Texas high school build $60 million football stadium.
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Texas is obsessed with football, which is fine. Which isn't fine is the fact that some of the best football high schools in the state also have some of the highest droppest rates, lowest college acceptance rates, and are just overall sh!tty.Not everyone is as academically stellar as yourself. In some of the schools you mentioned above, the ONLY thing keeping those kids in school is football.
Who is "they"?And from school, they go straight to jail. So, how is what you said a good thing?0 -
Do you have stats on this, or is this your opinion?Lol. DISD is primarily inner city? You do realize that would mean the "inner" has about a 50 mi. radius...right? And no, it's not the first round of grades that bench the players. It's juvenile detention.0 -
@rilke....you make a good point. the problem is no one cares. i wish it wasn't this way. the education system in texas is one of the worst in the country.
Must be saying something, as public education in general in the US is pretty much shot.
I have my masters degree in education and I'm pretty sure I want out. Unless I can get a job in a decent private school.
Start your own tutoring business for adults who dropped out of high school, but have realized what they gave up and are looking for a second chance. You probably won't get rich doing it, but it might be more satisfying than trying to teach someone who has no desire to learn. Just a thought.0 -
now im just turned on0
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Also, Allen has an awesome band program. They get to use it as well. And remember the people passed it, democracy in action!0
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This is one of many reasons why I pay for private school.
Talk about funny though - I pay THOUSANDS of dollars to my local school district that my kid doesn't benefit from, but when we inquired about her taking Chemistry at the local HS over the summer, they said no because she goes to private school. WTH? I pay my taxes. Why not?0 -
Those magical students you referred to who aren't as "academically stellar" as myself. I'm sorry, but using football as a reason to stay in school is a cop out. Getting decent grades in high school is absolutely NOT hard if you put in the time in effort. I had a whole menagerie of friends who came from absolutely horrible backgrounds (one was actually homeless), and they busted their *kitten* day in and day out to make the grade so that they could do something that no one ever thought they could...go to college. Did some of them play sports? Absolutely, so did I. But none of them, nor myself, ever let sports be the only motivating factor for staying in school. That's just ridiculous.Texas is obsessed with football, which is fine. Which isn't fine is the fact that some of the best football high schools in the state also have some of the highest droppest rates, lowest college acceptance rates, and are just overall sh!tty.Not everyone is as academically stellar as yourself. In some of the schools you mentioned above, the ONLY thing keeping those kids in school is football.
Who is "they"?And from school, they go straight to jail. So, how is what you said a good thing?0 -
Texas is obsessed with football, which is fine. Which isn't fine is the fact that some of the best football high schools in the state also have some of the highest droppest rates, lowest college acceptance rates, and are just overall sh!tty.
So not true....The Texas city that I live in has one of the top ranked football teams in the nation and is one of the top districts in the nation as well. Stereotyping is a bad thing...lol0 -
A LOT OF GRIPPING ON HERE.....
1. WHO REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE SYSTEM the whole truth not the half?
2. What is your SOLUTION?0 -
The only people who watch HS footbal games besides family and scouts are pedophiles. Fact. :indifferent:0
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Re read it again. Take note of the word some.Texas is obsessed with football, which is fine. Which isn't fine is the fact that some of the best football high schools in the state also have some of the highest droppest rates, lowest college acceptance rates, and are just overall sh!tty.
So not true....The Texas city that I live in has one of the top ranked football teams in the nation and is one of the top districts in the nation as well. Stereotyping is a bad thing...lol
Jumping to conclusions is a bad thing.0 -
The only people who watch HS footbal games besides family and scouts are pedophiles. Fact. :indifferent:
Maybe volleyball games but trust me, you know those guys that were something in HS when they played, they go. From 18-80.0 -
Those magical students you referred to who aren't as "academically stellar" as myself. I'm sorry, but using football as a reason to stay in school is a cop out. Getting decent grades in high school is absolutely NOT hard if you put in the time in effort. I had a whole menagerie of friends who came from absolutely horrible backgrounds (one was actually homeless), and they busted their *kitten* day in and day out to make the grade so that they could do something that no one ever thought they could...go to college. Did some of them play sports? Absolutely, so did I. But none of them, nor myself, ever let sports be the only motivating factor for staying in school. That's just ridiculous.
That's great for you and your friends. I just don't see why you have such a problem with football being what keeps some kids in school. Not everyone is cut out for college. Not everyone is going to be a National Merit Scholar. So what if all some kids have going for them is sports?0 -
OK I love Texas just as much as a Texan (and I mean it), but the article is ladled with that obnoxious "Texas pride." Maybe it was just the last couple sentences that irked me. I'm not saying everyone from Texas is snobby, its just how that article was written. You're proud of where you're from, I get it. I spent a lot of time in Texas and the people are nice (most of them), but some of their attitudes towards where they're from is downright insulting.
Anyway, it is true Texas loves their HS football...that stadium obviously shows it. They probably needed it. I don't agree to spend that amount of money on a HS stadium (top program or not). It could be spent on other things in the school like raising the teachers' salaries. However, if they have the will and $$$ to spend that amount on a stadium. I'm sure their classrooms are stellar. They can do as they please. I am not paying taxes there.0 -
And what happens when they (99.9% of the time) don't get drafted? Well, now they have nothing going on for them.Those magical students you referred to who aren't as "academically stellar" as myself. I'm sorry, but using football as a reason to stay in school is a cop out. Getting decent grades in high school is absolutely NOT hard if you put in the time in effort. I had a whole menagerie of friends who came from absolutely horrible backgrounds (one was actually homeless), and they busted their *kitten* day in and day out to make the grade so that they could do something that no one ever thought they could...go to college. Did some of them play sports? Absolutely, so did I. But none of them, nor myself, ever let sports be the only motivating factor for staying in school. That's just ridiculous.
That's great for you and your friends. I just don't see why you have such a problem with football being what keeps some kids in school. Not everyone is cut out for college. Not everyone is going to be a National Merit Scholar. So what if all some kids have going for them is sports?
I have absolutely NO problem with kids who love sports and devote the majority of their life to them. What I have a problem with is kids who use their status or their ability to learn as a cop out for having horrible grades. High school is not hard.
And no one said diddly about being a National Merit Scholar. I just expect kids to graduate.
Good to know your standards are far lower. If you're the majority, that explains the sh!tty state of the public school system.0 -
and lets be real...if you are in high school a cool football stadium is more enjoyable than a fine arts center.
Different strokes for different blokes...I spent more time in a fine arts center than i did on a football field and loved it. Football was merely a social experience, but I've never been uber interested in the game itself. If given a choice between tickets to the Super Bowl and tickets to Broadway, I'd take the Broadway tickets without a second thought.
As far as the OP, I say if the people voted in favor of it and they fill the place up and bring in revenue off it, all the power to them!0 -
That's the high school I went to growing up. It went from a very small town to a big booming town who loves football. The stadium is insane and can be seen miles away. To each his own. The seats will be filled. The old stadium was waaaay over crowded. They added bleachers everywhere you could. There are soooo many season ticket holders. My best friends family has been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and lots of other season ticket holders are the same.0
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The only people who watch HS footbal games besides family and scouts are pedophiles. Fact. :indifferent:
Maybe volleyball games but trust me, you know those guys that were something in HS when they played, they go. From 18-80.
$#!t... I gotta quit going to high school volleyball games.0 -
and lets be real...if you are in high school a cool football stadium is more enjoyable than a fine arts center.
Different strokes for different blokes...I spent more time in a fine arts center than i did on a football field and loved it. Football was merely a social experience, but I've never been uber interested in the game itself. If given a choice between tickets to the Super Bowl and tickets to Broadway, I'd take the Broadway tickets without a second thought.
As far as the OP, I say if the people voted in favor of it and they fill the place up and bring in revenue off it, all the power to them!
like i said above i know its not for everyone but for the vast majority its sports>fine arts as shown by attendance at both kind of events.
but with the success of Glee who knows what the next generation will be into.
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Between 2009 and 2011 we shot 161 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles into Lybia for the "no fly zone" for $225 million and they don't even have a score board for it.
That stadium looks like a bargain now....:drinker:0 -
And the tax payers did vote to pay for the stadium0
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That's the high school I went to growing up. It went from a very small town to a big booming town who loves football. The stadium is insane and can be seen miles away. To each his own. The seats will be filled. The old stadium was waaaay over crowded. They added bleachers everywhere you could. There are soooo many season ticket holders. My best friends family has been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and lots of other season ticket holders are the same.
WTH??? Hahahha, season tickets!! Wow. I am amazed. I'm from a tiny town so the thought of season tickets for HS blows my mind.0 -
What??? I never said anything about them expecting to go on to play college ball or the NFL. It helps get them a high school diploma. To me, that's better than dropping out. If football keeps them in school, GREAT!And what happens when they (99.9% of the time) don't get drafted? Well, now they have nothing going on for them.
Perhaps you're looking at it the wrong way. Did you ever think that maybe it's not a cop out and maybe they really can't do the work? High school may not be that hard for you, but I'm guessing you can read and write since you're on here.I have absolutely NO problem with kids who love sports and devote the majority of their life to them. What I have a problem with is kids who use their status or their ability to learn as a cop out for having horrible grades. High school is not hard.
And my point from the beginning is that football programs help keep some kids in school, meaning they graduate.And no one said diddly about being a National Merit Scholar. I just expect kids to graduate.
Actually, I work at a Jesuit school. I'm guessing because of the way you're replying here that you're familiar with Dallas Jesuit. I do not have lower standards for anyone. But, I do know that not everyone is cut out for college and I know for a fact some kids stay in school because of football. So, again, I'm not sure why that bothers you so much.Good to know your standards are far lower. If you're the majority, that explains the sh!tty state of the public school system.0 -
That's the high school I went to growing up. It went from a very small town to a big booming town who loves football. The stadium is insane and can be seen miles away. To each his own. The seats will be filled. The old stadium was waaaay over crowded. They added bleachers everywhere you could. There are soooo many season ticket holders. My best friends family has been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and lots of other season ticket holders are the same.
WTH??? Hahahha, season tickets!! Wow. I am amazed. I'm from a tiny town so the thought of season tickets for HS blows my mind.
Yes ma'am. The season ticket holder section at the last game I went to in Allen took up an entire side of the field. There were bleachers at each end zone on the visitor side and in every corner.0 -
That's the high school I went to growing up. It went from a very small town to a big booming town who loves football. The stadium is insane and can be seen miles away. To each his own. The seats will be filled. The old stadium was waaaay over crowded. They added bleachers everywhere you could. There are soooo many season ticket holders. My best friends family has been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and lots of other season ticket holders are the same.
WTH??? Hahahha, season tickets!! Wow. I am amazed. I'm from a tiny town so the thought of season tickets for HS blows my mind.
Yes ma'am. The season ticket holder section at the last game I went to in Allen took up an entire side of the field. There were bleachers at each end zone on the visitor side and in every corner.
My hs has season tickets also. You aren't ANYBODY if you don't have them.
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Re read it again. Take note of the word some.Texas is obsessed with football, which is fine. Which isn't fine is the fact that some of the best football high schools in the state also have some of the highest droppest rates, lowest college acceptance rates, and are just overall sh!tty.
So not true....The Texas city that I live in has one of the top ranked football teams in the nation and is one of the top districts in the nation as well. Stereotyping is a bad thing...lol
Jumping to conclusions is a bad thing.
I just got served.....:sad:0 -
Meh. According to The Houston Chronicle: "In Katy ISD, four of seven high schools drew recognition: Cinco Ranch (No. 580), Seven Lakes (No. 615), Taylor (No. 984) and Morton Ranch (No. 1,645)." Dallas had the number 1 and number 3 schools in the nation.So not true....The Texas city that I live in has one of the top ranked football teams in the nation and is one of the top districts in the nation as well. Stereotyping is a bad thing...lol
http://blog.chron.com/k12zone/2012/05/houston-schools-rank-well-nationally/0 -
@rilke....you make a good point. the problem is no one cares. i wish it wasn't this way. the education system in texas is one of the worst in the country.
Must be saying something, as public education in general in the US is pretty much shot.
I have my masters degree in education and I'm pretty sure I want out. Unless I can get a job in a decent private school.
All the teachers I know are looking into other careers. One just transferred to a different district out of fear. It is very rough where she was, in fact, two of her students were just involved in a murder. They have a great football team though. One of the security guards is quitting due to violence.
The town I live in have one of the nicest stadiums in the state. It hasn't been long since my children attended that school. They didn't bring many books home and didn't have a lot of homework. I asked a few teachers why they were not allowed to brings some of the books home. There are not enough for each student so many classes have to keep the books in the classroom.
I just don't think that much money should go into sports if they can't afford books. I have also noticed the school supply list for younger grades now includes copy paper and other items not included in previous years. If the schools can't afford books and basic supplies they shouldn't spend so much money on sports.0 -
But aren't the tax payers paying for the stadium and not the school district?I just don't think that much money should go into sports if they can't afford books. I have also noticed the school supply list for younger grades now includes copy paper and other items not included in previous years. If the schools can't afford books and basic supplies they shouldn't spend so much money on sports.0 -
Nice stadium!0
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