thats all that matters, my acne gone, my anxiety & depression are gone...and I not treating my body like a garbage disposal anymore :bigsmile:

Madholm

If the question is "What causes every thread to turn into a pissing match?" then yes, Paleo is the answer.

Win.

Processed foods aren't great for you, but you also aren't going to see a united front claiming paleo is the key.

mmapags

I am new to paleo...3 weeks in. I am not a paleo nut and certainly do not think paleo is the only way to get fit. I can tell you it is working (fat loss, more energy, better sleep) for me, and it is really not difficult to stick with so far.

Ditto. About 5 weeks in and it's great. I loosely follow Primal www.marksdailyapple.com rather than purest Paleo.

Over time I eliminated pasta & rice. Massively reduced bread & cereal. Don't add sugar to stuff. Stay clear from processed foods. Heaps of lean protein, lots of veg (except potatoes) and some fruit, and I can honestly say I never felt better.

On this forum you will always have two camps of eaters, those who think clean eating matters and those who think that as long as you stay under your calorie limit, any **** goes.

You make up your own mind.

well said ^^^^^

I am 4 weeks in, and it works for me...thats all that matters, my acne gone, my anxiety & depression are gone...and I not treating my body like a garbage disposal anymore :bigsmile:

I don't agree about the 2 camps. There is a whole middle ground where people believe you can eat what you want as long as it fits in your macros. But it only stands to reason that if you are going to hit accurate macro targets you are going to have to be eating nutrient dense, healthy foods the majority of the time. If you indulge sometimes, it is not the end of the world. I think most have the common sense to understand that if you are not eating whole nutrient dense foods, you are not getting all the micronutrients neccesary for health. Even the Primal guy Mark Sisson subscribes to the 80% nutrient dense/ 20% whatever you want theory.

Battle lines often get drawn along the lines of "eating clean" (however that is defined) and IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros). IIFYM get positioned by oponents as " long as you stay under your calorie limit, any **** goes." That is just not accurate.

FredDoyle

Botton line is there is plenty of scientific evidence that legumes are healthy. And there are very few, if any, foods available now that were available in the paleolithic era.

Yes. This is my problem with so-called "Paleo". It's completely arbitrary. Some guy just made up a list.
All these veggies paleo adherents happily chomp down didn't exist back then. They've been husbanded.
I don't follow arbitrary logic. I do like to eat unprocessed foods as much as I can because they are healthier for my condition.

CRody44

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