alternate day fasting

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  • electraglide1808
    electraglide1808 Posts: 4
    I started this the morning. I'm planning on fasting on alternate days but on my fast days I will have 2 x complan drinks which basically total 500 calories. On my feed days I will stick to Weightwatchers which I've been doing for the last few months. Anyone have any experience of combining it with a diet?
  • schmoopy666
    schmoopy666 Posts: 5
    I found this thread after reading the book "1-Day Diet" by Jennifer Jolan. I never would have purchased the book, but I was able to borrow it from my Amazon.com Kindle library for free...if anyone is interested in reading it and has access to the library. Wasn't able to find forums dedicated to this particular diet, but it's basically "alternate day fasting" You have 9 protein waters a day, spaced 1.5 to 2.5 hours apart. I have no idea how many calories this is...she doesn't really talk about calories in the book. This is all you have for the entire day. Some "helpers" she recommends are: having your first 3 protein waters of the day in green tea, adding lemon juice and cinnamon, taking six 500mg capsules of L-Tyrosine with one of your first protein waters of the day (suppose to be a mood-enhancer). These "tips" are suppose to help with the hunger. An odd "tip" she recommends is chewing nicotine gum (1-2 mg) up to twice a day to help with the hunger. These "helpers" are just suggestions and they are all optional. I did my first day yesterday. It was NOT easy, but I was determined! Knowing I could eat the next day kept me going. I woke up this morning 5.5 lbs. down! Now I'm motivated to keep going! I think I'm going to do the fasting on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays...eating sensibly on the other days. So happy to find this forum! Love reading about your successes and suggestions! I will post again after about a week and let you know how it's going!
  • electraglide1808
    electraglide1808 Posts: 4
    Congratulations on starting. It'll be interesting to see how things go.
  • schmoopy666
    schmoopy666 Posts: 5
    I'm on my second fasting day...so far so good. Just got back from a 3 mile walk. I sat down and figured out the calories. The book suggests having 7-9 protein waters per day, using 10 grams of protein powder. The powder I'm using is pretty low in calories and high in protein. I figured 10 grams is only about 38 calories. If I have 8 per day...that's only 304 calories. Today actually seems a little easier than Wednesday's fast. I'm trying the nicotine gum. The book says that the small amount of nicotine (2mg) once or twice on the fasting days will not cause addiction. Right now I'm not hungry at all, so maybe it helps to curb the appetite a bit. This evening will be the real test for for me...when my husband is home and eating in front of me. I'm thinking about adding a couple cups of chicken broth a day when I really feel hungry. It would only be 15 calories for a cup and I think it might help any hunger or cravings in the evening. We shall see! I will report any weight loss tomorrow! What I like about the diet is that you can modify it to suit yourself!
  • CINDYRN33
    CINDYRN33 Posts: 148 Member
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  • schmoopy666
    schmoopy666 Posts: 5
    A little disappointed. After my 2nd fasting day I didn't lose anything! I guess I shouldn't complain because I lost 5.5 lbs. after my first day! I plan on eating sensibly today and tomorrow and will fast again on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Just wondering...from those of you with experience...is this normal? I guess I expected to lose a little because I've only just started the diet. I didn't cheat except to add a couple cups of chicken broth yesterday. I'm sure my total calorie intake was 400 calories or less.
  • Shakesy90
    Shakesy90 Posts: 13 Member
    So glad to have found this active thread :) I started the diet 3 weeks ago and have only lost 1.5kg. I am a little disappointed as i never ate anything on down days, only drank water...And on up days i rarely went over 2000. Could i be eating too little that i maybe should eat 500 cals on down days?
  • electraglide1808
    electraglide1808 Posts: 4
    I only started this 3 days ago but I'm using this calculator to work out my calories. Let us know how you get on.
    http://www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/html/how-to-do-the-diet.html
  • schmoopy666
    schmoopy666 Posts: 5
    Good Morning All! I just finished going back to the beginning and reading all the posts in this thread....which, I probably should have done even before I posted the first time! :wink: It's so interesting that there are many ways to do this and you can actually tailor it to your own lifestyle and preferences. I have only done two fasting days so far. I started after reading the book "1-Day Diet" by Jennifer Jolan. She has you drink protein water throughout the day and really doesn't even talk about calories. After buddying up with electraglide1, he told me to watch the "Eat, Fast and Live Longer" documentary....which I thought was fascinating! By the way, the YouTube link has been removed. Electraglide provided me with this link: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/110651/BBC_Horizon_2012_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/ My plan was to follow Jennifer Jolan's diet and fast Monday, Wednesday and Friday....doing the protein waters. However, I am now thinking about following electraglide's lead and eating one meal a day for those three days a week. My calorie intake will be determined using the calculator on Dr. Johnson's website. I was really missing my morning coffee on those fasting days, so I think I will allow myself coffee in the morning....which Dr. Johnson said is OK. I also plan to drink plenty of water and green tea. I think as long as there are zero calories, it's OK. Jennifer Jolan's book has you drinking protein water throughout the day....which, goes against the documentary's suggestion to limit protein. So maybe doing it this new way will give me more health benefits. I think my one meal on the fasting days will be the evening meal. Kind of sneaky...this way I won't have to tell my husband I'm fasting. He would just lecture me about how it's "not healthy"! LOL! Starting tomorrow! We'll see how it goes! The two days I fasted weren't easy...although I think the second was a bit easier than the first! The main thing I learned is what hunger really feels like. This has helped me on my non-fast days. I now eat to the point of being satisfied and don't overeat. Unless you are "truly" hungry...why eat?
  • schmoopy666
    schmoopy666 Posts: 5
    Down 8.5 lbs!!!!
  • tonyrocks922
    tonyrocks922 Posts: 172 Member
    Hi,

    Is this video available online anywhere (free or for purchase)? It looks like it has been removed from YouTube
  • electraglide1808
    electraglide1808 Posts: 4
    Hi,

    Is this video available online anywhere (free or for purchase)? It looks like it has been removed from YouTube

    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/110651/BBC_Horizon_2012_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/
  • time4healthyme
    time4healthyme Posts: 15
    bumpp
  • humbots
    humbots Posts: 12
    Good Morning Everyone
    I have been ADF for about two weeks and I wanted to share my weight loss process, and was hoping to others progress. I stared by reading the "1 day diet" from Amazon also and while doing research watch EAT, FAST, LIVE LONGER. I did the the 1 day diet for four days drinking only proteins waters every 2 hours, but that was HARD! so on my third fasting day I tried picking my own foods up to 500 cals, using mostly rich cakes (45 cal each and good sized), and I could get them salty or sweet. That was so much easier! I think for two reasons, one i didn't have to watch the clock for every two hours, I didn't have to eat until I really need it and I could take my mind off food or eatting all together. Anyway heres my results:
    Starting weight 273 lbs
    Day 1 - 1st fast (protein waters) next morning weighted in at 268 lost 5lbs mostly water weight
    Day 2 - Normal day next morning weighted in at 267 lost 1 lbs, eat totally normal!
    Day 3 - 2nd fast (protein waters) next morning weighted in at 265 lbs lost 2 lbs
    Day 4 - Thanksgiving next morning weight in 265 lbs
    Day 5 - Couldn't resist thanksgiving left overs so no fasting next morning weigh in 266
    Day 6, Day 7, Day 8 - no fasting, no dieting, no watching what I eat! weighted in at 270 the next morning gained 5 lbs
    Day 9 - Fast ( only 500 cal using rice cakes) next morning weight in 268 lbs lost 2 lbs
    Day 10 - Normal eating day, next morning weight in 268
    Day 11 - Fast (500 cal) next morning weight in 264 lost 4 lbs
    Day 12 - Normal eating , next morning weight in 264 1 lbs
    Day 13 - Fast (500 cal) , next morning weight in 263 lbs
    Day 14 - Fast (500 cal) , next morning weight in 263 lbs no lost
    Day 15 - Normal , next morning weight in 263 lbs
    Day 16 - Fast (500 cal) next morning weight in 262 , lost 1 lbs
    Day 17 - Normal, next morning weight in 262
    Day 18 - Fast (500 cal) , next morning weight in 261
    Day 19 - Normal, next morning weight in (This morning, today) 263 , gained 2 lbs

    I started to see a pattern after I dropped the all the water weight on the first two fasting days, it was about 1 lbs after a fasting day and not weight gain or lost on normal days. Yesterday was an exception because I don't normal work out at all, and I ended up dancing for 2 hours with my kids, so that kinda counts as a workout.
    I am going to keep going, but maybe I will stop weight myself every day, I just need to know that what I am doing is work, and it looks like it is. And at a good rate. in 18 days i went from 273 to 261 that's a total of 12 lbs.
    I plan on trying to do some form of exercise each day. I will keep everyone posted on my progress.
  • RawrWolfie
    RawrWolfie Posts: 64 Member
    i also reccomend alternate day fisting

    LMFAO!!
  • AmberAlicia82
    AmberAlicia82 Posts: 1
    I do fasting as well, and it seems to work well. I usually eat less calories M-F, about 600-900 calories a day, and I fast from 1pm to 1pm 2 days out of the week. I eat whatever I want on the weekends, and so far this seems to do the trick.
  • judychicken
    judychicken Posts: 937 Member
    bump
  • b1tz3r
    b1tz3r Posts: 1
    I'm still digging through all of the posts, but does anyone (still following this) have any experience/anecdotes about IF/ADF with keto?
  • humbots
    humbots Posts: 12
    I am still here and going strong!
  • lozzieemay
    lozzieemay Posts: 89
    I used to do something similar to alternate day fasting... I basically ate very low cals Monday to Friday, and would on average eat 900 cals a day.. then on weekends I'd eat what I wanted, literally anything & everything. I lost weight, a lot of it and very quickly - 4 stone in 4 months.

    Admittedly, it's now 12 months later and I've gained 6 stone. I soon lost some willpower and when Sunday was over I wouldn't get back to 'fasting' during the week, and so days off would spiral on and on, and here I am - 6 stone heavier.

    I'm torn between doing my old regime again, or just plain old calorie counting & sticking to a set limit of 1500 a day. I'm a very impatient person so I would like to lose the weight as quickly as possible, but I more than anything want to keep it off.. so it's a toughie.

    I could probably manage 500 calories, I think.. But how many days would I fast for & how many days off would I have?
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    after a 26 month plateau, I lost 11 pounds in the last 6 weeks thanks to AD-IF
  • alsaxon
    alsaxon Posts: 124 Member
    bumping
  • Aljos
    Aljos Posts: 63 Member
    I am doing the 5:2 fasting and it helped me break my plateau. After 2 weeks I have lost 2 lbs. I am eating 1000 calories on the fasting days and 1800 on regular days. Probably I will try to do 500 calories since most of you had success in doing it.
  • Jojo42
    Jojo42 Posts: 223
    Bump as I've just started today doing alternate day fasting. 500 cals on down days and up to 1500 on feast days.
  • Rumik
    Rumik Posts: 86 Member
    I'm starting this today too - I'm doing fasting 2 days, eating normally the rest. Has anyone had success with this variation? Planning to just eat dinner, so it doesn't impact my wife or daughter. Anyone else spending all the calories at once?
  • vanguardfitness
    vanguardfitness Posts: 720 Member
    I do. I can generally get about 1500 calories in about 15 minutes. To get 2000 it takes another hour or 2
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    definately not for me... my husband says i become evil when im hungry... i think he and the kids would leave me before the week was up... ill stick to my low cal diet with 2 refeed days a month!

    i do 1200 calories a day for 14 days
    then i have up to 100% over my maintenance calories, which is 4000 calories on the 15th day

    it averages out to 1386 calories a day, over the month...

    i designed this for myself, to fit my lifestyle, my personality, and my family... it works for me, thats whats important! ive lost a steady 2 pounds a week since september... went from 246 to 197 since september, and its still coming off!

    i like it because...

    1) i have learned to manage 1200 calories very well and have learned many ways to cook huge meals that are high in nutrient but low in calorie, and...

    2) i like that i can plan special events around those 2 days a month, and not have to worry about counting calories. if im craving something that i normally cant eat when trying to stay within my 1200 calories, then i wait until one of those 2 days, and have something to look forward to... i have 5 kids, and they do like to indulge, and its fun that i can still do it with them... so its just planning for me...

    so, while its not for me, if this alternate day fast works for any of you, more power to you! im excited to hear about everyones results! sounds very interesting, and while its definately not for me, im sure this will be perfect for others! good luck!
  • fivepence
    fivepence Posts: 33 Member
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  • Rumik
    Rumik Posts: 86 Member
    Can I ask any weight training experts out there whether I should be avoiding training on my fast days?
  • fivepence
    fivepence Posts: 33 Member
    I have been doing ADF for a few weeks now (not always religiously!) And I was wondering what everyone's opinion of eating back exercise calories on fast days was? Does that defeat the purpose of the fast and therefore it's health benefits or not? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated :)

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